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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 26, 2014 10:11:49 GMT
Presumably Bombardier must have stopped production by now as, surely, there would be nowhere to store the units if they were being made at the rate they were when H&C and Met introductions were running at full steam. Bombardier haven't stopped production yet, still running at full rate on a recent LURS visit. Seen around the works in various stages of completion were:21485/86, 21491/92, 21503/04, 21517/18 + many others not visible. Old Dalby test facility has recently been expanded to store 35 trains on site. With 21443/44 delivered to London that's 21 trains up to 21485/86 presumed stored. Work on the Richmond and Upminster lines are continuing, it is hoped to commence service to both with the new timetable or very shortly afterwards. "End of 2016" would be quite manageable with 75 D Stock to replace in 104 weeks (Jan 2015-Dec 2016) |
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 26, 2014 15:36:01 GMT
Major track work at Richmond this weekend.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Oct 26, 2014 15:37:46 GMT
I really can't see why it matters so much, or why they bother giving any dates at all. It's not as if the existing trains are inconveniencing anybody (which is, after all what passengers pay for - a proper service) and if the S Stock is a little late into service it means it'll last a little longer down the line so no money has been wasted. The S will turn up in the fullness of time when they're good and ready.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 22:28:28 GMT
As someone in a wheelchair the D stock's step up/down is an inconvenience to me.
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Post by class411 on Oct 27, 2014 9:32:04 GMT
I really can't see why it matters so much, or why they bother giving any dates at all. It's not as if the existing trains are inconveniencing anybody (which is, after all what passengers pay for - a proper service) and if the S Stock is a little late into service it means it'll last a little longer down the line so no money has been wasted. The S will turn up in the fullness of time when they're good and ready. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Indeed. It's one of those instances where it would have been better if they had said nothing rather that continually making statements about introduction dates that were not met. As you say, there's nothing wrong with the D stock from the POV of most passengers. It's just that it makes tfl look incompetent when they keep missing dates. And they've missed a LOT of dates on the S Stock project. Sent from my computer using keyboard |
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Post by malcolmffc on Oct 27, 2014 13:40:58 GMT
At my local station is a poster saying the S stock will replace the old trains by the end of 2016 ( this poster is at stations East of Barking) In the mean time the D stock is being left to rot as regards the passengers can see in the tatty seating, dirt inside and out. Good - I would be horrified if TfL were spending any more than the bare minimum required to keep the trains running given they are all being scrapped in the next 2 years. |
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Post by wimblephil on Oct 28, 2014 5:21:22 GMT
I really can't see why it matters so much, or why they bother giving any dates at all. It's not as if the existing trains are inconveniencing anybody (which is, after all what passengers pay for - a proper service) and if the S Stock is a little late into service it means it'll last a little longer down the line so no money has been wasted. The S will turn up in the fullness of time when they're good and ready. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Indeed. Sent from my computer using keyboard Sorry, I know it's not constructive at all to this thread, but that did make me giggle! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 28, 2014 9:00:57 GMT
End of 2016 is easily achievable.
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Post by mb2014 on Nov 3, 2014 11:34:02 GMT
Does 21099-21100 not have to go back for modification? Trains have been going in numerical order with this one missed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 11:43:02 GMT
It went back last week.
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Post by domh245 on Nov 3, 2014 12:06:35 GMT
How many S8s are due to go back for modifications, the fleet must be nearing completion now?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 17:45:01 GMT
21100-21099 was the last to go back and is currently there with 21116-21115. (That particular) job will then be done!
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Post by Indefatigable on Nov 3, 2014 17:53:22 GMT
You know, I still can't tell the difference between S7 and S8 apart from a few minor interior changes
What is the differences? I've looked at wiki but really not helpful in this case
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Post by crusty54 on Nov 3, 2014 18:37:19 GMT
Apart from an extra car S8s have a few transverse seats. All seats on an S7 face inwards.
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Post by domh245 on Nov 3, 2014 18:49:32 GMT
The best way to tell them apart once they're in service proper, and there aren't and S7+1s, will be to look at what it says on the front! If it says Metropolitan line, all stations, semi-fast, or fast, it'll be an S8, anything else, S7. You can also look at the units numbers, anything that starts 2X0XX or 2X1XX is an S8, if it is 2X3XX, 2X4XX, or 2X5XX.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 21:41:43 GMT
Also the line diagrams inside are another way.
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Post by mb2014 on Nov 4, 2014 14:01:52 GMT
21100-21099 was the last to go back and is currently there with 21116-21115. (That particular) job will then be done! Is 21113/14 currently at Derby or already back in London? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 16:13:32 GMT
21114-21113 back last week.
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Post by mb2014 on Nov 5, 2014 17:21:53 GMT
Any indication when the S7+1 trains will become S7 and go to their intended lines?
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 5, 2014 17:23:20 GMT
You know, I still can't tell the difference between S7 and S8 apart from a few minor interior changes What is the differences? I've looked at wiki but really not helpful in this case I generally find the number of cars is a big giveaway. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 18:52:40 GMT
Any indication when the S7+1 trains will become S7 and go to their intended lines? Latest I have is "not any time soon". |
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Post by class411 on Nov 6, 2014 8:45:00 GMT
You know, I still can't tell the difference between S7 and S8 apart from a few minor interior changes What is the differences? I've looked at wiki but really not helpful in this case I generally find the number of cars is a big giveaway. But the seating is useful if the entire train is not visible - and also differentiates between an S8 and an S7+1. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 22:15:07 GMT
Been a few weeks since the last post. Have the signaling problems at Upminster over the past two weeks after the weekend work caused any delay for the expected completion of Barking-Upminster services?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 28, 2014 6:24:02 GMT
Been a few weeks since the last post. Have the signaling problems at Upminster over the past two weeks after the weekend work caused any delay for the expected completion of Barking-Upminster services? First test run in Traffic Hours was completed on Wednesday with others scheduled next week. Hopefully from 14 December S7s will be running driver training trips (possibly empty), with service introduction from mid-January. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 16:21:08 GMT
There is still a couple of sighting issues to iron out but should look good for new year
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Post by DWS on Nov 29, 2014 10:02:08 GMT
Has the Network Rail restriction on S Stock running to Richmond been lifted ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 10:47:22 GMT
Not as yet
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 14:07:02 GMT
What happened to the Ealing Broadway S Stock trains? I haven't seen them for quite a while at Stepney Green.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 9:03:27 GMT
I have seen at least one S stock at Acton town carrying passengers heading towards Ealing Broadway this week.
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Post by Hassaan on Dec 2, 2014 4:13:13 GMT
Yesterday evening, Train 121 was 21370. However, when I boarded it at West Ham at roughly 1705, it was displaying Not in Service, and that was still the case by the time I got off at Tower Hill. Several confused passengers at Aldgate East when the driver announced it was a District Line to Ealing Broadway.
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