S stock delivery & introduction - discussion

The S Stock have been in service along the top half of the Circle for it must be nearly a year now (as Met trains obviously, not as a Circle or H&C service). Or am I missing what you mean? They can now run across the whole of the Metropolitan Line.

It must be getting to the stage now where there are more S Stocks than A Stocks.

Have the problems with it been ironed out at Neasden? Or is it still troublesome?

Seemed to be about a 60%/40% split today in favour of 'A' Stock.

I was thinking earlier that some of the outstanding 'S' Stock Units still to be delivered such as 21025 and 21033 must have been built a year or so ago now. I wouldn't be surprised if someone was to tell me that virtually all of the S8 fleet have been built by Bombardier now unless they have slowed down the production line because of all the outstanding deliveries. Can't see that happening though.

I really do believe that once deliveries re-start, it will be two S8's a week.

Sadly yes should it occur but I'm certainly not in a position to say whether it will or whether it won't. Of course, it could be that some weeks an S8 and an S7 turn up if it's the intention to introduce some S7s into passenger service in a few months time.

A mate of mine told me yesterday that he saw a S stock carriage on the back of a lorry at Toddington Services heading towards London . he didnt see the number as it was covered up. Any idea what carriage it could be?

he said it was articulated
ill speak to him about it when i can and see if he was mistaken

He also said it was only 1 carriage

thats what i was thinking

One thing is that there is no point bringing one carriage to neasden by rail and he said on one side, the articulated part was attatched

Yes, I had the 'S6' did go by road. I didn't know the PP S stock are back at Derby? There is a train at Neasden with stickers all over the windows.

On the subject of the S7s, has training started yet for the Hammersmith & City Drivers/Operators? What about the Circle and the District?

H&C and Circle Operators are one-and-the-same, they work both Lines.
I understand that H&C Instructor Operators may now be S trained but training for all others starts in "spring".

The trains will initially go onto the H&C followed by the Circle, for infrastructure reasons

District are a long way off yet.

CIrcle and H&C, in the new timetable, are largely self contained, unlike the previous timetable where they were interworked. Some Circle line trins begin life as H&C's from Barking sidings though, and this has been the case for many years.

There is no logistic reason why an H&C S stock couldn't end up on a Circle working, after for example a service disruption.

Does that Circle train start from Olympia now? Can C Stock go to Olympia or are you meaning when the S Stock are introduced?