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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 8:29:46 GMT
Hmm, you could probably make alot of money by making affordable 00 guage tubes, especially with stock that isnt 38ts and 59ts all the time like EFE.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 18:21:34 GMT
Following several more coats of paint and lots of sanding I thought I'd post another couple of pics to show how the 95 stock is getting on. The rough surface of the printed plastic seems to have been mostly smoothed out by the paint and sanding. Luckily the details have not got lost under the paint, despite being only 0.1mm deep. The ends still look a bit rougher, but since the front will be painted red getting the white perfect is not so important as for the sides. I have also decided to build a diorama to display the model once it is finished. Watching the interesting and also rather funny Unfinished London video about the unbuilt Northern Heights extension to the London Underground Northern Line on Youtube, my eye had been caught by the visualisation of Brockley Hill station, with the platforms on an arched viaduct and a sweeping curve of shops adjoining the station building. Here's the Northern Heights video - the image of Brockley Hill is at 3:05 I thought the station would make a good subject for a diorama, with the viaduct allowing more prominent display of the trains than is possible in a cut-away tunnel or at ground level. My idea is to depict it as it might appear in the present day, so as to provide a home for the 1995 stock. Though there are almost no further details of the station on line, the subject is well covered in Tony Beard's By Tube Beyond Edgeware, which includes several plans of the area and station buildings, and a double-page version of the visualisation which originally attracted me. To get a feel for the area and see what is left of the never-completed structure, I paid a visit to the intended site of the station. The station site is now used to hold boot fairs on Sundays - not the day of my visit so I was able to get a good look around free of obstruction. Almost the only remnants of the unfinished station are the stumps of the viaduct piers. When work stopped the arches between them had been completed, though the viaduct was never built up to track level. At some point the structure was partially demolished, presumably for safety reasons. Even on the edge of the countryside, with rolling green fields over the fence, the stumps have been comprehensively covered in graffiti. It is interesting to note that while By Tube Beyond Edgeware states that yellow bricks were to be used for all structures on the new line, the viaduct is clearly built from red brick. On the Watford bypass is the only other evidence of the station, the lay-by for the bus stop that will be at the front of the model. Other bus stops would have been provided on the service road in front of the station. Over the other side of the roundabout, this huge new development is under construction, suggesting that had the Northern Line got this far it would have had plenty of passengers even with the green belt in place. I plan to enter the model in the Model Rail Magazine / RMweb 2011 Challenge, which has a size limit of 20 by 11 inches. To work out the best way to fit the station into the available space, I have created a Sketchup model of my design. Clearly modelling the whole thing would be impossible (it was intended to be 9 cars long), but I think I have managed, with a bit of compression, to include the most distinctive features of the design - the booking hall, the curved parade of shops, and the arched viaduct carrying the platforms. The booking hall and shops are to the left, with the platforms running along the rear of the available space. To the right is a section of the Watford Bypass, with the bus stop which was constructed before the extension was cancelled and still exists today. Though the booking hall is accurately scaled, I have shortened the curved parade of shops and reduced the number of arches beneath the platforms from seven to four. I don't think this degree of compression should affect the appearance of the model too much. The baseboard is a simple foamboard box- This photo shows it before I put the top on, with the reinforcement to prevent warping visible inside. Over the foamboard top I stuck a layer of mount board to provide a stronger, more damage resistant surface. I printed out and glued down an outline plan of the module layout to provide a guild for positioning the texture printouts. I have been very impressed by the appearance of the Scalescenes downloadable textures, so I will be making use of for many of the surfaces in the model. I will be printing them on waterproof paper which will hopefully be more resilient to minor splashes which can ruin an inket-printed paper surface. It is also supposed to be fade resistant and is less likely to tear. I have added about 10mm of texture outside the edges of the road, under where the pavement will go, to allow for any inaccuracies in printing, cutting, gluing etc the upper layer. Next step will be to print out the pavement textures and add them. I have also had a play with a tube map in Photoshop to show how it might look today with the Northern Heights extension. It needs a bit of editing to correct the duplicate Essex Road. With the Edgeware-Finchley line, the route into Moorgate and the Ally Pally branch, the Northern Line is even more sprawling and complex than in reality. Possibly it would have been split up at some point since the thirties, but I'm not about to start inventing whole new tube lines. Paul
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Post by Chris W on Sept 2, 2011 19:26:01 GMT
Very very impressive.... Too much time on you're hands maybe
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 18:24:35 GMT
Thanks Chris. I'm not sure this update will improve your opinion of me... Before finishing the viaduct I have detailed the booking hall, as it will become inaccessible once the top goes on. Like the roads, I designed the surface textures in Photoshop and printed them onto waterproof paper. I then cut them out and glued them to the walls. The passimeter (booth in the middle) was folded up and glazed. I also made the ticket gates from styrene, and added some etched brass fencing keep the cattle/commuters in the right place. The line maps are not really readable when they are this small, but they do show the sprawling extended Northern Line. All this will become tricky to get at once the viaduct top is on, but it will be quite visible through the station doors so I thought it was worth doing. Paul
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Post by alfie on Sept 13, 2011 19:35:19 GMT
[Teenage girls voice]
Oh my gosh that looks so so amazing aaaaahh! Make the rest of the Northern Heights pweeeease!
[/Teenage girls voice]
You are very very good at this..! Might have a go when I get some money.
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 13, 2011 20:22:12 GMT
At the end of the SB platform as modelled you will need to provide a four-aspect signal [G/R over suppressed G/Y] if you assume that the signalling was not modernised in 1972/3 (or even 1967/8 - although 1972/3 is more plausible).
Between 1972/3 and June 1998 it would be a single 'X' signal [R/G] after 1998 it would be a simple 'A' signal.
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Post by ducatisti on Sept 14, 2011 8:28:27 GMT
Lovely work
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Post by The Tram Man on Sept 14, 2011 14:16:34 GMT
Interesting build. It looks good so far.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2011 19:56:34 GMT
mrfs42, thanks for the info on signals, they weren't something I'd even thought about until you mentioned them. The model will depict the station as it would appear in the present day, so an "A" signal would be appropriate. I have had a look through the LU signalling guides on the DD site and Tubeprune, but I'm not sure exactly what the A type signal should look like. Could you possibly point me towards a photo of the sort I should be modelling? I wasn't originally planning to fit lights, but having put so much detail in decided to add some. I have fitted two grain-of-wheat bulbs in the ceiling of the booking hall. Here's a view of the interior with the lights on, they're only connected to a 9V battery at the moment, it should be a bit brighter with the full 12V the bulbs can take. I have also laid the track along the top of the viaduct. It's Peco code 55, stuck down with superglue. I'll add the conductor rails after ballasting. Paul
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 15, 2011 1:19:47 GMT
Could you possibly point me towards a photo of the sort I should be modelling? Try here, probably without the rail gap indicator (but I can check on that) and the white plate reading 'PK 21' would read 'A digitdigitdigit'. Might be able to give you the most likely number if you want.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2011 19:51:21 GMT
Many thanks for that mrfs42. If you could suggest a likely number for the signal that would be great.
Paul
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 15, 2011 23:07:14 GMT
The line maps are not really readable when they are this small, but they do show the sprawling extended Northern Line. Fantastic attention to detail! Just a thought though ..... Should a line diagram at Bushey Hill show the High Barnet branch, since it can't be reached without changing? Usually other branches are shown as an interchaneg at the junction (East Finchley in this case) I'm fairly sure the City branch isn't shown on CX branch stations.
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 16, 2011 11:33:19 GMT
Many thanks for that mrfs42. If you could suggest a likely number for the signal that would be great. A 449 - one different from the earlier era. Signalling afficionados will understand the curious nature of the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 16:36:54 GMT
What adhesive do you use to stick the foamboard bits together? Fantastic work by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2011 20:20:44 GMT
Norbitonflyer, thanks for your thoughts on the line maps, as when I had another look at them I realised I had missed East Finchley off altogether. Not a problem for the tiny one in the booking hall, but it might show up on the larger platform version so I'm glad to have corrected it. As to not showing parts of the Northern Line where you need to change trains, it's a good point but I think I'll exercise some modeller's license and leave them on, just to show the extent of the line had Northern Heights gone ahead. mrfs42, thank you very much for your advice on signalling. A lot of the fun of modelling a hypothetical station is working out the details from the available information. Glyn, I use UHU to stick large bits of foamboard together, and viscous superglue for smaller pieces and when I want them to stick fast. Today I ballasted the track, using the traditional method of laying the ballast first, then adding diluted PVA with a drop of Fairy liquid. The ballast is chinchilla sand, which I used partly because it is very fine, much closer to prototypical size than most commercial stuff, and also because having kept chinchillas for the past fourteen years I had plenty available without having to part with any cash. Once it's dry I'll paint it to make the colour more realistic, then I can add the conductor rails. Paul
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Post by metman on Sept 17, 2011 9:12:50 GMT
Looks good, keep going sir. I hate ballasting!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 20:09:15 GMT
Thanks metman. By this morning the PVA had dried and the ballast was nice and solid. It was also a bit lighter than while the glue was still wet. So, time to get out my collection of brown paints: I seem to have accumulated quite a few over the years. A selection of them were applied to the ballast, watered down with plenty of white spirit. I'm aiming for the overall dark brown colour of old ballast, which seems to be typical of the remaining wooden sleepered track on the tube. Finally, while waiting for paint to dry, I put together some signs for the shops in front of the station, shown here on the Sketchup model. Esquire's Barber Shop can be found in real life at Stanmore station about a mile away from Brockley Hill. Erika, the florist and greengrocer, is based on one of the same name on my Grandad's model railway. Paul
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Post by alfie on Sept 17, 2011 21:01:19 GMT
Only way this could be better is if all the parts were moving and playing music..
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Post by The Tram Man on Sept 17, 2011 21:02:40 GMT
Wow! Great job on that ballast, my friend.
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Post by metman on Sept 18, 2011 23:04:33 GMT
Mmmm, Subway.... Ballast looking great
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 8:32:31 GMT
Looking superb. Put a KFC in that arcade and it'll be perfect! I have been looking for odd shop names to steal when I finally come to do mine. I once saw a barbers in Leeds called 'Scissors Palace'! The chip shop in the excellent film 'Brassed Off' was called 'In Cod We Trust'.
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Post by slugabed on Sept 19, 2011 13:03:49 GMT
....I like the second-hand furniture shop...."Junk and Disorderly"
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Post by castlebar on Sept 19, 2011 13:14:25 GMT
There was once a fruit and veg shop in Worthing called > > >"Melon Cauli" (How sad is that?), and a driving school in Southall called "IMPACT Scool of Motoring"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 17:03:27 GMT
Thanks all. I've now got the conductor rails laid. They are made from Z scale rails, attached to track pins which represent the insulator pots. Paul
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Post by alfie on Sept 19, 2011 18:00:44 GMT
mmmm. finished product is gonna look as you wouldn't expect definitely!
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Post by metroland on Sept 19, 2011 18:38:51 GMT
Unusual to see 4 rail track in N scale and looks like you've done a good job there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 22:54:49 GMT
Top job! My modelling fingers are starting to itch again!
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Post by The Tram Man on Sept 20, 2011 14:13:35 GMT
Beautiful. It really is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 14:51:59 GMT
I'm very impressed by the amount of detail going in, especially the fact its in N scale too!
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Post by metman on Sept 20, 2011 21:30:31 GMT
I was thinking of using track pins as insulator pots for bits of my 00 gauge layout. Many modern RTR trains have low bogies that foul the centre rail, by Chiltern 168 is one example!
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