No more Olympia service

This seems to imply that there is a regular Earls Court - High Street Kensington shuttle service (with D stock) when the Olympia service isn't running.

Looking at the new District D stock map, I wonder why the whole of the Edgware Road branch is not shown. I know that D stock is not allowed beyond High Street Kensington, but what we have now is not easy to understand when compared with a tube map in a passenger's hand.
When the 1960 and 1967 stock was used solely between Hainault and Woodford, the line diagrams were the general Central line ones, not ones just showing the shuttle to which the ATO stock was restricted.

little offtopic, but anyhow; Edgware Road bays need to be lengthened to fit the S7. The S7 is much longer than the D78. Will Edgware Road be able, at some point, to fit the D78, or is it already able to?

Since the purpose of the car diagrams is to help passangers follow the progress of the train they are on, there is little point in showing Edgware Road on a train that can't go there. In the same way I don't think A stock diagrams ever showed the Hammersmith line.

The 1960/67 stock was probably too small a fleet to justify a separate set of car maps.

The standard UndergrounD map for some years also looped the District Line about Earls Court so as to show no possibility of a through service from West Kensington to High Street Kensington. During the staff consultation/ feedback about the map that omitted the Thames, I wrote to suggest the lines should be reworked to show the West Ken - High Street possibility as enough trains did that, both scheduled and during disruption, to justify it. Much to my surprise, I received an e-mail saying they agreed and it would be incorporated in the next revision, which indeed it was, that became the same layout as today's map. I'm just a touch surprised the in car line diagram was never changed in the same way (perhaps it had been forgotten by the time it was next up for a reprint, or perhaps different people do the line diagrams).

Whilst I follow Edgware Road not being on the D stock Diagram, I have seen enough people looking for it and Paddington and such like on there, thoroughly confused, sure it's on the District Line but unable to work out where or what to do. I don't think there is another line diagram that doesn't show the whole line! In fact i think showing the Circle and H&C on there would also be a bonus given their close connection. The CO and CP stock (and possibly R stock) diagrams whilst showing the District and Circle also showed the Metropolitan (H&C) just between Liverpool Street and Aldgate East, just to make clear that useful link existed.

As mentioned before, A Stock ran to Barking Sidings in connection with training on the ELL, but obviously not in service to the station as has just been said.

Pre-D stocks, did any District trains have car maps with just their line?

Its tricky on the D stock diagrams because, as implied, there is a regular frequent service under District line branding between HSK and EC, but the D stock doesn't provide it.

I wonder if, instead of the HSK-EC-Oly shuttle being shown as a seperate interchanging route on the D stock line maps it could just be connected at EC with the rest of the line (ie, just moved down a bit). At least that way Oly's dashed line wouldn't look like an odd appendage to an implied regular D stock shuttle between EC and HSK?

Indeed it does, which isn't much help to the people looking at a map of the District Line expecting to find a District Line station that isn't on there!

It would take minimal effort to add the Edgware Road branch after all the map infers it's a map of the District line not a map of where that particular train might go!



Well they still do and it's not on there now!!

Its an inherent problem with lines composed of many 'services'. The easiest way to deal with it would be a soft brand change to the service (or group of) that is most different to the others. Recolouring the Wimbleware service though seems to have little support!

I do apologise it this has already been discussed in this thread but I did a quick search and couldn't find it. Just shout at me and direct me in the correct direction if it has already been discussed.
I read on Wikipedia that Olympia still receives one District Line train a day Mondays to Fridays due to a certain railway law of having to provide a service a long that route. Is this true and if so what time does it arrive at Olympia and does it return to HSK in public service?

kabsonline

I had already posted the times further up this thread, there are morning passenger runs from Olympia, and 2 evening trips:

6 passenger train departures each day M-F:
05.50 (C to ERd)
Then the description "about every 8-9 minutes" between 6am-7am is stretching it a bit, with actual departures at:
06.06 (D to HSt)
06.15 (D to HSt)
06.24 (D to HSt)
06.32 (C to ERd), with nothing then until
19.58 (D to HSt)
20.38 (D to HSt)

Just 2 passenger arrivals each day M-F:
19.48 (D ex-HSt)
20.28 (D ex-Hst)


If an Event required trains to operate M-F then only an approximate 30min service would be provided (to High Street unless annotated) at:
10.28, 10.58, 11.28, 11.58, 12.28, 12.58, 13.28, 13.58, 14.28, 14.58, 15.28, 15.58, 16.33u, 16.49, 17.23e, 17.50, 18.23e, 18.55, 19.23e, 19.58, 20.18, 20.58, 21.28, 21.58, 22.28, 23.00.
u= to Upminster
e= to Edgware Road

Some of these trips are the result of cancelling Wimbledon trains.

If only one service a week is required to comply with the law, well then that is already well covered by the full weekend service which still operates.....

Is the Saturday service to Olympia worked by C or D stock?