A Stock withdrawals - Discussion

I'm afriad I have to agree. It is also easier to run a bus than a train.

It's a cracking idea though. If I win the Euromillions I will try and get hold of one. If it was 5112 or maybe 5189 that would be ace. With millions behind me I could even convert 5188/9 to a silver look with a working cab at both ends and crew control. There's just that 'if' part......

Exactly, I remember late 1999 on the Northern Line of vociferous complaints in the leading car from the so called city gents who were 'unfortunate' to get on a rare train of 1959 stock. ;D

Yet the drivers cried! ;D

Think you're right. Sadly in a few years the same people will be moaning again! That's all commuters do - Moan!

I think to myself when I see an S Stock, "They're not as wretchid as feared they would be." But on an A Stock at speed, it is incredibly difficult to hear someone else on the phone - and the ride quality was comparable to a raging bull ride at a fairground. But it was their character and the fact that I grew up with them for some time that makes me love them - but I do accept that the end is nigh, and the claw will have a few left to mangle yet.

5112 has been photographed "stored" at bowroaduk's photostream at acton.

www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/7693224760/in/photostream/

Doubt it. Perhaps some of the Reavell compressors from the A62s as many of the other rolling stocks use them.

I hear some triple valves are going to a good home.

Mobile phones issue aside, where in his comments did he refer to the A stock as rubbish?

I think of it as being a testament to a train manufacturer, whose last product was the Class 311 of 1967 - LU must have had great faith in them to let them operate for 45 years after their manufacturer went out of business, let alone to refurbish them. I imagine that the S Stock will be around for 25-30 years, but little more than that.

People lamented the T Stock's departure and I know they aren't lamenting the A Stock's demise.
Likewise, many of us will not lament the S Stock's departure in the same way we did for the A Stock.
But for most people, a train's demise goes without sentiment, to them it is just a train getting older and scruffier, and in need of replacement. Much as my boney posterior may ache as a result of the S Stock, I can accept that the A Stock could become a problem in the near future, not to mention the increasing expense of mainting an aged fleet. Let's hope that our economy can be kept going on the sellotape that is 3M.

I'm with you 100% on that one. How about making all leading cars a 'quiet zone' policed by the the t/op.

it may be because there's such a large time gap between these two trains that modern manufacturing has shown its downfalls when well thought basic requirements meet technological change not always for the better.

i apologise to a60 if the comments were misunderstood it was not directed at what he said,i was thinking of the time these have been running.mobile phones are prone to cutting off on experience on this line in the hill areas of this line.

There is that, it seems as if they want you to listen to, "Oh, Shelley got plastered last night," on a continuous loop. Still happens in the east (where we now have ex-Virgin Mk3 stock), so uncouth is their behaviour that they speak and eat at the same time. Perhaps it would be of benefit if the S Stock came with an announcement, "You on the mobile phone, everybody has now heard of Shelley getting drunk, and they would like you to shut up," and it would have my full support. By the way, no apologies required to me

There is the deadman's handle,as you mention. There are things like the brake handle, switch panels, speedometer, destination blinds. Sadly, the guard's panels went with the 1990s refurb. I would thought things like the deadman with it's controller desk would be collectable and even the 1980s era OPO headlight unit.