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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 17:08:53 GMT
Track pins also have the advantage of being more durable if the layout is to be portable. That having been said, I asked the Editor of 'Hornby' magazine about his 'Bay Street' layout and he told me that they had never had any trouble with the Peco ones. Of course, the above luxuries are one of the prerks of doing OO. The above pictures are an achievemet and a half in N!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 17:36:42 GMT
For 00 either glue the 4th rail to the sleepers as most people won't notice or mount it on small thin washers.
Your best guage for clearance is a Hornby 08 Shunter or a Bachmann Class 40 as they both have a bulge on their base-plates to accommodate the drive gears.
Secure all 3rd & 4th rail well (superglue the plastic insulators into the hole in the sleeper and onto the conductor rail) especially if you going to move the layout a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 18:05:45 GMT
"Many modern RTR trains have low bogies that foul the centre rail, by Chiltern 168 is one example!"
Had this problem with the Hornby 466 until I changed the coupling arrangement. I have spent a reasonable part of my life laying 3rd and 4th rail on finescale track and you Mr. Burkitt have got it just right. This does not even look like N scale. Great job!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 21:10:49 GMT
Thanks all. It's not just OO stock that fouls the centre rail, the Kato Portram bogie I'm using for my N scale 95 stock was also left hovering above the running rails on my first attempt. I actually had to grind the bottom off the centre rail with a Dremel to get it low enough to allow the bogie to maintain electrical contact with the track. Over the last week I've spent most of my modelling time putting the textures for the station platforms and building together in Photoshop. Having finally got them completed, today I started assembling everything. So far I've put some of the southbound platform together, it's a fairly speedy process of sticking the printout to mounting board, cutting it out and gluing in place. The textures are from Scalescenes, edited in Photoshop. Posters were gathered from around the internet. The official London Underground sign positioning guide has been of great help in getting the model as accurate as possible. It is available to download at www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/12523.aspx along with others for all sorts of other aspects of Underground, Overground, DLR, buses etc deign. The movie posters help set the date of the model in the present day - this summer in fact. Once the shelter roof is on this lot will be a bit harder to see so it was worth getting some photos now. Paul
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Post by The Tram Man on Sept 26, 2011 16:24:40 GMT
Beautiful. Honestly, that looks very realistic.
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Post by alfie on Sept 26, 2011 16:27:21 GMT
Isn't the station above ground? If so, why brick..?
Ah - shelter roof.I see. Whoops.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 17:20:16 GMT
I always enjoy these modelling threads and this one is no exception. It took my mind off the busted ribs for a fair few minutes. Thanks for that and very, very well done..........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 18:04:02 GMT
Thanks everyone. Here's the southbound platform roof in place. The clerestory windows are clear styrene, with the frames drawn on using a white pen. Paul
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Post by alfie on Sept 26, 2011 18:43:57 GMT
I can see the ticket office in the second photo I must admit roofs on overground stations aren't my favourite thing ever..but these look brilliant! Is the one in the foreground supposed to look a little worn?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2011 11:53:43 GMT
That is truly superb! I keep having to remind myself that it is 2mm scale! In this scale the centre rail should be a quarter of a milimetre above the running rails so, if you have it level, I'm sure that no-one will notice!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 12:59:20 GMT
SICK!!!
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Post by SE13 on Sept 28, 2011 14:36:49 GMT
I presume the word is an Americanism meaning "great" - Can't say it's one we use over here aside from the wannabe rappers!
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Post by castlebar on Sept 28, 2011 15:24:45 GMT
We are not in America. Over here, it means exactly what it says. Perhaps Newyorker might wish to explain or self-edit?
Sorry, but I am of the generation that finds such a comment about other people's work is offensive.
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Post by alfie on Sept 28, 2011 15:38:36 GMT
Americanism indeed, not just wannabe rappers, it's all wannabe Americans..
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Post by Chris W on Sept 28, 2011 16:08:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 16:28:29 GMT
I suppose such use of "sick" is similar to certain rail enthusiasts use of "dreadful". I'll certainly take it as a compliment. Alfie and Glyn, thanks for your comments too. The roof does look a little worn, I'm aiming for a lightly weathered but well cared for appearance, in keeping with real tube stations of a similar period. The northbound platform is now done, with the booking hall and shops still to do. This platform is to accurate scale width, whereas the southbound one is slightly narrowed under the shelter to fit in the permitted area. I need to make a few benches to put either side of the platform roundels. The spacing of roundels and posters is based on West Kensington. Paul
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Post by The Tram Man on Sept 28, 2011 19:19:08 GMT
Not bad for a station that never existed. Looks great.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 21:18:25 GMT
I suppose such use of "sick" is similar to certain rail enthusiasts use of "dreadful". LMAO!!! I was under the impression that "sick" meant "last night's curry revisited" but then again I'm far too cynical to take pseudo rappers, real rappers or anybody who finds it clever to state the exact opposite of what they really mean seriously. However, in a pathetic attempt to sound cool and with it etc. etc. and in order for certain members of the younger generation to understand me, I find your hours of endeavour and accuracy "total pants". There, a higher compliment is impossible to levy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2011 19:50:56 GMT
Thanks Tram Man and Whistlekiller. Here's the staircase up to the northbound platform. It just needs the windows and roof adding now. The flower shop and staircase as seen from the southbound side of the booking hall. I've put a simple interior into the florist, as it is fairly prominent, with large windows onto the street and into the station interior. Paul
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Post by alfie on Sept 30, 2011 20:09:39 GMT
THAT's what that hole in the back of the Northbound was for! Love the detail you've put into the florist and that interior shot..
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Post by Phil on Sept 30, 2011 21:39:27 GMT
LMAO!!! I was under the impression that "sick" meant "last night's curry revisited" but then again I'm far too cynical to take pseudo rappers, real rappers or anybody who finds it clever to state the exact opposite of what they really mean seriously. You won't be the first and it's no new thing anyway. I remember nearly 30 years ago when my pupils started calling things "really bad" and only later finding out they meant "brilliant"!!!!! I far prefer that sort of rebellion against the establishment to beating up old ladies or getting stoned and abusive.
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Post by The Tram Man on Sept 30, 2011 22:43:21 GMT
Simple but effective interior. And i like the floor in the flower shop.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2011 14:53:25 GMT
Burkitt, that is a really cool layout you got there. Can't wait to see it when you're finished
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Post by SE13 on Oct 1, 2011 18:46:04 GMT
The attention to detail is stunning especially given the size.
The Christmas meet is looming, I wonder if you can attend and maybe bring some of this to show us.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2011 22:17:33 GMT
This model just gets better and better! The attention to detail is incredible. For me, the sign of a good layout is one where there is plenty to look at even without trains running. Once again, superb work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 15:48:18 GMT
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Post by alfie on Oct 4, 2011 15:57:56 GMT
Almost done then!! After you enter it into the competition I think you should do Egware to Aldenham Depot..
by the way, the map on the nothbound looks like it only goes one stop..?
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 4, 2011 19:12:55 GMT
Not bad. Not bad at all. What are you planning to do under the bridge? Got any funny scenes planned?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 4, 2011 19:13:17 GMT
the map on the nothbound looks like it only goes one stop..? It does look like that in that picture, but the larger picture of that map (post #33) shows two further stops, as you would expect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 10:09:51 GMT
This layout of yours shows up one major problem. Just how are the rest of us supposed to match it! Those pictures taken outside in natural light work really well. Sun through the canopy and all that. Utterly brilliant! Should you bring it to the Christmas meet make sure it's well protected from flying pieces of chocolate dessert.... ;D
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