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Post by jardine01 on Oct 11, 2011 6:15:40 GMT
Why cant all trains just have de-icers?
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Post by metman on Oct 11, 2011 6:49:20 GMT
They can't all have de-icing equipment because the cost/benefit isn't there. There certainly is a greater % with the S stock than there is with the A stock. This is the benefit of planning a new fleet with de-icing gear rather than retro fitting it!
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Post by Ben on Oct 11, 2011 10:01:15 GMT
The drawback being you don't end up with ancient de-icing locos  |
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Post by t697 on Oct 11, 2011 20:24:50 GMT
The drawback being you don't end up with ancient de-icing locos Just an "ancient" RAT  |
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Post by metman on Oct 11, 2011 20:53:43 GMT
Good! If the Central Line gets two -so should the Met!  |
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Post by Ben on Oct 11, 2011 23:02:13 GMT
Good points! Well only another 30 years till it beats the sleet locos, bet they could do it aswell given the will...
On the S stock front, is most of the work wrt their introduction about repositioning things like OPO mirrors and other pre-resignalling related items to accomodate the old guard as well as the new?
Also related to this question, once the lines are fully resignalled, and conventional equipment removed, will it become easier, in theory, to accomodate S8s on the District if deemed worthwhile?
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Post by t697 on Oct 12, 2011 6:02:04 GMT
On the S stock front, is most of the work wrt their introduction about repositioning things like OPO mirrors and other pre-resignalling related items to accomodate the old guard as well as the new? Also related to this question, once the lines are fully resignalled, and conventional equipment removed, will it become easier, in theory, to accomodate S8s on the District if deemed worthwhile? S stock has an in-cab OPO CCTV system. The enabling works include new platform cameras, station equipment and transmission equipment to get the signal to the train. Where 'legacy' OPO on the stations is being moved or renewed this is usually to get it out of the way of the S stock passenger doorways or for S stock signal sighting etc. S stock's CSDE is also being installed along with S stock stop markers. In some places platform extensions or end barrier repositioning. Also an extensive programme of signalling immunisation and related works. The legacy OPO will be removed later and might increase space at platforms. Not aware of any plan to go to 8 car other than on the Metropolitan line though. |
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Post by cso on Oct 14, 2011 8:10:13 GMT
I thought the Class 20s departed on a Thursday? By all accounts they are still at Neasden today, and we're there last night too.
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Post by graeme186 on Oct 14, 2011 12:38:28 GMT
I thought the Class 20s departed on a Thursday? By all accounts they are still at Neasden today, and we're there last night too. Yep, stabled in the Klondyke Sidings this morning for all to see. Update: Gone by this evening |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 20:33:42 GMT
I was at mile end station lastnight on westbound platform I saw painted in orange it said survey point and it had s stock written there in White, was just wondering what it all means
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 19:22:24 GMT
I've noticed today the S7 Chevrons have been installed at Edgware Road
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 21, 2011 20:36:52 GMT
They were installed at all H&C stations last weekend I think.
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Post by graeme186 on Oct 27, 2011 9:17:17 GMT
S8 delivered overnight as Class 20s etc in Klondyke Sidings this am as I passed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 8:55:17 GMT
I've probably missed it deep in this thread, but will both pre-production trains go the same way as the two for the 2009TS? If so, is there still any chance of catching either of them in public service at the moment?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 16:59:00 GMT
I have been told not at the moment. But you can never say never .....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 21:40:44 GMT
I reported to the driver some scratched windows on 21008 earlier but he ignored me, so I'm reporting it here in hope that someone is more interested in it than the miserable sod driving the 20:53 arrival into Chesham.
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Post by kabsonline on Nov 10, 2011 21:36:32 GMT
already? They've only just come into service!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 1:04:56 GMT
Must say, I love the moquette on the seats!
Will the S7s have fully longitudinal seating or keep the same arrangement as the S8s? I think it works well and would like to see it on the District Line too, if not the H&C/Circle.
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Post by metman on Nov 11, 2011 7:58:42 GMT
All S7 will have longitudinal seating. Only the S8 for the Met will have a few transverse seats.
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Post by superteacher on Nov 14, 2011 20:06:43 GMT
I reported to the driver some scratched windows on 21008 earlier but he ignored me, so I'm reporting it here in hope that someone is more interested in it than the miserable sod driving the 20:53 arrival into Chesham. Did you get the train number? They can trace the driver from that. |
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Post by v52gc on Nov 15, 2011 6:16:20 GMT
I reported to the driver some scratched windows on 21008 earlier but he ignored me, so I'm reporting it here in hope that someone is more interested in it than the miserable sod driving the 20:53 arrival into Chesham. Did you get the train number? They can trace the driver from that. Isn't tracing the train in question the more important issue here? Or is it as you make out finding the driver to have them "punished". The driver probably had a long shift, might not have spoken to anybody for up to three hours so maybe just had their brain switched off! Or maybe the driver took note and actually reported the problem; a problem that can be found on most windows of most trains on the network! Give the train operators some slack and stop knocking them for the smallest thing! |
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Post by malcolmffc on Nov 15, 2011 6:39:07 GMT
It's never too difficult to express a little courtesy and concern.
These trains are public assets paid for by taxpayers and hence belong to *all* of us - reports of damage to them should be taken seriously.
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Post by v52gc on Nov 15, 2011 7:15:31 GMT
It's never too difficult to express a little courtesy and concern. These trains are public assets paid for by taxpayers and hence belong to *all* of us - reports of damage to them should be taken seriously. And which should more concern be given to then? Reporting the train number so that the driver or the vandalism can be reported? Give the train operator some slack, I would hope this forum isn't a place to go around calling them miserable! At the end of the day we don't know with what attitude the issue was reported to the driver. Maybe the driver just got shouted at by a customer for no reason, maybe they helped somebody earlier and got no thanks or just told a rude word! There are too many factors to behave as judge, jury and executionor and insult this member of Underground staff on a public forum! Maybe they just have a quiet voice and didn't get heard... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 8:23:32 GMT
I'd concur. Report the train number to the correct authorities..........and then post you've done so. The scratches can be dealt with by the maintenance staff. As far as attempting to drop a member of LUL staff in it over something so trivial as apparently ignoring you is concerned, I find that pointless on an internet forum. If you have a serious complaint worth pursuing about his/her behaviour which by the sounds of things isn't that serious really and would be difficult to prove, once again, report it to the correct authorities, not a bunch of train enthusiasts like us with no jurisdiction whatsoever.
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Post by superteacher on Nov 15, 2011 20:57:21 GMT
At the end of the day (no pun intended!), there is no excuse for rudeness or even sounding disinterested, no matter how long the shift. People in far less well paid jobs find it in them to be polite, so I would expect at least an interested response from the driver, and a "thank you for letting me know", even if he couldn't care less and just wanted to go home.
This is one of the problems with society these days - people find excuses for rudeness, when in most cases there is no excuse.
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Post by Dom K on Nov 15, 2011 21:35:00 GMT
Ive not been on the infamous  S stock yet... Yes I know im late... But I have a week off, and tips on best time to get on one, or are there regular trips which mean I dont have to be specific in my timings... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 21:39:37 GMT
Ive not been on the infamous S stock yet... Yes I know im late... But I have a week off, and tips on best time to get on one, or are there regular trips which mean I dont have to be specific in my timings... Just head to Baker Street or Harrow on the Hill, you will find one eventually! |
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Post by citysig on Nov 15, 2011 22:41:16 GMT
Having a look back through the logs, it appears the scratched window was indeed reported by the train operator, and the relevant treatment was taken once the train got back to depot that evening.
As for the driver, who knows. We only have bengley's personal opinion and view on the driver's response. Perhaps (and this is my view only based on previous communication on the forum) Mr Bengley is a regular complainer, and maybe known to the driver, which may be the reason for the less than enthusiastic response. I could have that very wrong indeed of course, but then so could Mr Bengley...
Maybe we should consider this particular matter closed?
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Post by metman on Nov 15, 2011 22:44:34 GMT
Yes, I think we should consider the matter closed. If the train operator was having a bad day and it showed, at least they did their job and reported it. The scratched window is the least of the problems though.....
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Post by citysig on Nov 15, 2011 22:45:46 GMT
The scratched window is the least of the problems though..... Indeed. Stop rubbing your hands together with glee Mr Metman |
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