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Post by Colin on Feb 9, 2014 2:27:27 GMT
No, there are still C series trains on the Circle today. You appear to disagree with what I posted - you do realise that Monday 10th February 2014, that date to which I was referring to, hasn't arrived yet don't you? The information comes from the Traffic Circular, which is complied & printed weeks in advance (hence my saying no guarantees), and the entry refers to to four S stocks being required to see off the C stocks on the H&C/Circles. There was some disruption today with several signal failures, Hammersmith (W/B District) went down during the evening period too - as a result I'm sure Aspect would be pleased to hear of my cheeky east to west Hornchurch reverse
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 9, 2014 8:00:45 GMT
Now for the interesting bit and to record it for historical purposes! Owing to no serviceable C stock being available, set 74 was formed of S stock. This makes it the first S to run on a *normal* District line set working. Units 21317 and 21318 worked set 74 from 1200 until 2020. Yesterday (Friday) set 753 worked a couple of Wimbledon - High Street Kensington trips, whilst 754 worked a Barking - Wimbledon - Barking (also formed of 21317+21318.) I rarely use the Wimbledon branch but I have done three times in the last couple of days, so disappointed to miss the historic event - although I probably had my last-ever C stock runs so historic anyway! I left Earls Court about 1945 - where would it have been around then? (I did notice a lot of disruption - most trains seemed to be going to "Check front of Train" - I somethimes think I should move there, it often seems to get a better service than anywhere else!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 9, 2014 9:21:33 GMT
I left Earls Court about 1945 - where would it have been around then? At that precise time it was at Temple EB heading back to Barking.
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Post by Antje on Feb 9, 2014 14:13:30 GMT
No, there are still C series trains on the Circle today. You appear to disagree with what I posted - you do realise that Monday 10th February 2014, that date to which I was referring to, hasn't arrived yet don't you? The information comes from the Traffic Circular, which is complied & printed weeks in advance (hence my saying no guarantees), and the entry refers to to four S stocks being required to see off the C stocks on the H&C/Circles. I slipped up by accident because the following, sorry: is tomorrow ment to be the last day of the C stock on Circle and Hammersmith then? I always thought that new arrangements would start at weekends so that the management could get another chance to make final checks.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Feb 10, 2014 13:41:44 GMT
T71 is S Stock today as aspect said. Travelled from Southfields to Earl's Court this morning and it seemed as if no one noticed or cared! Pictures and videos to follow later today.
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Post by malcolmffc on Feb 10, 2014 15:07:24 GMT
T71 is S Stock today as <b>aspect</b> said. Travelled from Southfields to Earl's Court this morning and it seemed as if no one noticed or cared! Pictures and videos to follow later today. The WIM branch passengers will care once they can't easily tell the City and Edgware Rd trains apart any more!
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Post by domh245 on Feb 10, 2014 16:00:08 GMT
An S has just gone past me outside Wimbledon as train 075. Have they reformed it today, or is it a second one?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Feb 10, 2014 20:04:09 GMT
There were delays on the Circle line around 6pm. I was at High Street Kensington waiting for T71 to go to Wimbledon and it was quite late. There was also a C Stock in the Triangle Sidings.
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Post by t697 on Feb 10, 2014 20:08:18 GMT
The WIM branch passengers will care once they can't easily tell the City and Edgware Rd trains apart any more! I expect they'll relearn their reading and listening skills to find out from the numerous announcements and the CIS displays inside and out!
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 10, 2014 21:18:55 GMT
T71 is S Stock today as <b>aspect</b> said. Travelled from Southfields to Earl's Court this morning and it seemed as if no one noticed or cared! Pictures and videos to follow later today. The WIM branch passengers will care once they can't easily tell the City and Edgware Rd trains apart any more! I suspect that the vast majority of them probably can't tell the difference between a C and a D stock anyway. I often think that, as railway enthusiasts, we tend to imbue the travelling public with the same level of interest in, and recognition of what they step onto as we enjoy when in actual fact, most of them don't know and furthermore, care even less as long as it doesn't break down. According to my Dad, my late Mother was incapable of differentiating a CO/CP from an R despite the colour difference but would rely on the age old tactic of checking the map and actually looking at the destination depicted on the train to work out where to go in town.....and all this whilst talking non-stop about nothing-in-particular. Not exactly rocket science for her and I doubt things are any different now! I should say that I did begin to believe people were waiting for an S instead of a C a while back but then that's probably just my own prejudice playing games on my mind!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 22:15:20 GMT
Announcement at Wimbledon this morning as an S stock came in. "The train at platform 3 IS an Edgware Road train - don't be put off". Years of dealing with C stock obviously left regular commuters suspicious of such a shiny new train.
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Post by Colin on Feb 11, 2014 0:02:45 GMT
An S has just gone past me outside Wimbledon as train 075. Have they reformed it today, or is it a second one? 75 was a bonus extra
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 0:41:18 GMT
An S has just gone past me outside Wimbledon as train 075. Have they reformed it today, or is it a second one? 75 was a bonus extra yup 75 was swapped over to an S during the afternoon as the line gained an extra one for use. The C in Triangle was the original 75, standing by to resume its path later in the evening as the S was required to end the day at Barking Sidings. 71 was S all day, the displaced C was at Parsons Green in case it needed to step back into the 71 slot, though in the event it was used to replace the C on 70 which was withdrawn defective and sent to Hammersmith.
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Post by class411 on Feb 11, 2014 8:20:09 GMT
The WIM branch passengers will care once they can't easily tell the City and Edgware Rd trains apart any more! I suspect that the vast majority of them probably can't tell the difference between a C and a D stock anyway. I often think that, as railway enthusiasts, we tend to imbue the travelling public with the same level of interest in, and recognition of what they step onto as we enjoy when in actual fact, most of them don't know and furthermore, care even less as long as it doesn't break down. According to my Dad, my late Mother was incapable of differentiating a CO/CP from an R despite the colour difference but would rely on the age old tactic of checking the map and actually looking at the destination depicted on the train to work out where to go in town.....and all this whilst talking non-stop about nothing-in-particular. Not exactly rocket science for her and I doubt things are any different now! Many years ago I got talking to someone on a late night train from Victoria which was severely delayed by snow. It transpired that he had been commuting from Ramsgate to Victoria for over thirty years. Eventually, TPTB decided, for some unknown reason, to shorten the train and 'passengers in the rear four cars should make their way to the front of the train'. As we walked towards the front set it became clear that my companion (who was clearly a perfectly intelligent person) could not tell where one set ended and another started. Over thirty years travelling and it it had never impinged on his conciousness that the ends of EMU sets were painted bright yellow!
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Post by domh245 on Feb 11, 2014 14:48:46 GMT
Train 75 seems to be s stock again, having just passed it at east Putney, or is this one of the training runs?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Feb 11, 2014 14:57:58 GMT
It's running in the path of Train 75 but the train number appearing on the train says 753.
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Post by graeme186 on Feb 12, 2014 11:56:34 GMT
21407/408 forms T244. Meant to say I saw 21405/406 in the South Shunting Neck at Neasden two days ago.
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Post by domh245 on Feb 12, 2014 16:06:40 GMT
All these people who think that your average punter don't realise the difference, you'd be wrong. I arrived into Wimbledon across from an s stock operating train 75 and quite a number of people went across from the c stock and wentn for a novel walk along the s stock commenting about the temperature and walk through, and I heard others talking about his it was a new different train and how it was so cool
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 23, 2014 11:21:18 GMT
S7s have today officially taken on 3 District Line Wimbledon-Edgware Road workings, with a 4th to be added later today.
Just 4 daily C Stock workings remain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 19:36:29 GMT
What will be the next part of the District line to get S7s after the C stocks have gone?
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Post by domh245 on Mar 1, 2014 19:47:55 GMT
As the wimbledon branch is already enabled, that'll probably start to see the first city services to tower hill and possibly barking. I'd imagine the routes to Ealing Broadway and upminster will be enabled first, and Richmond last, but whilst these are being enabled but I suspect a big priority at the moment is getting the depots and the routes to and from them enabled, considering how little space there is at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 13:59:16 GMT
As the wimbledon branch is already enabled, that'll probably start to see the first city services to tower hill and possibly barking. I'd imagine the routes to Ealing Broadway and upminster will be enabled first, and Richmond last, but whilst these are being enabled but I suspect a big priority at the moment is getting the depots and the routes to and from them enabled, considering how little space there is at the moment Gunnersbury on the Richmond branch looks to have been enabled for quite a while, for example the Station ID Pillars have been installed for nearly a year, along with the S7 Stopping Marks. Have there been any test S7's run down the Richmond Branch? Is the Richmond branch going to be the last to have its stock replaced? Ta, Tom
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 4, 2014 16:05:02 GMT
Have there been any test S7's run down the Richmond Branch? Is the Richmond branch going to be the last to have its stock replaced? Ta, Tom There have been recent runs to Richmond in engineering hours, repeating those completed last year. Progress is still being made on infrastructure fitting to both Ealing & Richmond branches, consisting of: moving existing signals for better sighting; installing new cameras- S Stock need these on all platforms; position detectors; moving platform barriers; raising platform edges to meet S7 car floor. I expect both branches to be available simultaneously.
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Post by domh245 on Mar 4, 2014 16:25:11 GMT
Have there been any test S7's run down the Richmond Branch? Is the Richmond branch going to be the last to have its stock replaced? Ta, Tom There have been recent runs to Richmond in engineering hours, repeating those completed last year. Progress is still being made on infrastructure fitting to both Ealing & Richmond branches, consisting of: moving existing signals for better sighting; installing new cameras- S Stock need these on all platforms; position detectors; moving platform barriers; raising platform edges to meet S7 car floor. I expect both branches to be available simultaneously. I've seen somewhere that the Ealing Broadway and Upminster Routes will be enabled first around July/August and then the Richmond branch a month later, around September. Has the Richmond branch become easier to enable, or have the Ealing/Upminster branches slipped behind, or was this just information that was just a rough idea?
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Post by Ben on Mar 5, 2014 1:05:03 GMT
Will any S7 stopping marks appear at South Ealing or Northfields?
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Post by paulsw2 on Mar 5, 2014 4:46:14 GMT
As the wimbledon branch is already enabled, that'll probably start to see the first city services to tower hill and possibly barking. I'd imagine the routes to Ealing Broadway and upminster will be enabled first, and Richmond last, but whilst these are being enabled but I suspect a big priority at the moment is getting the depots and the routes to and from them enabled, considering how little space there is at the moment It depends on how quickly they can train the T/Ops Earls Court is nearly completed Acton is starting to train their T/Ops so that will enable the C stocks to retire once we are all trained then the East end Depots Barking & Upminster have to be trained until then it will be unlikely to see them on city services because if an S stock arrives at a relief point and the relief driver is not S stock trained it will cause chaos.
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Post by graeme186 on Mar 6, 2014 12:15:19 GMT
21411/21412 forms T232 this morning the 06th March. Passed it a little earlier at Farringdon.
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Post by domh245 on Mar 6, 2014 19:29:53 GMT
There seemed to be a lot more s7s out on the district today, or at least running on trains which should have been c stock. Also this morning, the train I was on had a bit of a juddery stop at Fulham Broadway, emergency brake short of the mark. Pull forward and brake again, and then eventually pull forward and stop (gently this time) but when I got out and had a look at the train, what i assume to be the deicing light (white light on the outside of one of the cars) was on. Can anyone inform me why this was. It took a while to get moving again, so could it have been a PEA activation, the whight light signifying the car in which the alarm had been activated?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 19:35:47 GMT
I have two questions. First, there was a S7 sitting in Ealing common which is not visible anymore. Anyone have any ideas where it has gone?
Second, at Acton town there are S7 stop boards on the Piccadilly line platforms with new equipment at track level. Any ideas why this is, or what sort of equipment there would be?
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Post by metman on Mar 6, 2014 20:11:55 GMT
I'm sure the White light is a PEA activation on the S stock.
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