S stock delivery & introduction - discussion

Sure! Once we are happy with the current running we will look to start peak hours operation and also look to increase the numbers of trains in service. I expect that this will not take too long to achieve, but we are being justifiably cautious in our approach as this is a very busy operational section we are moving in to. Hope this clarifies, didn't mean to be cryptic!

Put simply, there are still a few tweaks to the current timetable that needed to be made. The proposed S-stock paths did not take account of this other plan. Given I'm the man behind that other plan, it should have been me they came to see, but hey ho...

It will be both 431 and 474 - but not at the same time ;D

The plan is that at 1056 Harrow on the northbound, the existing Train 451 will swap over with Train 431 - putting the S-stock onto an Uxbridge-Aldgate path.

431 will continue as S-stock (this train reverses at Baker Street during the evening peak) until it reaches Watford at 1928. Then it will become 474 and run on that path (Uxbridge-Aldgates - although it will first of all run Watford-Moorgate - the first time the bay roads there will have been used) for the rest of the day.

Leaving aldgate now

431 - someone set off the pass alarm at moorgate and the driver started to phone the controller with the handset set to pa - whoops! Left it at Uxbridge now for it to go back to baker street


I had an exam this morning, give me a break

Oh right 21007 on 431, 21005 on 465

Phew! I'm exhausted! Just got home from a manic north London rush to get home - including somehow despite how careful I was all day getting an incomplete journey! :/

In the end I caught:
431 - Finchley Rd 14:30 - Aldgate
Aldgate 15:05 - Uxbridge arrived at 16:00

465 - saw it coming out the depot and caught it at 17:10 Finchley Rd - Baker Street

then went round to Westfield and other places, came back to catch

474 - Baker Street at 20:30 - Moorgate 20:45

All times very approximate, as from my camera which is a little out, pictures going up on Flickr soon although they're not the best focused in some of them

Note: Can I just say a big thanks to prjb and MetControl for your help in letting me find all of these trains (and more workings I saw going to/from places!) by providing those cheeky hints (which sometimes turn into absolute timings!). Although the LU employee said he could think of better things to do with an afternoon, I found it a great way to pass the time while going to places to do other things (I didn't JUST spend all afternoon on S stock, honest! )

Indeed, I saw Moorgate on the describer whilst working out "how long will it take for the train to get from Watford to Baker Street?" and ran for it down the stairs... to find it was an A stock. Not impressed. Then had dinner consisting of the marked-down sandwiches from the shop on platform (1? from City to Finchley Rd...) and I eventually saw a train for Moorgate and thought "I'm getting that, S stock or not, I've been here too long" and it was, thankfully

I think you'll find it will disable the front and rear 4 sets of doors when CSDE override has to be used, bronzeonion.

Indeed, as I was told last night, "It's all about the confidence; I can't stay in that cab and nurse him [the driver] forever and soon he'll be on the mark every time"

Thanks MetControl and prjb. I suppose in the fullness of time at appropriate occassions the scope of gauging will increase to cover where ever it can be done and might be useful.

Ohhhh ok


For Causton - 17/18 was on 431/474 yesterday

431 was an A stock today.

The first phase of testing of the pre-production S7 train will be undertaken in enginerring hours.
It is due to work from Neasden Depot to Moorgate and then Moorgate to Edgware Road.

2 places it hasn't been before, and in a formation it hasn't worked before (which can potentially cause all sorts of computery problems)