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Post by citysig on Jul 27, 2011 9:04:00 GMT
5205 was down as being "wanted back in depot for scrap prep" on our sheets last night. So that looks like half of the next train.
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 27, 2011 20:16:41 GMT
5205 was down as being "wanted back in depot for scrap prep" on our sheets last night. So that looks like half of the next train. Thank you very much for this advice MetControl. Undoubtedly you're right as a pattern has emerged over the last four weeks whereby units for Monday's scrap train have largely been pulled from traffic on either the previous Tuesday or Wednesday in order to allow a couple of days for them to be stipped as required. As for the other unit, I'm wondering about 5014, 5048 or 5054. All three have been uncoupled in the last couple of days. Also, 5048 is the last of the five units that was on the list posted on this site about a year ago as being the first candidates for withdrawal. There are also three doubled ended units that I have not observed in the last few days, namely 5106, 5112 and 5120. I expect we'll find that these units have been undergoing maintenance or repair. It's all very well all these A Stock Units being withdrawn but I'm wondering if we need to be getting a couple more S Stock trains into service or we'll be cancelling trains! I assume one more is being delivered tonight and given another A Stock is to leave Monday, a further S8 will turn up next week. As I passed Neasden Depot this evening, all I could see was S Stock trains. Much more can be seen on the back roads from the mainline now the old Cleaning Shed has come down. Perhaps a couple more will be in service from Monday commensurate with WTT330? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 20:53:44 GMT
No No! Not 5054!
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Post by citysig on Jul 27, 2011 22:36:25 GMT
As for the other unit, I'm wondering about 5014, 5048 or 5054. All three have been uncoupled in the last couple of days. Also, 5048 is the last of the five units that was on the list posted on this site about a year ago as being the first candidates for withdrawal. There are also three doubled ended units that I have not observed in the last few days, namely 5106, 5112 and 5120. I expect we'll find that these units have been undergoing maintenance or repair. No other unit that was out and about today was down on the list, therefore leading one to believe the other unit is already within the confines of the depot. Double-ended units? A couple will be needed for the engineering work timetables discussed elsewhere, to run that shuttle thing we said we'd never run again  ;D It's all very well all these A Stock Units being withdrawn but I'm wondering if we need to be getting a couple more S Stock trains into service or we'll be cancelling trains! I assume one more is being delivered tonight and given another A Stock is to leave Monday, a further S8 will turn up next week. As I passed Neasden Depot this evening, all I could see was S Stock trains. Much more can be seen on the back roads from the mainline now the old Cleaning Shed has come down. Perhaps a couple more will be in service from Monday commensurate with WTT330? Watch this space - I will be updating the "S-stock workings" thread over the weekend with the new workings. There will be one extra train formed of S-stock from next week, with a gradual increase over the coming weeks. From September expect weekend S-stocks and further outstabling overnight. Stock availability is not currently an issue. There are other problems which may cause difficulties from next week, but the scrap-page program will not be a factor and can continue as planned... |
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Post by cso on Jul 28, 2011 9:00:26 GMT
There are other problems which may cause difficulties from next week, but the scrap-page program will not be a factor and can continue as planned... I assume you can't elaborate on the problems? |
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Post by citysig on Jul 28, 2011 15:54:09 GMT
No I can't at this point - it's nothing that mysterious though. Hopefully if things pan out (and a plan I've been asked to work on works out) then it may not be as noticeable.
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 28, 2011 19:44:41 GMT
5054+5211 was taken OOS on Tues AM with a defect (saw it running ety from Aldgate). 5211 was back in service y'day suggesting the problem was with 5054. I'm sure we will find, however, that 5054 is quickly sorted out and returned to service |
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 28, 2011 19:48:30 GMT
5205 was down as being "wanted back in depot for scrap prep" on our sheets last night. So that looks like half of the next train. As for the other unit, I'm wondering about 5014, 5048 or 5054. All three have been uncoupled in the last couple of days. Also, 5048 is the last of the five units that was on the list posted on this site about a year ago as being the first candidates for withdrawal. There are also three doubled ended units that I have not observed in the last few days, namely 5106, 5112 and 5120. I expect we'll find that these units have been undergoing maintenance or repair.quote] 5014 noted in service today as was 5112. I'm still convinced 5048 is the other unit but we'll see |
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 28, 2011 19:52:07 GMT
The Northwood disposal process is obviously getting slicker or 5004 and 6004 have gone missing! All four vehicles of 5004/05 disposed of today meaning all eight cars disposed of in three days.
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 28, 2011 19:55:18 GMT
5205 was down as being "wanted back in depot for scrap prep" on our sheets last night. So that looks like half of the next train. Thank you very much for this advice MetControl. Undoubtedly you're right as a pattern has emerged over the last four weeks whereby units for Monday's scrap train have largely been pulled from traffic on either the previous Tuesday or Wednesday in order to allow a couple of days for them to be stipped as required. As for the other unit, I'm wondering about 5014, 5048 or 5054. All three have been uncoupled in the last couple of days. Also, 5048 is the last of the five units that was on the list posted on this site about a year ago as being the first candidates for withdrawal. There are also three doubled ended units that I have not observed in the last few days, namely 5106, 5112 and 5120. I expect we'll find that these units have been undergoing maintenance or repair. It's all very well all these A Stock Units being withdrawn but I'm wondering if we need to be getting a couple more S Stock trains into service or we'll be cancelling trains! I assume one more is being delivered tonight and given another A Stock is to leave Monday, a further S8 will turn up next week. As I passed Neasden Depot this evening, all I could see was S Stock trains. Much more can be seen on the back roads from the mainline now the old Cleaning Shed has come down. Perhaps a couple more will be in service from Monday commensurate with WTT330? Sorry, editiorial error in above entry. 5014 noted in service today as was 5112. I'm still convinced 5048 is the other unit but we'll see |
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Post by metman on Jul 28, 2011 22:50:02 GMT
Yes noticed that nothing was at Northwood this evening!  Glad to see 5112 is still in service.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 14:25:39 GMT
Just seen a mate's facebook status update and he seems to think 5000 could be the next to go. I certainly hope not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 15:19:22 GMT
Shouldn't be, but you never know |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 15:25:29 GMT
I've just heard a further rumour saying that it's one way working to Northwood could be 4th August.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 17:30:09 GMT
The Northwood disposal process is obviously getting slicker or 5004 and 6004 have gone missing! All four vehicles of 5004/05 disposed of today meaning all eight cars disposed of in three days. Is that right? I only ask because they were delivered to Eastleigh over 4 days with the last two arriving there today. It was the same two wagons used to deliver them at that end. |
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 29, 2011 20:39:25 GMT
The Northwood disposal process is obviously getting slicker or 5004 and 6004 have gone missing! All four vehicles of 5004/05 disposed of today meaning all eight cars disposed of in three days. Is that right? I only ask because they were delivered to Eastleigh over 4 days with the last two arriving there today. It was the same two wagons used to deliver them at that end. I can confirm that when I passed the site at about 1830 last night, there was no A Stock in there. Like you, I was expecting to see two cars still in there which would have left this morning. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 29, 2011 21:24:17 GMT
Just seen a mate's facebook status update and he seems to think 5000 could be the next to go. I certainly hope not. Please no. Can I ask, is there a particular order in what units are disposed? How is it decided which unit goes? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 21:51:38 GMT
It's all done on maintenance requirements which is not necessarily in any number order we might expect. Changes to the schedule might be if a unit goes 'dud' and it is deemed not worth returning it to traffic.
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 29, 2011 23:04:04 GMT
I would be grateful if anyone can confirm that the timings of T717 are unchanged arising from the introduction of WTT330.
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Post by a60 on Jul 29, 2011 23:18:57 GMT
I'm not going to make any guesses on 5205's company in No 22, it could be any unit, even 5165 for example.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2011 9:11:03 GMT
I can confirm that when I passed the site at about 1830 last night, there was no A Stock in there. Like you, I was expecting to see two cars still in there which would have left this morning. I reckon they may have loaded the last two on Thursday evening in order to get an early start to Eastleigh for Friday and then knock off in time for the weekend. From what I've seen, collecting from Northwood and tipping at Eastleigh is quite quick and its only the restrictions on London rush hour road movements that means that you cant do more than one trip per day. The journey between the two locations seems to take 2.5 hours in good traffic. Quite impressive really |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2011 9:49:59 GMT
Plus there's the drivers' working hours to consider in doing the job.
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Post by citysig on Jul 30, 2011 9:50:59 GMT
I would be grateful if anyone can confirm that the timings of T717 are unchanged arising from the introduction of WTT330. They are unchanged, although the booked runs for the next 2 Mondays are subject to late notice cancellation - not due a lack of available scrap trains however. |
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 30, 2011 17:38:33 GMT
I would be grateful if anyone can confirm that the timings of T717 are unchanged arising from the introduction of WTT330. They are unchanged, although the booked runs for the next 2 Mondays are subject to late notice cancellation - not due a lack of available scrap trains however. Thank you very much for the confirmation MetControl. |
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Post by markbonney on Jul 31, 2011 19:32:16 GMT
5048, and 5205 are next to go. Monday morning.
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 31, 2011 20:42:54 GMT
5048, and 5205 are next to go. Monday morning. Thank you very much for the confirmation. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2011 11:56:13 GMT
Right, some updates:
717 formed of 5048 & 5204 past the roadbridge just south of Northwood at 12:45.
I'll post again once its in the sding
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2011 12:30:55 GMT
RIP 5204/5048
Got into the siding at about 13:20
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Post by metman on Aug 5, 2011 11:46:55 GMT
Whats going next? |
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Post by citysig on Aug 5, 2011 19:37:45 GMT
No hints being given for next week's move on our sheets. There have been a few units this week that have caused delays and may then have "jumped" the list.
After this coming Monday, there will be a 2-week break in disposals to match up with a 2-week break in S-stock deliveries.
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