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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 13:15:58 GMT
Is T717 booked for Monday and Wednesday this week please? Or will there only be 1 scrap run again like last week?
Best Wishes From Green Lion.
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Post by graeme186 on May 27, 2012 18:53:39 GMT
with 5016 at the South?  Looks like it Unless its been uncoupled from 5169 which is unlikely  5016+5169 bowed out as T416 on Friday the 25th. |
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Post by graeme186 on May 27, 2012 18:56:33 GMT
Is T717 booked for Monday and Wednesday this week please? Or will there only be 1 scrap run again like last week? Best Wishes From Green Lion. Bob has told us that there will be two S8 deliveries this coming week so based on on the policy of 'one in, one out', my expectation is that if there is an S8 delivery tomorrow night, T717 will operate on Wednesday as well as tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 18:58:12 GMT
5169 north 5016 south
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Post by metman on May 27, 2012 19:43:44 GMT
Any idea what will form 717 on Wednesday?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 22:17:13 GMT
It's been reported, elsewhere, that the A stock is due to finish on the 29th June. Can any of the Met Mainline crowd confirm?
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Post by redsetter on May 27, 2012 22:28:01 GMT
i thought it was mid july the runs were booked.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2012 22:32:00 GMT
i thought it was mid july the runs were booked. The poster of the gen seems absolutely convinced of the reliability of the source they got it from. |
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Post by redsetter on May 27, 2012 23:13:10 GMT
With almost all of the S8 Stock Trains here, how long until we can expect the last A Stock Train to leave Neasden? Well! it's anyone's guess really, but the idea is as far as I understand that there'll only be 4 trains of A Stock kept back for emergency use during the Olympics and then they will be disposed of in September apart from one A60 double ended unit, which is going to be preserved at Ruislip depot. With all this in mind, the end of A Stock operation in regular daily service can only be a few weeks away, although as far as I know, there's no precise cut off date for this. The last T717 scrap run prior to the Olympics is booked for Monday 25. July. Hope this has at least gone some way to answering your question. Best Wishes Green Lion. thought i saw it somewhere. |
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Post by malcolmffc on May 28, 2012 8:09:16 GMT
They certainly won't be able to scrap all the A stock by that date. But it may well be possible to be running an S-only Met service by then
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Post by twobellstogo on May 28, 2012 8:13:29 GMT
It's been reported, elsewhere, that the A stock is due to finish on the 29th June. Can any of the Met Mainline crowd confirm? Assuming two trains go this week, there'll be 12 trains left by Thursday morning. Can't see all of them going by 29th June, the withdrawal rate would have to go up somewhat. I suspect only one train will go next week too, with the Jubilee celebrations. There may well be enough S stock by 29th June though to run a 100% S stock runout. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 8:16:07 GMT
Hi all!
There does seem to be conflicting reports as to the exact date for the end of the A Stock in regular service. The strong consensus has been mid-July and this would seem to make most sense, but others are now saying 29. June. which is a fortnight earlier.
I think all we can say for certain is that their days in regular passenger service are well and truly numbered.
Best Wishes to all
Green Lion.
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Post by 21146 on May 28, 2012 10:08:39 GMT
They certainly won't be able to scrap all the A stock by that date. But it may well be possible to be running an S-only Met service by then Well, whenever they go, I hope plans are afoot to properly commemorate the last passenger run. I was able to fix 'last silver train' notices on the windows of the final pre-refurb train to operate but won't be in a position to do anything this time. |
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Post by Antje on May 28, 2012 11:03:56 GMT
They certainly won't be able to scrap all the A stock by that date. But it may well be possible to be running an S-only Met service by then Well, whenever they go, I hope plans are afoot to properly commemorate the last passenger run. I was able to fix 'last silver train' notices on the windows of the final pre-refurb train to operate but won't be in a position to do anything this time. Exactly the same thing that happened for the final run of 5000/5233 on Thursday night. However the length of service warrants a lot more. |
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Post by allan60 on May 28, 2012 16:56:45 GMT
I have been told that On Tuesday 19th June 2012, the first S7 will arrive at Neasden Depot so I'm guessing only 1 A stock will go for scrap on that week.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 17:44:23 GMT
On Tuesday 19th June 2012, the first S7 will arrive at Neasden Depot After travelling on a boiling Sardine Can on the H&C earlier, this is good to hear! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 18:25:38 GMT
They are on target to provide the full 47 met service with s stocks.
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Post by superteacher on May 28, 2012 19:00:59 GMT
They are on target to provide the full 47 met service with s stocks. I thought it was a 50 train peak service. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 28, 2012 19:29:20 GMT
i thought it was mid july the runs were booked. Doesn't mean they'll all be needed. I would expect paths to be booked well after the last date that the withdrawals are intended to be needed, in case of delays in the changeover programme. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 28, 2012 20:56:33 GMT
They are on target to provide the full 47 met service with s stocks. I thought it was a 50 train peak service. Actually WTT331 requires 49 Mon-Fri peak |
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Post by superteacher on May 28, 2012 21:06:24 GMT
I thought it was a 50 train peak service. Actually WTT331 requires 49 Mon-Fri peak I'm pretty sure it's 50 for the pm peak though. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 28, 2012 21:12:00 GMT
Actually WTT331 requires 49 Mon-Fri peak I'm pretty sure it's 50 for the pm peak though. Apologies! (schoolboy reading error) WTT331 requires 49 Mon-Fri AM peak, 50 PM peak. |
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Post by astock5000 on May 28, 2012 23:11:58 GMT
I can confirm that these units ran as T717 today. |
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Post by causton on May 29, 2012 0:00:51 GMT
Me too - with a video coming in the near future! (Flickr set is... 12% processed. *taps watch*)!
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Post by malcolmffc on May 29, 2012 7:51:38 GMT
So what's going next?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 18:12:53 GMT
Its very doubtful that any other mass transit vehicle will ever defeat the 50 years of service they have provided, under such heavy use. The MP59 stock on lines 4 and 11 of the Paris Metro are over 50 years old, and the similar MR-63 stock in Montreal will be just over 50 years old by the time they finally go in 2017. Some of the early (pre WW1) Chicago L stock lasted over 50 years. I thought perhaps the real record holder is the Berlin S-bahn "Stadtbahn" stock (class ET165, later 475) in service June 1928 - December 1997 (not quite 70 years). But then remembered the Athens-Pireus (ISAP) whose original electric stock of 1904 lasted until 1985 (81 years). In this country the original Mersey Railway electric stock lasted 53 years (1903-1956) - while the Liverpool Overhead was still using its original (1893) stock on closure in 1956. How the use level of these compare (over the years) with that of the A stock I couldn't say, but for any rapid transit stock a life of 50 or more years is good going. How long I wonder will any modern stock last? |
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Post by phillw48 on May 29, 2012 18:34:22 GMT
The original Paris 'Sprague' stock was in use from 1904-1983, 79 years in total.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 29, 2012 18:36:33 GMT
The MP59 stock on lines 4 and 11 of the Paris Metro are over 50 years old, and the similar MR-63 stock in Montreal will be just over 50 years old by the time they finally go in 2017. Some of the early (pre WW1) Chicago L stock lasted over 50 years. I thought perhaps the real record holder is the Berlin S-bahn "Stadtbahn" stock (class ET165, later 475) in service June 1928 - December 1997 (not quite 70 years). But then remembered the Athens-Pireus (ISAP) whose original electric stock of 1904 lasted until 1985 (81 years). In this country the original Mersey Railway electric stock lasted 53 years (1903-1956) - while the Liverpool Overhead was still using its original (1893) stock on closure in 1956. How the use level of these compare (over the years) with that of the A stock I couldn't say, but for any rapid transit stock a life of 50 or more years is good going. How long I wonder will any modern stock last? Some of the 1938 tube stock was still operating on the Northern Line in 1988 - a couple worked on with the 1960 stock on the Ongar shuttle until 1994 - and some of it is still operating to this day on the IoW, well over 70 years old! |
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Post by graeme186 on May 29, 2012 19:59:36 GMT
What I do know is the following: - 5134 was uncoupled from 5161 and 5104 uncoupled from 5062 during today's midday off-peak - 5161+5063 was in service this evening - Only 5169+6169 remain at Northwood this evening with Alleys on site to remove them first thing in the morning - All other formations I've seen either this morning or this evening including 5060+5090 which was an evening peak starter. Followers can tie the above up with information previously supplied by 'undergrounddriver' |
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Post by a60 on May 29, 2012 20:04:47 GMT
What you must remember is that the A Stock for the 50 years they have been knocking about have been doing fasts to Amersham and Chesham. As far as I'm aware none of the other metros with aged rolling stock were on fasts through much of their life.
The only rolling stock in the world of subways that will ever compare to the A Stock is the R32 NYC Subway cars, (although at the age of 48 years they are much less reliable than the A Stock was at 48 years old). Suppose really that the express thing is offsetted by the fact that the other rolling stock lasted much longer.
Glasgow subway, their first rolling stock 1896 - 1977 (albeit not on the same traction through those years).
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