A Stock withdrawals - Discussion

Looks like 5134+5105 will be running 717 tomorrow.

Do you know wether they will be the white plastic headboards like on the 67ts events and the last Chesham Shuttle last day? Or a proper metal headboard?

I saw 5104 and 5134 paired with seperate units last night? Are you sure?

I passed 5169 & 5016 on Monday this week at Northwood on a Southbound S Stock.

I noticed that one of the trailer cars on unit 5169 (6169/6168?) had one remaining pre-refurb 'No Smoking' roundel in the window - all of the other windows had the post-refurb Red rectangular 'No Smoking' stickers.

Anyone else notice this.? This got me wondering if there are there any other known pre-refurb curiostiies that survived.....

I think 'proper' LT/LU headboards have always been painted wood.

T717 did run today and was formed of N-5105+5134-S. It arrived in Northwood Engineers' Siding at 1259

Further to Northwoodterry's post of 08.41 this morning, just after the A Stock was refurbished, I did a fleet check of the variety of non-smoking labels (sad, but true as I did with the 1973 Stock before refurbishment, but that's another story).

So here goes. I'll descibe them as "standard" LT bullseye, white-lettering-on-red "disc" (as on D Stock) and "rectangular" (non-LU-type), if you get my drift.

There were variations on the first 7 trains:

Train 1 (5234+5173). Car 5234 had a mix of disc and rectangular, 5172 had a mix of standard and rectangular, while 5173 had standard only. 6234, 6235, 5235, 6172 and 6173 all had rectangular.

Train 2 (5132+5169). 5132, 6133, 5133, 5169 and 6169 had a mix of standard and rectangular, 6132 and 5169 had all rectangular and 6168 had a mix of all three.

Train 3 (5142+5231). 5142, 6142 and the whole four cars of unit 5231 had a mix of standard and rectangular, 6142 had all rectangular and 6143 had all standard.

Train 4 (5068+5205). 6068, 6069, 5069, 6204, 6205 had a mix of standard and rectangular, while 5068, 5204 and 5205 all had rectangular.

Train 5 (5080+5211). All eight cars had a mix of standard and rectangular.

Train 6 (5012+5183). All had rectangular.

Train 7 (5084+5203). 6202 and 5203 had all standard, 6203 had a mix of standard and rectangular and all other cars had rectangular.

Train 8 onwards all had rectangular.

So, in summary, only two cars had the white (lettering) on red disc - 5234 and 6168.

The cars with a 'mix' might not have been an equal mix - may have been an odd one or two of one sort, etc.

Before you tell me "oh no they didn't" (or were different), and as I did this some 13+ years ago, with window breakages and replacements might have changed the whole list above!

Finally, refurbished Trains 1, 2 and 3 at first had much larger car numbers above the windows. And do you remember they had slightly smaller white car numbers on the roof domes to the right of the destination blind at first ....

Just outta interest, when was 5130 refurbished? Plus, which unit did it go with?

Also, what plans do LUL fleet have?

Thanks Reg for sharing that

or perhaps

Running out of service from Chalfont with all passengers in the front car to Chalfont from Chesham

I think I was on that - Barbican to Baker Street (paired with 5025?), and thinking (as I don't use the Met very often) that it may be the last time I use A stock for a genuine trip (i.e not for the express purpose of riding an A stock) Looks like it might have been its last run, unless there's some spare glass available

Srange, I don't think of leafy Buckinghamshire as a likely haunt for people who'd do that sort of thing - apart from anything else, they'd get very bored.

i wouldn't bet on that,its certainly gone down hill.no area today is safe from anti social behavior.

www.police.uk/crime/?q=Chesham,%20Buckinghamshire%20HP5,%20UK#crimetypes/2012-04

5024 was unscathed but 5118 is my worry