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Post by motorman on Sept 27, 2013 21:07:32 GMT
Think you might mean DERBY!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 21:23:56 GMT
Yes, I'm no good at spelling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 9:12:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 9:42:05 GMT
Does anyone know how close the rest of the District Line is from being cleared for S7 working?
I'm wondering whether there will be one passenger training slot from Upminster (like the West Ham - Olympia working) ahead of full introduction.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 10:01:20 GMT
Reading Octobers modern railways there's a few bits about LU, 34tph on the Central line and further S7 Introduction but something which caught my eye was that the circle & Hammersmith line managers and the district line managers had a bit of rivalry with the first S7 in service. Is it true hope so funny little anecdote .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 13:52:58 GMT
I like the fact that there's a little competition between line managers. It can only be a good thing that they care about their jobs.
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Post by tel on Sept 28, 2013 16:16:27 GMT
Understand from another source that from 1st October the number of S7 diagrams (SX) on both the Circle and Hammersmith & City increases by one each to five and ten respectively. Presumably the existing duties will increase by one each, can anybody advise the additional duties (or even Train Numbers) please?
Many thanks in advance
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 17:47:50 GMT
Understand from another source that from 1st October the number of S7 diagrams (SX) on both the Circle and Hammersmith & City increases by one each to five and ten respectively. Presumably the existing duties will increase by one each, can anybody advise the additional duties (or even Train Numbers) please? Many thanks in advance Its also being increased in the weekend as well. |
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Post by tel on Oct 1, 2013 17:31:23 GMT
Although not a good day due to the signal failure at Tower Hill this morning I did note two possible new train numbers formed of S7s at Barbican today. Services were still recovering mid afternoon!
Candidates were T/N 203 and T/N 234.
Can anyone confirm that these were the two new workings for S7s commencing today 1.10.13.
Many thanks in advance
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Post by tel on Oct 1, 2013 17:34:35 GMT
Although not a good day due to the signal failure at Tower Hill this morning I did note two possible new train numbers formed of S7s at Barbican today. Services were still recovering mid afternoon! Candidates were T/N 203 and T/N 234. Can anyone confirm that these were the two new workings for S7s commencing today 1.10.13. Many thanks in advance Apologies. T/N 203 should read T/N 201. Put it dwon to finger trouble or a senior moment |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 18:51:15 GMT
Although not a good day due to the signal failure at Tower Hill this morning I did note two possible new train numbers formed of S7s at Barbican today. Services were still recovering mid afternoon! Candidates were T/N 203 and T/N 234. Can anyone confirm that these were the two new workings for S7s commencing today 1.10.13. Many thanks in advance Apologies. T/N 203 should read T/N 201. Put it dwon to finger trouble or a senior moment Circle 5x: 200, 201,203,207,214 Hammersmith & City line 10x: 230,232, 234,236,240,241,242,243,245,261 Misc: 245, 247,252,255,256,257, 263Those underlined are the new workings. |
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Post by tel on Oct 1, 2013 19:20:09 GMT
Apologies. T/N 203 should read T/N 201. Put it dwon to finger trouble or a senior moment Circle 5x: 200, 201,203,207,214 Hammersmith & City line 10x: 230,232, 234,236,240,241,242,243,245,261 Misc: 245, 247,252,255,256,257, 263Those underlined are the new workings. Many thanks - Reply very much appreciated. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 20:06:45 GMT
What's the full number list on the H&C line?
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Post by domh245 on Oct 1, 2013 20:12:21 GMT
Do you mean as Train operating numbers, or as Actual S7 numbers (eg 21301/21302)? If it is the train operating numbers, then see JulianG's post above
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 20:29:39 GMT
Operating numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 22:40:21 GMT
Circle: 200-207,210-217,260 H&C: 230-237,240-245,261 |
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Post by tel on Oct 2, 2013 7:58:03 GMT
What's the full number list on the H&C line? 230-237, 240-245 and 261. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2013 9:29:15 GMT
Apologies. T/N 203 should read T/N 201. Put it dwon to finger trouble or a senior moment Circle 5x: 200, 201,203,207,214 Hammersmith & City line 10x: 230,232, 234,236,240,241,242,243,245,261 Misc: 245, 247,252,255,256,257, 263Those underlined are the new workings. Where/when are the misc numbers used? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2013 10:00:28 GMT
Circle 5x: 200, 201,203,207,214 Hammersmith & City line 10x: 230,232, 234,236,240,241,242,243,245,261 Misc: 245, 247,252,255,256,257, 263Those underlined are the new workings. Where/when are the misc numbers used? The misc numbers are changeover trains and are generally used in the evening. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 13:04:04 GMT
Is T244 meant to be a S stock, I've just been on it and on the last page it was noted as a C stock?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:06:31 GMT
There were severe delays on the H&C earlier on so the unit was reformed to work on that service.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 17:29:40 GMT
Ah ok, I've heard from a member of staff that both circle and H&C lines will go all S stock in December this year, that can't be right can it?
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Post by malcolmffc on Oct 7, 2013 6:42:51 GMT
Given the rate of C-stock withdrawals (3 last week) and the fact that so many S Stock are built and ready to be released in service, I think that is highly achievable. The H&C is already two-thirds S stock on some days.
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Post by class411 on Oct 7, 2013 7:45:00 GMT
All of which presumably implies that we will see an ever more noticeable presence of S stock on the district line from the new year.
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Post by domh245 on Oct 7, 2013 7:55:20 GMT
The district should have the Wimbledon branch cleared for February, by which point there is a minimum number of S7s in service of 32, ie the whole C&H must be S7. But train 753 might start running from Parson's Green before that,
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Post by class411 on Oct 7, 2013 11:10:33 GMT
The district should have the Wimbledon branch cleared for February " Cleared? Surely they are not going to completely suspend service whilst waiting for new stock. What's 'C&H'? Did you type Hammersmith and City backwards or is it supposed to imply Hammersmith & City plus Circle? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 11:32:26 GMT
I think cleared means the new trains are able to run in passenger service and C&H means both H&C and circle lines.
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Post by class411 on Oct 7, 2013 15:35:07 GMT
I think cleared means the new trains are able to run in passenger service and C&H means both H&C and circle lines. Thanks. I thought that part of the District line had already had S stock running on it - or is that just is some sort of 'test' mode as part of the process of getting it authorised for passenger use? I got the impression from an earlier post that they were starting to introduce S Stock on the District line before the HCC was completely updated but I could have got hold of the wrong end of the stick. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 15:55:31 GMT
There is one on the District line for driver training between West Ham and Earl's Court, how do the train ops set the doors to hold open at stations instead of auto close after 45 seconds?
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Post by domh245 on Oct 7, 2013 16:27:43 GMT
Yes, by cleared I mean they have the necessary infrastructure, eg the Track to Train CCTV transmitters, the stop boards etc, for the train to be able to run in service. Currently the services operating to Parson's Green are running out of service, primarily to ensure that the sidings and other infrastructure are compatible, but when the paperwork can be signed off for West Brompton, Fulham Broadway, and Parsons Green, then they can run trains in service over that stretch of track. The current train, which is used for T/Op training, can run in service on the District as there is the necessary infrastructure. And yes, by C&H and do mean "Circle & Hammersmith and City" which is slightly better than H&C&C or H&C. As for the doors, I think that there is an option in the TMCS when the doors are open, which overrules the automatic door closing.
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