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Post by mb2014 on May 2, 2014 14:50:48 GMT
Surely 21001-21002 won't have to go back? It was delivered well after trains started going back for modification. I would be very surprised if they did not do this train before it was re-delivered??
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 2, 2014 14:53:29 GMT
Surely 21001-21002 won't have to go back? It was delivered well after trains started going back for modification. I would be very surprised if they did not do this train before it was re-delivered?? As shown in the S8 Delivery list, 21001/02 Returned from Derby after engineering mods 30/04/2013. |
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Post by mb2014 on May 2, 2014 14:55:34 GMT
Yes but that was the major rebuild from prototype to fleet standard and the list does not make it clear that the additional work was done
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Post by domh245 on May 7, 2014 17:21:25 GMT
I noticed that there haven't been as many s stocks about on the district line as usual today and yesterday. Would this be a side effect of the suspended strike, or is it because of something else?
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Post by rincew1nd on May 7, 2014 18:14:16 GMT
There are all sorts of factors that can affect stock availability, units needing maintenance et cetera. Hopefully the C Stock will be around for a bit longer yet #workhorseOfTheSSR
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Post by rincew1nd on May 7, 2014 20:29:45 GMT
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Post by domh245 on May 11, 2014 16:42:25 GMT
For those that haven't seen the news, the BBC have reported that LU have started an investigation into the incident, with Kevin Bootle saying what the problem was. Remember what rincew1nd posted before responding to this, no speculation etc! |
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Post by londonstuff on May 11, 2014 17:56:43 GMT
For those that haven't seen the news, the BBC have reported that LU have started an investigation into the incident, with Kevin Bootle saying what the problem was. Remember what rincew1nd posted before responding to this, no speculation etc! Yes, I saw this earlier in the day. As Rincew1nd said, kindly no speculating, please. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 22:37:37 GMT
For those that haven't seen the news, the BBC have reported that LU have started an investigation into the incident, with Kevin Bootle saying what the problem was. Remember what rincew1nd posted before responding to this, no speculation etc! Yes, I saw this earlier in the day. As Rincew1nd said, kindly no speculating, please.One thing reported but not commented on in recent weeks is the Wimbleware service interval being 15 mins on Sundays, against the 10 min in the current WTT. Do we know why? Also does anyone know if the morning diversion of C stock to Richmond will happen again tomorrow? Or is that history now? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 12, 2014 2:57:20 GMT
One thing reported but not commented on in recent weeks is the Wimbleware service interval being 15 mins on Sundays, against the 10 min in the current WTT. Do we know why? Also does anyone know if the morning diversion of C stock to Richmond will happen again tomorrow? Â Or is that history now? The Richmond diversion was only for one evening and the next morning. I think the reason for the 15min Wimbledon-Edgware Rd frequency during the recent planned engineering work (not connected to the S7/C problems) was due to both Ealing and Richmond trains providing a 10min (5min combined) service from High Street Ken, track reoccupation time in the High Street area would've been very slow with the usual 10min Wimbledon-Edgware Rd . |
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Post by graeme186 on May 13, 2014 20:31:12 GMT
Noted 21417/418 in service this morning at T230.
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Post by tel on May 15, 2014 9:49:46 GMT
Noted 21419/20 in service yesterday (14/5) pm at Baker Street T231
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Post by kesmet on May 16, 2014 20:38:10 GMT
A question springs to mind, with all of the C stock (not so) slowly being phased out:
When will be the last opportunity to see all 3 District stocks at Earl's Court together (as in, occupying adjacent platforms at the same time)? Or even High Street Kensington or Edgware Road?
Presumably, we've lost any possibility of seeing all subsurface stocks together (S8, S7, D, C and A)?
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Post by domh245 on May 16, 2014 21:00:22 GMT
The only possibility of that last photo op would have been a well timed photo of aldgate junction, including the platforms at aldgate.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 21:10:19 GMT
The only possibility of that last photo op would have been a well timed photo of aldgate junction, including the platforms at aldgate. Now that would have been quite something wouldn't it? One S8 and one A in the two bay roads an H&C S7 from Aldgate East a District D to Aldgate East and a Circle C do you think? You know I'm not sure you could get them all into one shot, but I might just not have the right combination in mind. We you might just be able to manage it without both an S8 and an S7 although I'm still not sure - you'd have to get very lucky if it possible! Edit: I doubt you'd see a D in Edgware Road - them don't go up there! |
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Post by superteacher on May 16, 2014 23:18:47 GMT
Also, the A stock had already gone by the time the S7's started running to Barking, so that picture would gave been impossible unless you were incredibly lucky and found an S7 running past on a test working.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:41:03 GMT
Also, the A stock had already gone by the time the S7's started running to Barking, so that picture would gave been impossible unless you were incredibly lucky and found an S7 running past on a test working. Oh yes! You're quite right, I'd completely failed to connect those dots. I knew they didn't go past Moorgate until December and I knew Moorgate was west of Aldgate and yet...  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:44:41 GMT
Even if the S7s were running to Barking when we still had the As somebody would have to be very lucky to get the timing right to get that photo.
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Post by class411 on May 18, 2014 9:46:16 GMT
To save trying to sift through all the posts in this thread - and possibly miss the most recent update on this, can anyone say when normal working S Stock are going to start being introduced on the Ealing and Richmond services? (I mean the start of regular consistent replacement of D Stock, not a couple of trains working odd duties.)
And what the current target is for complete replacement of D-Stock in normal working.
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Post by superteacher on May 18, 2014 10:18:31 GMT
I think the first hurdle is clearing those routes to enable S stock to run in passenger service. Also, the Upminster based drivers need to be trained on them.
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Post by class411 on May 18, 2014 10:37:44 GMT
I think the first hurdle is clearing those routes to enable S stock to run in passenger service. Also, the Upminster based drivers need to be trained on them. I dare say, but I presume LU aren't 'winging it', and have a schedule in place. There is some sort of timetable in this thread but it may well be out of date. I'm hoping someone has a rough idea of when things are happening. |
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Post by superteacher on May 18, 2014 11:01:02 GMT
There was a post on here somewhere that mentioned that no D stock is expected to go for scrap until early next year.
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Post by A60stock on May 20, 2014 14:36:52 GMT
out of interest, why doesnt the d stock go to edgware road now? now that platforms have been extended why cant they send some d stock there still? the d stock can essentially work the whole line now and u would be able to get rid of the remaining c stock!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 14:42:58 GMT
out of interest, why doesnt the d stock go to edgware road now? now that platforms have been extended why cant they send some d stock there still? the d stock can essentially work the whole line now and u would be able to get rid of the remaining c stock! Hmmmm I'm pretty sure that if platforms like Notting Hill Gate have been lengthened (and I'm not sure they ever were - so expensive, so impractical), they haven't been lengthened enough for the D stock - all doors on the rear car of the S7 do not open at Notting Hill Gate Outer Rail/eastbound and I'm sure as many or nearly as many at the front. D stock I think has end door cut out doesn't it, but I don't think you can cut out enough of your doors for the whole High Street - Edgware section. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 20, 2014 16:13:39 GMT
out of interest, why doesn't the D stock go to edgware road now? now that platforms have been extended why cant they send some d stock there still? the D stock can essentially work the whole line now and u would be able to get rid of the remaining C stock! Hmmmm I'm pretty sure that if platforms like Notting Hill Gate have been lengthened (and I'm not sure they ever were - so expensive, so impractical), they haven't been lengthened enough for the D stock - all doors on the rear car of the S7 do not open at Notting Hill Gate Outer Rail/eastbound and I'm sure as many or nearly as many at the front. D stock I think has end door cut out doesn't it, but I don't think you can cut out enough of your doors for the whole High Street - Edgware section. The platform lengths weren't altered to allow S7 operation, platform end equipment was relocated at some stations. S7 Stock are 6metres longer than D Stock and yes, D Stock lack the ability to keep enough doors closed while using the platform mounted OPO equipment, something the S7 Stock don't use as they have in-cab CCTV and SDO operation on the front & rear 3 double-doors. D Stock can work into platform 2 at High Street Kensington. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 23:06:09 GMT
out of interest, why doesn't the D stock go to edgware road now? now that platforms have been extended why cant they send some d stock there still? the D stock can essentially work the whole line now and u would be able to get rid of the remaining C stock! Hmmmm I'm pretty sure that if platforms like Notting Hill Gate have been lengthened (and I'm not sure they ever were - so expensive, so impractical), they haven't been lengthened enough for the D stock - all doors on the rear car of the S7 do not open at Notting Hill Gate Outer Rail/eastbound and I'm sure as many or nearly as many at the front. D stock I think has end door cut out doesn't it, but I don't think you can cut out enough of your doors for the whole High Street - Edgware section. The platform lengths weren't altered to allow S7 operation, platform end equipment was relocated at some stations. S7 Stock are 6metres longer than D Stock and yes, D Stock lack the ability to keep enough doors closed while using the platform mounted OPO equipment, something the S7 Stock don't use as they have in-cab CCTV and SDO operation on the front & rear 3 double-doors. D Stock can work into platform 2 at High Street Kensington. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 19:59:05 GMT
Re: the incident on the Wimbledon road, does anybody know what happened to the trains involved. That is, the damage looked fairly moderate - were either of them sent back to Derby, or were they repaired in London? Are they back in service now, or are they still being repaired, or undergoing checks/tests? Naturally, as usual, no speculation please  |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 22:29:41 GMT
I think one of them is going back to Derby, would somebody be able to pm me which trains were involved? (I've keeping track of which units I've been on if it's any units I haven't been on then I will know not to look for them)
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Post by crusty54 on Jun 2, 2014 19:44:29 GMT
When will S7s start replacing D stock?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 20:16:22 GMT
I think in December or January, why is 21381/82 on the test track with car 23514 in the formation, would it be easier to wait until all the S8 mods are done before getting the 3 S6s on the test track?
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