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Post by tel on Jun 3, 2014 10:27:15 GMT
Might it be because Litchurch Lane need the space for production of 387s and Overground trailers. There also seems to be some hiatus with the production/delivery of the 377/7s
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 12, 2014 6:31:58 GMT
The first S7 Stock passenger workings to Ealing and Richmond should commence tomorrow with one trip to each destination.
As from next week 2 trips to each will be made in the midday off-peak period M-F.
These are additional trains and are not replacing D Stock and can be cancelled at a moments notice.
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Post by malcolmffc on Jun 12, 2014 6:40:35 GMT
The first S7 Stock passenger workings to Ealing and Richmond should commence tomorrow with one trip to each destination. As from next week 2 trips to each will be made in the midday off-peak period M-F. These are additional trains and are not replacing D Stock and can be cancelled at a moments notice. Fantastic that these are starting already! Presumably they can't go further east than Barking for now (and hence, in practice, will most likely terminate at Tower Hill)?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 13, 2014 11:06:01 GMT
21415/16 performed the first passenger working from Barking to Ealing Broadway.
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Post by Antje on Jun 17, 2014 20:35:19 GMT
Apparently the first S7 Stock to Richmond ran later than I expected. I was at the right place at the right time but only the D Stock appeared. I probably got to get my communication methods fixed for Upminster.
I'm getting really bad at this.
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Post by graeme186 on Jun 17, 2014 21:13:57 GMT
21427/428 stabled in Wembley Park Sidings today
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 21:21:22 GMT
What is left between Barking and Upminster before they start any kind of day time testing/service?
I've also noticed some kind of large structure at the end of platform 4 at Upminster (looks like a stairs to a diving board) appear within past two weeks. Does anyone know what this is and why it's only on one platform?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 17, 2014 21:23:09 GMT
Apparently the first S7 Stock to Richmond ran later than I expected. I was at the right place at the right time but only the D Stock appeared. I probably got to get my communication methods fixed for Upminster. I'm getting really bad at this. The train was 40mins late leaving Barking due to no train being available until the H&C lent them one
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 17, 2014 21:27:32 GMT
What is left between Barking and Upminster before they start any kind of day time testing/service? I've also noticed some kind of large structure at the end of platform 4 at Upminster (looks like a stairs to a diving board) appear within past two weeks. Does anyone know what this is and why it's only on one platform? The structure on platform 4 is to house the re-sited shunt signal and rail-gap indicator which were mounted at track level and unsighted by S Stock. Signal immunisation is still taking place Upney-Upminster, i think the signal re-sighting has now been completed. Enhancement to power supplies in the longer term are taking place at Upminster Bridge, Hornchurch, Elm Park, Heathway and Upney substations.
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Post by Tom on Jun 17, 2014 21:50:52 GMT
Signal immunisation is still taking place Upney-Upminster, i think the signal re-sighting has now been completed. As I understand there are still three sighting modifications to be commissioned, and the immunisation work is to follow on from there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 22:09:09 GMT
What is left between Barking and Upminster before they start any kind of day time testing/service? I've also noticed some kind of large structure at the end of platform 4 at Upminster (looks like a stairs to a diving board) appear within past two weeks. Does anyone know what this is and why it's only on one platform? The structure on platform 4 is to house the re-sited shunt signal and rail-gap indicator which were mounted at track level and unsighted by S Stock. Signal immunisation is still taking place Upney-Upminster, i think the signal re-sighting has now been completed. Enhancement to power supplies in the longer term are taking place at Upminster Bridge, Hornchurch, Elm Park, Heathway and Upney substations. Sorry, what is meant by signal immunisation? Ta
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 22:26:16 GMT
The train was 40mins late leaving Barking due to no train being available until the H&C lent them one It would be more accurate to say the H&C had "taken" the District's train owing to one of theirs being defective and the first District to Richmond had to wait for Test Train team to deliver a replacement train!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 22:29:10 GMT
Two passenger S stock trips to Richmond were completed: Barking bay - Richmond p7 - High Street Kensington p3 - Richmond p6 - Barking Sidings. units were 21400 (west) + 21399 (east)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 6:56:48 GMT
The structure on platform 4 is to house the re-sited shunt signal and rail-gap indicator which were mounted at track level and unsighted by S Stock. Signal immunisation is still taking place Upney-Upminster, i think the signal re-sighting has now been completed. Enhancement to power supplies in the longer term are taking place at Upminster Bridge, Hornchurch, Elm Park, Heathway and Upney substations. Sorry, what is meant by signal immunisation? Ta The traction electronics in more modern trains can generate spurious interference currents at all kinds of frequencies. These have the potential (ha ha) to interfere with track circuits etc which is clearly undesirable. Modifications are made to the signalling installation to prevent this.
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Post by DWS on Jun 18, 2014 8:33:31 GMT
What is left between Barking and Upminster before they start any kind of day time testing/service? I've also noticed some kind of large structure at the end of platform 4 at Upminster (looks like a stairs to a diving board) appear within past two weeks. Does anyone know what this is and why it's only on one platform? The structure on platform 4 is to house the re-sited shunt signal and rail-gap indicator which were mounted at track level and unsighted by S Stock. Signal immunisation is still taking place Upney-Upminster, i think the signal re-sighting has now been completed. Enhancement to power supplies in the longer term are taking place at Upminster Bridge, Hornchurch, Elm Park, Heathway and Upney substations. Hornchurch substation is at Elm Park, when it was built there was no station at Elm Park so it was called Hornchurch substation.
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Post by graeme186 on Jun 18, 2014 13:08:40 GMT
21427/428 forms T244 today 18/06.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 14:17:20 GMT
I've just seen 21425/26 being run out of service so it will probably be entering passenger service soon.
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Post by graeme186 on Jun 25, 2014 20:24:34 GMT
I've just seen 21425/26 being run out of service so it will probably be entering passenger service soon. 21425/426 has been the S7 stabled in Wembley Park Sidings today. Wasn't changed over with another S7 off Neasden Depot during the day which happens on some days. It's distinctly likely it was in passenger service yesterday, stabled in Wembley Park Sidings last night and will be in passenger service tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 7:41:39 GMT
Everything that has been delivered has been in passenger service at some point, 21426/25 being the latest (behind 21428/27). There are now 57 commissioned S7s, along with 3 S7+1s on the Met (and the S8s of course).
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 30, 2014 16:00:27 GMT
At last count 22 S7 trains were in and around that area.
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Post by superteacher on Jul 30, 2014 16:48:53 GMT
Any update on the timescale for S stock operation on the main District line?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 30, 2014 17:33:28 GMT
Any update on the timescale for S stock operation on the main District line? Moving very slowly to possibly peak-hour only workings to Barking around October. With driver training at the east end commencing in early September it is hoped a train (or two) will be able to run to Upminster to help with driving familiarisation, again around October. The new WTT from 14 December should see scheduled trains running to/from Upminster.
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Post by superteacher on Jul 30, 2014 19:35:44 GMT
Thanks. I get the impression that once the S stock is cleared for regular timetabled use on the District main, the pace of introduction will be fairly quick. There are a lot of S stock being held up north at the moment, and there will probably be pressure to get them delivered ASAP. I'm not sure how many S stocks can be delivered before D stock will have to go for scrap in order to make room.
Personally, I can't see many passengers missing the D stock trains. In the recent hot weather, they are being very unfavourably compared to the air conditioned S stock! As far enthusiasts, that's a different matter . . .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 19:39:05 GMT
I think a fair few of the drivers might well be sorry to say goodbye too
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jul 30, 2014 20:40:08 GMT
Thanks. I get the impression that once the S stock is cleared for regular timetabled use on the District main, the pace of introduction will be fairly quick. There are a lot of S stock being held up north at the moment, and there will probably be pressure to get them delivered ASAP. I'm not sure how many S stocks can be delivered before D stock will have to go for scrap in order to make room. Personally, I can't see many passengers missing the D stock trains. In the recent hot weather, they are being very unfavourably compared to the air conditioned S stock! As far enthusiasts, that's a different matter . . . I totally agree with this. A quantum leap forward was welcomed by Metropolitan Line passengers aside from enthusiasts for A stock and the same will happen for D stock. In the real world who would choose to stifle in an old train where something more comfortable was available ?
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Post by superteacher on Jul 30, 2014 20:47:17 GMT
LU will be desperate to announce their all new fully air conditioned trains on the whole of the SSL, which is another reason why they will get rid of the D stock as quickly as is physically possible. Don't get me wrong, I like the D stock, having grown up with them. But as Whistlekiller alluded to, the average punter only cares about getting to their destination and if that can be done in a train not resembling the interior of an oven, then all the better.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 31, 2014 6:15:52 GMT
In the real world who would choose to stifle in an old train where something more comfortable was available ? Depends on your definition of "comfort". Having a seat comes high on many people's list.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 12:01:20 GMT
Any update on the timescale for S stock operation on the main District line? Moving very slowly to possibly peak-hour only workings to Barking around October. With driver training at the east end commencing in early September it is hoped a train (or two) will be able to run to Upminster to help with driving familiarisation, again around October. The new WTT from 14 December should see scheduled trains running to/from Upminster. They are still not yet cleared to run past Upney due to signalling mods still needing to take place I believe on the next lot of weekend shutdowns at the east end this is when the process is going to start to convert the track circuits.
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Post by metman on Jul 31, 2014 16:53:12 GMT
What is the difference in the number of seats between a D and S7?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 31, 2014 17:57:01 GMT
What is the difference in the number of seats between a D and S7? D6 = DM44 (2 tip-up)- T 48 (2 tip-up)- UNDM 48(2 tip-up)+ UNDM 48(2 tip-up)- T 48(2 tip-up)-(2tip-up) 44 DM = 280 (12 tip-up) S7 = DM38 (6 tip-up)- M1 36 (6 tip-up)- M2 36 (6 tip-up)- MS 36 (7 tip-up)- MS 36 (7 tip-up)- M1 36 (6 tip-up)-(6 tip-up) 38 DM = 256 (44 tip-up)
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