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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 18:31:29 GMT
It has happened! See Underground News January 2011 - photo page 5, lower (in B&W). A, C and D in one photo in daylight. Not particularly helpful if you're not LU staff. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 18:32:30 GMT
I believe you can buy Underground News in the Museum store - I have the October 2010 edition right here. They wanted three and a half quid for it  |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 10, 2011 18:35:22 GMT
UndergrounD News is the excellent monthly newsletter of the London UndergrounD Railway Society - not an LU publication.
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Post by Oracle on Feb 10, 2011 18:40:59 GMT
Get a sub via becoming a member...I should after all these years! Wish I had copies of my articles in UN that were published in the late 1970s/early 1908s.
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Post by oneround on Feb 10, 2011 18:55:59 GMT
It has happened! See Underground News January 2011 - photo page 5, lower (in B&W). A, C and D in one photo in daylight. Not particularly helpful if you're not LU staff. Ian Allen bookshops, close to Waterloo station stock it. |
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Post by causton on Feb 10, 2011 19:59:38 GMT
Wish I had copies of my articles in UN that were published in the late 1970s/early 1908s. How long ago?  |
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Post by slugabed on Feb 10, 2011 20:02:17 GMT
Get a sub via becoming a member...I should after all these years! Wish I had copies of my articles in UN that were published in the late 1970s/early 1908s. Oracle:I have UN from 1978 to about 1984.PM me if you would like to arrange to see them. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 21:22:25 GMT
Not particularly helpful if you're not LU staff. Ian Allen bookshops, close to Waterloo station stock it. I'm gonna be there tomorrow, might take a look. |
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Post by Oracle on Feb 10, 2011 22:11:37 GMT
Cheers Mr SB. I wrote about Underground to Terminal 4 and one on UD to T5.
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Post by Phil on Feb 11, 2011 7:55:42 GMT
AND? At the time of my post no trains were listed for movement or STOPPED. I hope this clarifies matters. Please don't keep being so agressive when shown to be wrong. You are showing exactly the same characteristics in your attitudes to others in general as did the member suspended a few weeks ago - - remarkably similar in fact. |
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Post by slugabed on Feb 11, 2011 10:51:20 GMT
Cheers Mr SB. I wrote about Underground to Terminal 4 and one on UD to T5. Oracle...If you know which issues they were in,I can photocopy them an pop them in the Post.No problem. Send me a Message...... |
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Post by Antje on Feb 11, 2011 11:07:09 GMT
Museum store and Ian Allan Waterloo should both have them. The latest issue confirmed no new A60/62 withdrawals but extensive coverage on the lifting of the cars at Neasden. Of course, there is now no more room for repeating that due to the works.
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Post by citysig on Feb 11, 2011 13:22:36 GMT
Keep your eyes peeled in April. And where exactly did you get this nugget of information? I would be interested to know your source. Haven't seen you bash the S-stock lately. Oh sorry, must be getting you mixed up with someone else. You're both very similar. |
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Post by metman on Feb 11, 2011 13:41:16 GMT
Indeed, in my day...
I would like to know when the next units of A stock are going however.
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Post by citysig on Feb 12, 2011 9:33:34 GMT
I'm afraid I cannot go into details at present, but can I just say that the withdrawal schedule (along with S-stock introduction) has met with a slight "pause."
It would be foolish to say there haven't been any issues. We all know there have been. So the "pause" will be used to allow some of the issues to be fully ironed out before the whole program forges ahead.
So whereas Mr oneround may spout certain dates, these are not going to happen. City running may also not meet the end of March target.
As an aside, the newest arrival to London entered passenger service yesterday, and ran during the evening peak with no issues whatsoever.
So for the next few weeks at least, there will be no more slaughtered A-stocks ;D
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Post by metman on Feb 12, 2011 9:40:34 GMT
Thank you for an honest answer mate, and its good new from my point of view that the A stock is safe for a little while longer! Keep up all the hard work  |
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Post by oneround on Feb 13, 2011 9:14:18 GMT
Was one of the reasons that Northwood chosen as the place to load the A stock onto the lorries as it is this location is outside of the London emission zone and the lorries used are not low emission vehicles and would have pay the emission zone charge? Xerces Fobe Northwood is the last rail to road accesss left on the Met. The last one at Neasden was lifted in 2008. |
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Post by oneround on Feb 13, 2011 9:19:45 GMT
Indeed, in my day... I would like to know when the next units of A stock are going however. How frequently will they be withdrawn? A required really, but given how the currret 5 ( one has been stopped since dec) S stock are performing right now the general thinking is to hold fire with the next round of scrapping. The biggest problem, is that Neasden depot has lost so much stabbing space, and the power upgrade is so late. The depot is still planning to let one go in April. If this changes i will let people know. |
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Post by Ben on Feb 13, 2011 14:43:41 GMT
I'm afraid I cannot go into details at present, but can I just say that the withdrawal schedule (along with S-stock introduction) has met with a slight "pause." It would be foolish to say there haven't been any issues. We all know there have been. So the "pause" will be used to allow some of the issues to be fully ironed out before the whole program forges ahead. So whereas Mr oneround may spout certain dates, these are not going to happen. City running may also not meet the end of March target. [.....] So for the next few weeks at least, there will be no more slaughtered A-stocks ;D Now hold on a second. In the interest of fair play, oneround said on the 4th Feb, 2011 at 7:22pm to which prjb replied: So which is it, either the plan is being slowed down to cover current events, or it isn't? And how come oneround is wrong regardless. |
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Post by oneround on Feb 13, 2011 15:18:40 GMT
I'm afraid I cannot go into details at present, but can I just say that the withdrawal schedule (along with S-stock introduction) has met with a slight "pause." It would be foolish to say there haven't been any issues. We all know there have been. So the "pause" will be used to allow some of the issues to be fully ironed out before the whole program forges ahead. So whereas Mr oneround may spout certain dates, these are not going to happen. City running may also not meet the end of March target. [.....] So for the next few weeks at least, there will be no more slaughtered A-stocks ;D Now hold on a second. In the interest of fair play, oneround said on the 4th Feb, 2011 at 7:22pm to which prjb replied: So which is it, either the plan is being slowed down to cover current events, or it isn't? And how come oneround is wrong regardless. Ben A intersting post. On certain message boards, there is a "ignore feature". Sadly i cannot find it on here, if i did i would use it on two certain users (not you!!) . My information is correct at the time of posting, and if it upsets certain users who think they know everything, then that cannot be helped. It seems two users have very green eyes, when others post information, they dont have, or will not tell others. Futhermore just to state : i have no intention to publish my grade, location, and or sources just to keep others happy. Having said that most users on here and very good, and im happy to answer questions via PM. Best wishes.  |
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Post by oneround on Feb 13, 2011 15:23:11 GMT
A small team of fitters went up north late last week, to remove a van full of parts from the two scrap trains. Before anyone asks me sill plates, and luggage racks were not included!! None of the A60's had been cut yet. |
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Post by Ben on Feb 13, 2011 16:34:10 GMT
This is an odd question, so forgive me, but when they withdraw the stock, do they remove all the flourescent tubes from the car interiors? Cos that must represent a good couple of hundred pounds per train. Is it any wonder though, I suppose, that in an organisation with as many different chains and levels of command as LUL different people/groups can at times be singing from very different song sheets? I wouldn't ignor anyone, but I just dont like it when consensus seems to dictate the tone of response. I would have thought that with something as major as the S stock introduction and A stock withdrawl the programme would be pushed from the top down and get constant feedback from the bottom up. How much political pressure is there to ensure the image of everything going to plan is stuck to, at least in public? Is this at times interfereing with what the people in charge would ideally like to do given more freedom? Perhaps these questions will be answered through the rail press in a decade or so's time. I'm sure though that the back story behind it all would make a fascinating read! oneround, you say a van load of parts was removed? Presumably this must have been everything left of the systems that were working to get them up there! They're deffinitely missing a trick not flogging the luggage racks though. Fairly certain most of the met regulars on here would be happy to pay however much for a bit of nostalgia! How would you even arrange something like that though? |
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Post by metman on Feb 13, 2011 17:18:16 GMT
Why were the parts not removed at Northwood, it wasn't like they didn't have enough time with the cars just sitting around!
They probably took everything back from compressors to grid resistances!
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Post by phillw48 on Feb 13, 2011 17:55:44 GMT
If anyone wanted items such as luggage racks could they not contact the breakers about purchasing them?
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Post by metman on Feb 13, 2011 18:20:50 GMT
They could do. C Booth does have a website. www.cfbooth.com/Rolling-Stock/It's not the sort of place I like, bit similar to going to railway hell and back  |
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Post by Ben on Feb 13, 2011 18:32:43 GMT
I'd prefer any money to go to TfL or an employee of such than a scrap yard! Booths would pay just as much surely for a car with luggage racks as ones without. Sum of the parts is greater than the whole perhaps  Agree with you though metman, dont think the mental images are ones I'd want to keep. |
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Post by citysig on Feb 13, 2011 21:02:02 GMT
There is no way I wish to rise to Mr oneround's bait, and will not be drawn into any argument, however all I will say is that I do not have green eyes.
I do get handed very accurate information, and if I feel that someone - in particular an LU employee - is slating not just the team involved but the whole company, I will not simply keep my mouth shut.
Good, healthy discussion is one thing, but whilst I am a member here, I cannot allow people who know me on here (my manager included) to think I'm simply agreeing with such opinions.
My job and the "extra roles" which come with such a position, do tend to mean that I am relatively well informed. No I'm not going to always be 100% correct, as the picture is always changing. Unfortunately so do the rumours.
Whilst I appreciate Mr oneround may have obtained some information from somewhere, by the time he posted it on here (maybe with good intention) it was inaccurate - either by it being out of date or by him being fed a pack of rumours in the first place.
In simple answer to Ben's questions and comments, a week, as in politics, is a long time on LU. This time last week, everything was on target as previously stated. However a number of issues have now arisen. They may have been there this time last week, but they had not been communicated to me.
As I am sure you will appreciate, I really can't go into details at this stage. If one of the project teams feels they can, then so be it. It is their project after all. Sorry if it means I have no visible foundation to my claims, you'll just have to believe me for now - or not if you like. If members of the forum staff would like me to name my sources I can. I don't think it would be in my interests to name them openly here.
In conclusion, the whole stage at this present time is an ever changing scene. If it wasn't, then we would very easily have all the S-stocks in service very very quickly without anything at all happening. There are times when even LU employess that are close to the project won't share the same facts. But at the end of it all, the S-stock will enter service, will hopefully give us years of sterling service, and maybe in a few decades time we'll re-visit this thread when the next stock is trialled ;D
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Post by redsetter on Feb 14, 2011 4:05:28 GMT
A small team of fitters went up north late last week, to remove a van full of parts from the two scrap trains. Before anyone asks me sill plates, and luggage racks were not included!! None of the A60's had been cut yet. those racks' look like something ikea would sell.it may be that they are not allowed to sell souvenir objects in a contract perhaps that's why they haven't been mentioned as yet here. perhaps the parts were removed at booths and just collected,but reusing old parts' it may be that they are equally worn to what is being removed. |
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Post by redsetter on Feb 15, 2011 7:46:10 GMT
found a picture on the net of when they were new.  |
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Post by metman on Feb 15, 2011 7:55:12 GMT
Wonderful aren't they! So very different to the brown and red trains then operating on the Met, most having compartments.
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