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Post by citysig on Sept 3, 2011 12:10:45 GMT
Sorry, after re-reading my reply and seeing your reply I hope you didn't think I was going against what you thought you saw (if you see what I mean  ). What I was trying to say was that I hadn't spoken to such a high-number unit - meaning it probably was it's first or second day out there! |
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Post by superteacher on Sept 3, 2011 15:55:31 GMT
On Friday saw S stock on T410, 421, 424, 430, 432, 444. 461 and 471. There were others, but I didn't get the numbers. This was scuppered because of the signal failure at Neasden!
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Post by graeme186 on Sept 3, 2011 17:31:27 GMT
Sorry, after re-reading my reply and seeing your reply I hope you didn't think I was going against what you thought you saw (if you see what I mean ). What I was trying to say was that I hadn't spoken to such a high-number unit - meaning it probably was it's first or second day out there! No problem at all MetControl, thanks for the reply. Indeed, 21049/050 obviously did stable at Ricky overnight as it is running as T412 today. Indeed, other S8s stabled at Ricky as well as all three fast Amersham-Harrow's are formed of S Stock today. There are also S8s on the Uxbridge-Harrow service. The Watford/Chesham-Harrow service was in the hands of A Stock. |
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Post by kabsonline on Sept 3, 2011 19:25:27 GMT
Is it planned as S Stock all day to Amersham tomarrow?
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Post by citysig on Sept 3, 2011 22:47:47 GMT
There are 6 S-stocks north of the closure (and thus available for service) this weekend. They have operated today, and the plan is to operate the majority tomorrow. However, as with all trains, being away from a home depot can mean they become due for routine checks. On top of this, there has to be enough available train operators qualified to operate the stock.
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Post by graeme186 on Sept 12, 2011 13:27:16 GMT
21015/016 is on T421 today Mon 12/09.
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Post by superteacher on Sept 12, 2011 18:18:35 GMT
Are there any additional scheduled S stock workings now?
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Post by citysig on Sept 12, 2011 21:53:20 GMT
Are there any additional scheduled S stock workings now? None yet "officially" although the coming week may see some additional "floating" workings where driver availability exists. We certainly have enough S-stocks to fulfil 10+ trains per day, but still have the odd gap in terms of drivers. That gap will be closed very soon, and with 1 train per week being delivered from now on, it will soon become easy to turn up and not wait too long for an S-stock. Interestingly, this week on my night shifts I noticed (via CCTV) several photo-ops where A-stock nestled in with more than 1 S-stock beside it at a number of our multi-platform stations. There may only be 9 or 10 out there, but the workings they are on do sometimes give a feel that the future has arrived ;D |
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Post by causton on Sept 12, 2011 22:57:54 GMT
How long before you arrange it so that at HotH there's an A stock in one of the middle platforms and the rest of the platforms filled with S stocks boxing it in and intimidating it  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 20:16:34 GMT
As with the 2009 tube stock, will the initial S stock train(s) be scrapped, or isn't there much different from the initial S stock compared with the rest of the fleet?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 21:24:01 GMT
As with the 2009 tube stock, will the initial S stock train(s) be scrapped, or isn't there much different from the initial S stock compared with the rest of the fleet? I've not yet heard that will happen. The S Stocks took many of the lessons learnt on the first 2 09 Stock also, so I'd think the first 2 are closer to the production trains. |
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Post by metman on Sept 13, 2011 21:47:38 GMT
Yes that is my understanding too. However, if they are to scrap the first two let me know the time and place ;D
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Post by citysig on Sept 13, 2011 22:47:40 GMT
As with the 2009 tube stock, will the initial S stock train(s) be scrapped, or isn't there much different from the initial S stock compared with the rest of the fleet? (From the information given when they were first introduced) they will at some point be "scrapped" although this is too strong a phrase. Recycled is probably more apt. Although before this happens, they will have clocked-up many many miles and been the victim of many many tests and trial runs. |
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Post by citysig on Sept 13, 2011 22:49:52 GMT
Yes that is my understanding too. However, if they are to scrap the first two let me know the time and place ;D I shudder to think what you - armed with the necessary tools - would do to them  ;D ;D |
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Post by Ben on Sept 14, 2011 3:03:06 GMT
The kind of tests withdrawn CO/CP stock undertook at Upminster? Or what about that 'Peak' and the three mk1s?...
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Post by metman on Sept 14, 2011 6:46:39 GMT
If they undergo those sorts of tests they will be scrapped!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 18:12:37 GMT
I was wondering, do we use the same terminology for the s stock as we do for 09ts eg
21049/50 being train 25 etc?
Just wondering
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Post by astock5000 on Sept 20, 2011 0:06:14 GMT
I was wondering, do we use the same terminology for the s stock as we do for 09ts eg 21049/50 being train 25 etc? Just wondering People were doing that but it became confusing as the second pre-production train, which should be train 2, is numbered as train 50 and will eventually be production train 58. This, as well as units being delivered in the 'wrong' order, meant there were several different numbers that could be used for each unit (e.g. 21005 - numbered as train 3, but is the 4th built, the 2nd production train, and the 4th to enter service). It's much easier to just use the odd 21xxx number. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 5:01:21 GMT
On a related note, is there any particular reason why the S8s are not all being delivered in the "correct" order?
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Post by graeme186 on Sept 20, 2011 8:01:10 GMT
21027/028 forming T470 this am 20/09
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Post by citysig on Sept 20, 2011 9:20:55 GMT
Just to duplicate what I've posted in the "S-Stock Workings" thread:
With effect from Monday 19th September, we have begun to operate between 11 and 13 trains each day.
We are now entering an area where workings will be variable on most days (although there will be an underlying plan). This is to suit stabling / train operator availability / test and training targets and maintenance programs for the stock itself.
Therefore it is more or less impossible for me to keep this thread up to date with accurate information. Should we enter a more "stable" area of workings, then I may re-instate detailed information. However, such is the nature of this project, that from here on in there will be more and more S-stock workings. Anyone wishing to travel on one - even today - does not have to wait a great deal of time for one to turn up in one direction or other, especially if you wait somewhere like Baker Street or Harrow.
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Post by ian1994 on Sept 20, 2011 12:26:33 GMT
will there be any running to chesham during the daytime?
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Post by kabsonline on Sept 20, 2011 16:38:22 GMT
I saw an S Stock on the Chesham branch a couple of weeks ago in the daytime. Must have been around 6pm
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Post by citysig on Sept 20, 2011 20:31:21 GMT
will there be any running to chesham during the daytime? Not too long after you posted that, an S-stock visited Chesham ;D The S-stocks will be more or less spread out across the whole line / all branches and services, especially during peak periods. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 21:35:31 GMT
I'm off to London in about 4 weeks and my friend lives in chesham so hopefully will be able to get one there then! ;D
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Post by graeme186 on Sept 23, 2011 21:26:51 GMT
Noted 21051/052 on T474 this evening on the way home. There is also a second report on the 'A Stock Formations' thread. First day in service?
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Post by astock5000 on Oct 6, 2011 14:52:45 GMT
21058 Arrived last night. Excepting 099/100, the first non-deicer delivered. There are still 9 S8s with de-icing equipment that are not yet delivered (not including 21001 and 21045). I would have expected most of those units to arrive before 21057 onwards, but maybe with most de-icing A stock units still running it isn't much of a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 13:18:46 GMT
10/10/11 AM
3/4 414
5/6 422
19/20 ?
23/24 432
44/45 470
50/51 444
51/52 427
53/54 ?
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Post by metman on Oct 10, 2011 22:24:30 GMT
Has the deicing equipment actually been tested yet?
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Post by t697 on Oct 11, 2011 5:31:36 GMT
Has the deicing equipment actually been tested yet? Yes it has. There will also be more S8 de-icers than A stock ones. |
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). What I was trying to say was that I hadn't spoken to such a high-number unit - meaning it probably was it's first or second day out there!
