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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 7, 2013 19:46:19 GMT
I thought that part of the District line had already had S stock running on it - or is that just is some sort of 'test' mode as part of the process of getting it authorised for passenger use? I got the impression from an earlier post that they were starting to introduce S Stock on the District line before the HCC was completely updated but I could have got hold of the wrong end of the stick. I think it depends on which stick you are holding, it's all a bit of a mush as a result of different "Lines" sharing the same "tracks". My current understanding of the S Stock on the SSR is: - Metropolitan Line - Introduction complete
- Circle and Hammersmith & City Line(s) - Could run an all S Stock service tomorrow if they had the stock and enough trained Operators. Tick Tock.
- District Line - Testing, Training and Tweaking is ongoing. The Wimbleware service isn't that far off being finished, Olympia is fine, just the outer reaches to sort out. But you can't run trains unless you've got trained Operators, so there's some training paths knocking about on the bits of the route that are fine.
So yes the District "already had S stock running on it", but there's still a bit of work to be done yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 13:01:23 GMT
Why does 21301/02 have one grey DMI when all the others are black (it's the one on the west end of the train when on the upper circle)?
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Post by tel on Oct 8, 2013 18:15:31 GMT
21365/6 observed on T/N 261 this evening at Barbican. (? First day in service ? Very clean inside and out) Has anybody seen 21363/4 yet please?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 18:43:39 GMT
21365/6 observed on T/N 261 this evening at Barbican. (? First day in service ? Very clean inside and out) Has anybody seen 21363/4 yet please? 21363/364 was in service on the District last week.
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Post by mb2014 on Oct 11, 2013 16:18:14 GMT
Why is unit 21345/21346 still outstanding when deliveries have reached 21370?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 19:18:32 GMT
Why is unit 21345/21346 still outstanding when deliveries have reached 21370? I want to know as well, also there has been two deliveries this week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 20:40:08 GMT
Yes, two deliveries this week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2013 13:56:19 GMT
I've just been at bow road and the last three sets of doors haven't opened, it that because the driver didn't park in the right place?
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 14, 2013 19:20:02 GMT
I've just been at bow road and the last three sets of doors haven't opened, it that because the driver didn't park in the right place? Final car on an eastbound Circle Line train at Baker Street today. The announcement was that none of the doors would open (all three).
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Post by domh245 on Oct 14, 2013 19:24:52 GMT
That will always happen at Baker Street because the platforms are too short for the train and so they SDO is in use. At Bow Road (correct me if I'm wrong) but the platform is long enough for all the doors to open, so normally the do all open. The situation spinba11 describes sounds like the driver missed the stopping mark, and so in order to get a door release, they had to use the emergency (I think) door open, which cuts out the front 3 and rear 3 doors, without notice. The T/Op should probably leave a bit longer for passengers to disembark from the cars without any open doors, but sometimes they don't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 19:28:53 GMT
I know about Baker Street etc, I was just wondering why it happens at station where the platform is long enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 21:02:44 GMT
I know about Baker Street etc, I was just wondering why it happens at station where the platform is long enough. Domh245 already mentioned in his post the reason.
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Post by class411 on Oct 15, 2013 7:30:51 GMT
Is a driver not allowed to reverse a train even a couple of feet without all sorts of special permissions?
I don't ever recollect seeing an in service underground train going backwards. (Out of service one who's to say what's backwards?)
"The situation spinba11 describes sounds like the driver missed the stopping mark, and so in order to get a door release, they had to use the emergency (I think) door open, which cuts out the front 3 and rear 3 doors, without notice"
Should an announcement not be mandatory in those circumstances?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 7:53:09 GMT
Is a driver not allowed to reverse a train even a couple of feet without all sorts of special permissions? I don't ever recollect seeing an in service underground train going backwards. (Out of service one who's to say what's backwards?) "The situation spinba11 describes sounds like the driver missed the stopping mark, and so in order to get a door release, they had to use the emergency (I think) door open, which cuts out the front 3 and rear 3 doors, without notice" Should an announcement not be mandatory in those circumstances? Yes, an announcement should normally be made. There was this one time when i was on the 'S7' on the Circle, where the driver had to reverse a little bit.
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Post by domh245 on Oct 15, 2013 16:24:22 GMT
I've once been on a C stock that started to motor backwards at Parsons Green. Cue Emergency Break whoosh...
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Post by class411 on Oct 23, 2013 9:17:27 GMT
Six trips on the H&C over the past few days and all were on C Stock. There was plenty of S Stock in evidence, though.
Waiting at Victoria for a Hammersmith train there were two S Stocks in succession. The first was marked Circle Line, the second, something I don't ever recollect seeing at Victoria was shown on the describer as 'Parson's Green'.
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Post by domh245 on Oct 23, 2013 15:25:30 GMT
Six trips on the H&C over the past few days and all were on C Stock. There was plenty of S Stock in evidence, though. Waiting at Victoria for a Hammersmith train there were two S Stocks in succession. The first was marked Circle Line, the second, something I don't ever recollect seeing at Victoria was shown on the describer as 'Parson's Green'. I'm guessing you mean Hammersmith D&P as opposed to Hammersmith H&C. As for the second S stock, I'm guessing that this was train 753, running to Olympia. As for the Train Describer, that is probably just the system showing it's age.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 15:28:11 GMT
Six trips on the H&C over the past few days and all were on C Stock. There was plenty of S Stock in evidence, though. Waiting at Victoria for a Hammersmith train there were two S Stocks in succession. The first was marked Circle Line, the second, something I don't ever recollect seeing at Victoria was shown on the describer as 'Parson's Green'. I'm guessing you mean Hammersmith D&P as opposed to Hammersmith H&C. As for the second S stock, I'm guessing that this was train 753, running to Olympia. As for the Train Describer, that is probably just the system showing it's age. T753 has been running empty to Parsons Green [from Earl's Court] recently
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Post by domh245 on Oct 23, 2013 15:31:31 GMT
But then wouldn't it have show up on the system as "not in service" or even Earls Court, if it were running in service as far as there
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 16:23:00 GMT
But then wouldn't it have show up on the system as "not in service" or even Earls Court, if it were running in service as far as there It'll probably show up as Earl's Court on the Dot Matrix
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Post by class411 on Oct 23, 2013 17:56:11 GMT
Six trips on the H&C over the past few days and all were on C Stock. There was plenty of S Stock in evidence, though. Waiting at Victoria for a Hammersmith train there were two S Stocks in succession. The first was marked Circle Line, the second, something I don't ever recollect seeing at Victoria was shown on the describer as 'Parson's Green'. I'm guessing you mean Hammersmith D&P as opposed to Hammersmith H&C. As for the second S stock, I'm guessing that this was train 753, running to Olympia. As for the Train Describer, that is probably just the system showing it's age. The first sentence referred to the H&C (trips to and from Shepherd's Bush Market). The second sentence did, indeed, refer to Hammersmith D&P, from whence I caught a train on the Hammersmith H&C.
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Post by tel on Nov 5, 2013 18:49:17 GMT
Popped out today to day a survey of S stock on the Circle and H&C.
On the Circle S stock was observed on T/n 200/201/202/203/205/206/207/210/214 and 216 That's a total of 10. There were 5 trains formed of C stock and I didn't wait for T/n 260
On the H&C T/n 230-236 and 241-245 were S stock. 237 was C stock, 240 didn't show and the 700 pm working to/from Moorgate was carrying T/n 261 and was formed of S stock
Also T/n 753 was running with S stock 21341/2
Recently delivered S7s 21363/4 to 21375/6 were seen in service amongst the above.
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Post by class411 on Nov 6, 2013 8:04:03 GMT
Popped out today to day a survey of S stock on the Circle and H&C. On the Circle S stock was observed on T/n 200/201/202/203/205/206/207/210/214 and 216 That's a total of 10. There were 5 trains formed of C stock and I didn't wait for T/n 260 On the H&C T/n 230-236 and 241-245 were S stock. 237 was C stock, 240 didn't show and the 700 pm working to/from Moorgate was carrying T/n 261 and was formed of S stock Also T/n 753 was running with S stock 21341/2 Recently delivered S7s 21363/4 to 21375/6 were seen in service amongst the above. Can you interpret that, please? i.e. How many complete trains of each type did you see on each line. Don't forget that people reading these posts have varying degrees of knowledge and I, for example, have no idea what these three digit numbers refer to. The ratio of observed S/C stock on the H&C would be most interesting as a couple of weeks ago it seemed to be about 50/50 and, as I said in an earlier post, I made six journeys and they were all C Stock.
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Post by tel on Nov 6, 2013 9:17:41 GMT
Popped out today to day a survey of S stock on the Circle and H&C. On the Circle S stock was observed on T/n 200/201/202/203/205/206/207/210/214 and 216 That's a total of 10. There were 5 trains formed of C stock and I didn't wait for T/n 260 On the H&C T/n 230-236 and 241-245 were S stock. 237 was C stock, 240 didn't show and the 700 pm working to/from Moorgate was carrying T/n 261 and was formed of S stock Also T/n 753 was running with S stock 21341/2 Recently delivered S7s 21363/4 to 21375/6 were seen in service amongst the above. Can you interpret that, please? i.e. How many complete trains of each type did you see on each line. Don't forget that people reading these posts have varying degrees of knowledge and I, for example, have no idea what these three digit numbers refer to. The ratio of observed S/C stock on the H&C would be most interesting as a couple of weeks ago it seemed to be about 50/50 and, as I said in an earlier post, I made six journeys and they were all C Stock. No problem. Circle S7=10, C=6, Not seen 1,T/n 260 H&C S7=13*, C=1, Not seen 1. * This assumes that T/n 700 masqurading as 261, seen at Barbican, actually worked T/n 261 later. The three character numbers are the train numbers, These are clearly exhibited on the front and rear of the train in the centre door on C stock. On the S stock the appear in roughly the same position but above the centre door. These numbers are featured throught LUL Working timetables which are available 'on line'. HTH - Hope this helps'
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Post by class411 on Nov 6, 2013 11:39:34 GMT
Can you interpret that, please? i.e. How many complete trains of each type did you see on each line. Don't forget that people reading these posts have varying degrees of knowledge and I, for example, have no idea what these three digit numbers refer to. The ratio of observed S/C stock on the H&C would be most interesting as a couple of weeks ago it seemed to be about 50/50 and, as I said in an earlier post, I made six journeys and they were all C Stock. No problem. Circle S7=10, C=6, Not seen 1,T/n 260 H&C S7=13*, C=1, Not seen 1. * This assumes that T/n 700 masqurading as 261, seen at Barbican, actually worked T/n 261 later. The three character numbers are the train numbers, These are clearly exhibited on the front and rear of the train in the centre door on C stock. On the S stock the appear in roughly the same position but above the centre door. These numbers are featured throught LUL Working timetables which are available 'on line'. HTH - Hope this helps' Thanks. I've been wondering what those numbers were for some time. This implies a really massive change in the last fortnight since I made 6 H&C journeys over 5 days and all were C stock. (I think it was a bit of an statistical anomaly, though, as I saw a lot of S stock working and stabled.)
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Post by domh245 on Nov 20, 2013 18:43:16 GMT
The stop boards have now gone up on all Platforms at Wimbledon, but something that I have noticed is that some of them are noticeably shorter than the standard stop board, particularly Platform 2, which has looks a bit like this:
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Are these temporary? because they do look a bit peculiar (even more so with that blue mesh thing wrapped around the bottom (which is there for safety, So I'm guessing it's not going to be replaced any time soon)
Also, on the topic of Stop Boards, why is it that those installed later (South Circle and Later) are a different shade of yellow (like this) whilst those elsewhere are a more yellow-y yellow (like this)?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 19:28:55 GMT
The stop boards have now gone up on all Platforms at Wimbledon, but something that I have noticed is that some of them are noticeably shorter than the standard stop board, particularly Platform 2, which has looks a bit like this: | >>>>>> S|7 | Are these temporary? because they do look a bit peculiar (even more so with that blue mesh thing wrapped around the bottom (which is there for safety, So I'm guessing it's not going to be replaced any time soon) Also, on the topic of Stop Boards, why is it that those installed later (South Circle and Later) are a different shade of yellow ( like this) whilst those elsewhere are a more yellow-y yellow ( like this)? These Reduced length Chevrons at Wimbledon Pfm 2/4 enable unobstructed access from the cab to the platform. The Chevrons have been installed at Wimbledon very recently.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 21, 2013 8:39:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 14:16:22 GMT
From the timetable change which I think is next Sunday how many S stock will be on each line?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 28, 2013 21:55:38 GMT
From the timetable change which I think is next Sunday how many S stock will be on each line? Additional S7 workings from 8 Dec: H&C: +1(=15+1peak)M-F, (=13)SAT, +1(=14)SUN. Circle: +3(=9+1peak)M-F, +2(=7)SAT, +2(=8)SUN.
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