S stock delivery & introduction - discussion

There's been 'frequent' signal failures at East Putney recently

With the last S8s being shown as In Darby and the list always a month behind am I right in thinking that we will be saying goodbye to the 3 S7+1 shortly?

Usually in service to Olympia.

Olympia trains run during the week when major events take place.

Indeed will be running 16-22 December due to an exhibition.
Then will operate from 1945 on 23 December due to Network Rail engineering work on the West London Line, services will continue on 24 December.

I would hope that the S Stock aren't going to be replaced any time soon! [/pedant]

I never understand why so many people seem to hate C stock. Sure not the best train ever built, but good crowd shifters, and very satisfying to drive. Their biggest weakness was only being 6-cars long -- although of course the DM-T design was intended for ease of formation into 8-car trains.

By contrast, the S stock has some good design features, but in my view is ruined by a horrible interior. (Also I find the front end looks incredibly displeasing, but this has no effect on the passenger).

I found the C Stock quite acceptable.

The seating was more comfortable than D stock, and, I think, more comfortable than S-Stock. The worst thing about them from my POV is that they were a bit rattly.

In the new timetable, are there any working being operated by S stock, apart from the Wimbledon to Edgware Road service?

That's what I read in the WTT. However, I wanted to know if there are any designated S Stock workings already, rather like train 121 in the previous timetable.

There will be, but we don't know precisely when yet (other than the two daily H&C Upminster's referred to elsewhere from February).

We can now run S stock to Upminster, but only empty to & from Barking at the moment. S stock are still not allowed to Richmond unless crewed by test trains (and thus out of service).

Once Richmond and Upminster are signed off for passenger service we'll be cooking on gas, but what the hold ups are exactly is something I'm not high enough in the food chain to know about


What that actually means is the training trips shown in the working timetable have been withdrawn.

753 is very much still alive at the moment as its being used for Upminster's S stock refresher trips this week, following different timing paths from that previously used of course!

There is a second training train that's never made a WTT - 754 - that still exists too.

Whilst I appreciate you're only repeating what you've been told about signal sighting, I find it a little bizarre that thats difference between running in or out of service.

Maximum obtainable with auto weak-field switched in is 47mph. (62mph on certain sections of the MET), which are both above the maximum permitted line speed.

How's the driver training going (what % is done)