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Post by prjb on Jul 11, 2011 22:34:02 GMT
Nothing above the normal timetabled running which can be found on the forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 10:16:01 GMT
Tues Morn S8s 12/7/11 441 7/8 443 13/14 444 3/4 461 17/18 462 A-Stock
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Post by citysig on Jul 12, 2011 14:13:59 GMT
462 never ran at all this morning, due to a (Jubilee Line related) signal failure exiting Neasden depot.
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 12, 2011 21:26:04 GMT
21021/22 formed T465 this evening. This may be this train's first day in passenger service?
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Post by causton on Jul 12, 2011 21:39:49 GMT
462 never ran at all this morning, due to a (Jubilee Line related) signal failure exiting Neasden depot. What's up with Neasden signals at the moment? They seem to be having a lot of issues very recently and just last Saturday I was caught up in it, wondering why a Fast Baker St train was in platform 2 at HotH (waiting for a Chiltern train which was due just after) I thought "oh, I'll just get this one" but the train was actually terminating (no change of blinds!) and departed back north, and the station announcer told everyone to go to Wembley Park and catch the Jubilee line! Luckily my Marylebone train left before everyone realised they could use that instead, and I got a good view of (see, this post IS on topic!) quite a few S stock in Neasden depot
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 22:09:26 GMT
462 never ran at all this morning, due to a (Jubilee Line related) signal failure exiting Neasden depot. What's up with Neasden signals at the moment? They seem to be having a lot of issues very recently and just last Saturday I was caught up in it, wondering why a Fast Baker St train was in platform 2 at HotH (waiting for a Chiltern train which was due just after) I thought "oh, I'll just get this one" but the train was actually terminating (no change of blinds!) and departed back north, and the station announcer told everyone to go to Wembley Park and catch the Jubilee line! Luckily my Marylebone train left before everyone realised they could use that instead, and I got a good view of (see, this post IS on topic!) quite a few S stock in Neasden depot Once a Met arrives in platform 2 at HOH , there's only one way it's going to go and that's the way you described, it can't go south!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 7:48:50 GMT
What's up with Neasden signals at the moment? They seem to be having a lot of issues very recently and just last Saturday I was caught up in it, wondering why a Fast Baker St train was in platform 2 at HotH (waiting for a Chiltern train which was due just after) I thought "oh, I'll just get this one" but the train was actually terminating (no change of blinds!) and departed back north, and the station announcer told everyone to go to Wembley Park and catch the Jubilee line! Luckily my Marylebone train left before everyone realised they could use that instead, and I got a good view of (see, this post IS on topic!) quite a few S stock in Neasden depot Once a Met arrives in platform 2 at HOH , there's only one way it's going to go and that's the way you described, it can't go south! It can if it can pick up enough speed and roll to Marylebone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 8:07:08 GMT
There was also a signal failure at Rayners Lane yesterday evening which seemed to take some time to repair. Trains were tripping past the semi-auto home signals on the westbound.
The LUL website helpfully stated a good service on the Met!
Also around 21:00hrs about 25% of the Uxbridge branch service seemed to be made up of S stock.
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Post by Oracle on Jul 13, 2011 9:20:53 GMT
It can if it can pick up enough speed and roll to Marylebone. I know it's totally OTT but I have photos taken on 11 May 1961 at Marylebone (goods) with the Institution of Loco Engineers exhibition that included an A60 and a 3-car [?] 1959 Stock trains. We have covered this before but I think that they were taken there by battery locos. Back on topic, when new a D78 train was 'exhibited' at Mansion House or Tower Hill one day. It afforded the opportunity to sit in the driving seat and inspect the controls. I wonder if an S7 will be similarly parked for punter inspection?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 9:49:37 GMT
Continuing a bit off topic -
On 8 October 2001, one A Stock train did try to reach Marylebone!
At about 10.55, a southbound empty Metropolitan Line train bound for Neasden depot and travelling on the southbound 'main' accepted an incorrect signal given at Harrow North Junction. The train continued through platform No.2 at Harrow-on-the-Hill station but unfortunately, the current rails 'run out' at the south end of that platform. The train stopped with its rear about four cars out of the station.
The train was eventually brought back into platform No.2 (arrived 12.42), using gap jumper leads, plugged into the train's receptacle box and connected to the current rails on the adjacent northbound 'fast' line. It finally departed Harrow at 12.52.
Photos and details in Underground News No.480, December 2001.
It wasn't long after that a sign appeared at the south end of platform 2 "No LUL trains to pass beyond this point. Dead section ahead". The terms "horse", "stable door" and "bolted" come to mind ;D ;D
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Post by citysig on Jul 13, 2011 10:29:23 GMT
What's up with Neasden signals at the moment? That could be a whole thread on its own. Let's just say some teething problems (and possible design flaws) with the new system have come to light. A rare failure that was predicted to occur once in every 8 years has happened 4 times since the end of last week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 18:29:50 GMT
Continuing a bit off topic - ... On 8 October 2001, one A Stock train did try to reach Marylebone! The terms "horse", "stable door" and "bolted" come to mind ;D ;D Thanks for a really interesting tidbit!
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Post by causton on Jul 13, 2011 22:29:24 GMT
What's up with Neasden signals at the moment? That could be a whole thread on its own. Let's just say some teething problems (and possible design flaws) with the new system have come to light. A rare failure that was predicted to occur once in every 8 years has happened 4 times since the end of last week. Oh dear And to all the replies re: no southbound met from pfm2 - yes I know now - I just wasn't thinking at the time
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 9:53:26 GMT
15/07/11 AM 441 21/22 443 13/14 444 19/20 461 9/10 462 5/6
Didn't see PP1 on the H&C
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 10:02:05 GMT
Don't suppose you will in daytime hours for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 10:44:45 GMT
Tried out the S stock today. Overall impression is that they offer a much needed improvement in comfort and performance over the A60's. Aircon today much needed. I like the light airy modern interior. The ride is much improved but still not comparable to the best mainline emu's. These are Superior in every aspect to the trains they are replacing. Okay, so there maybe a few less seats, but if I lived by a station with the Chiltern option, then i would take it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 21:07:50 GMT
15/07/11 AM 441 21/22 443 13/14 444 19/20 461 9/10 462 5/6 Didn't see PP1 on the H&C 444 ended up with A stock for the 11:34 BST - WF. However S stock formed train 445! Any reason why no S stock out on weekends?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 11:26:15 GMT
Train 465 was A stock yesterday night, I was on the 22:54 service
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Post by citysig on Jul 16, 2011 17:25:26 GMT
The S-stock was all over the place yesterday due to severe service disruption.
Weekend S-stock has been covered elsewhere, but just to repeat, it's down to a mixture of available drivers (which is becoming less and less of a problem) and also as a result of service closures - certain weekends see no access to/from Neasden depot, and so the stock is "stuck" in there.
The weekend also forms a handy down-time for work on any minor problems / tweaks that have been spotted during the previous week.
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Post by citysig on Jul 18, 2011 17:51:56 GMT
"S-stock workings" thread (in the Met area) edited to show that Train 451 is now S-stock formed. However, should insufficient stock be available, this train will be the first to be formed of A-stock.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 18:00:42 GMT
What with what's been said about weekend workings and bearing in mind the closure south of Harrow-on-the-Hill, there wouldn't be any point in heading that way this weekend to see an S-stock would there?
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Post by metman on Jul 21, 2011 18:27:22 GMT
Doubt it no. They'll be all tucked up safe. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 19:39:38 GMT
Doubt it no. They'll be all tucked up safe. ;D You never know, there is one at Uxbridge they could use??
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Post by metman on Jul 21, 2011 19:50:05 GMT
I think it's finding the drivers to operate it, but you never know!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 19:30:42 GMT
22/07/11 PM Loads of cancellations today due to a 5mph restriction over faulty track in the Neasden area apparently 21003/4 seen leaving Neasden (N) heading to WPK P5/6? 21007/8 451 21011/12 same thing as 3/4 21017/18 444
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 22, 2011 20:08:55 GMT
Was at Baker Street earlier and it was suspended between Baker Street and HOTH due to a signal failure at Wembley Park. Train 451 - Unit 21008 was in platform 4 cancelled. A Stocks in platforms 1 and 2 cancelled, and an A Stock came into platform 3 for Moorgate. After leaving the Metropolitan line platforms at BKS for the Circle/H&C line platforms, we heard something about congestion in the tunnel - assumably between Baker Street and Finchley Road. Trains were being tipped out somewhere and once congestion was cleared in the tunnel then trains would resume services. The PA wasn't very clear and therefore I was unable to comprehend it properly. What was going on?
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Post by Hassaan on Jul 23, 2011 22:43:38 GMT
(My first post)The ride is much improved but still not comparable to the best mainline emu's. In my opinion there would be no point spending too much money trying to make sure the ride quality of the S Stock is as good as mainline trains. There are many reasons why I am saying this: 1. The S stock would see more use in a certain period of time compared to mainline trains, therefore the interior would need to be better built. 2. Passengers would normally spend longer on mainline trains compared to the Underground. 3. More trains are required on the Underground compared to the mainline. 4. The Underground trains would be subject to something other trains normally wouldn't: Tunnel Dust. This would mean that the exterior of the S stock would need to withstand this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2011 22:31:33 GMT
I sat on an S stock from Baker to Chesham the other day and for the first time on the underground my rear started to hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 7:31:04 GMT
I sat on an S stock from Baker to Chesham the other day and for the first time on the underground my rear started to hurt. You haven't sat on 95ts flip-downs then.. they hurt after about 1 station they're that bad!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 13:18:26 GMT
I sat on an S stock from Baker to Chesham the other day and for the first time on the underground my rear started to hurt. Chalfonts?
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