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Post by t697 on Oct 12, 2010 21:54:27 GMT
Has one ever made it through Hanger Lane....  WM? Oops! I thought you meant Hanger Lane Gyratory - on a low loader... |
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Post by a60 on Oct 14, 2010 17:45:03 GMT
I have seen thumbnail for 3 A Stock cars at a location (the actual photos are locked) I am not however going to give the game away....
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Post by a60 on Oct 29, 2010 17:22:59 GMT
i saw this and it put a small lump in my throat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 17:32:08 GMT
a60 - thanks for the film posting.
I noticed the back of the second car had a destination board of Surrey Quays. Kind of fitting to go along with the LU demise of the East London Line.
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Post by metman on Oct 29, 2010 17:53:52 GMT
Probably I final joke from one of the depot staff.
I hoped never to see this day.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 18:03:17 GMT
Why the hell are they clogging up already choked roads when they could tow an entire train up a half empty railway network? Seems daft to me. Guess it must be cheaper so sod the inconvenience to road users.  |
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 29, 2010 18:09:31 GMT
Possibly the extortionate track access charges, and the fact the grandes dames of the A stock are a little too fat to fit anywhere else.
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Post by metman on Oct 29, 2010 18:12:41 GMT
The underframe of 5172-3 was not in good condition, hence why it was withdrawn. They are not suitable for rail transport, and as mrfs says they are out of gauge in places.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 18:25:53 GMT
The second lorry is quite old a "P reg" As it is not a local company I wonder if the lorry is compliant with the London emission zone rules. If it is not was any dispensation for the charge as TFL is the customer?
Why are TFL not being green ? The A60/A62 stock is wide however when it last went for overhaul, admittedly via a roundabout route, they were all sent by rail.
Every coach is being transported separately 100's of journeys; I must ring the Carbon Bank and close my account ;D
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Post by metrolander on Oct 29, 2010 22:14:46 GMT
I'm on Cubs honour not to reveal the circumstances, but some years ago I had the opportunity to select an A stock destination blind. For whatever random reason, I happened to choose Surrey Quays - giving this video the most unique nostalgic twist
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Post by Oracle on Oct 29, 2010 22:18:38 GMT
These are the Alleyls Heavy Haulage fleet (they have it seems 20 DAF tractors as well):
DAF 8x4 XF 480 250t
DAF 8x4 XF 430 250t
DAF 8x4 XF 480 150t
DAF 8x4 95-430 150t
DAF 6x4 95-430 150t x 2
DAF 6x2 XF530 100t
DAF 6x2 XF430 100t
DAF 6x2 95-430 100t
Volvo 6x4 FL12 420 120t
I can't see any reference to any re-engining with lower-emission engines than as fitted originally but it is very possible.
I write every month on vintage heavy haulage..it's about Volvos at the moment and it is interesting to see how little hasd changed as regards trailer designs, and the tractors seem to be the same overall shape, with 6x4 drive. It's just that the bhp is much higher!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 22:52:47 GMT
The leading car being taken for scrap still has a set number! I thought they would save that for spares.
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Post by tubeprune on Oct 30, 2010 6:32:45 GMT
i saw this and it put a small lump in my throat And I started work on them as the last few went into service. I remember the golden maple wood flooring. |
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Post by deadmans on Oct 31, 2010 20:13:59 GMT
Strange given how short the met service is, or WAS, and will be again very shortly, LUL should let the deport scrap two good units.
One was a tree strike ( which would take a full day to repair), and the other a burnt out wiring loom in one car! How very short sighted.
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Post by Ben on Oct 31, 2010 21:38:28 GMT
Thought the first one was heavily robbed due to shortage of spares?
There will be far more in way better condition that'll be sent for scrap as the time comes. Thats terrible pretty much anyway you slice it, but no-one seems to want them. If something works ethically it shouldnt be throw away, but if noone wants to use them then what happens, you leave it lying around for a few years until they dont work anymore then throw them?
I hope LU has been making copious enquiries as to possible further use?
I still stand my suggestion of depot 'Pets' for each line though...
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Post by citysig on Nov 1, 2010 19:37:45 GMT
However hard it is, you've got to let them go. They will be scrapped, and no doubt a huge amount of the material taken will be recycled - so just think one day your beloved A60 could be turned into a tin of beans  ;D ;D (Someone hold metman back, I think he's going to punch me ) Those car drivers amongst us I daresay have sent at least one car to a scrap yard - maybe the first car you had, and probably because it was an old banger when you got it. The A60s may have been able to carry on for a few more years, but for how many more? And at what cost to the company and thus to the fare-payer? |
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Post by phillw48 on Nov 1, 2010 19:46:55 GMT
Is there any possibility of one being kept as a 'heritage' unit for rail tours and the like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 19:55:12 GMT
. They will be scrapped, and no doubt a huge amount of the material taken will be recycled - so just think one day your beloved A60 could be turned into a tin of beans ;D ;D So I could end having having particles from an A60 coming out of my.....  ;D It's an ill w.......... Xerces Fobe |
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Post by deadmans on Nov 1, 2010 20:09:23 GMT
What's wrong with the A stock? ;D NOTHING, the company has spent the last five years winding down on maintenance, which has now caught up with them ;D  |
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Post by metman on Nov 1, 2010 20:09:28 GMT
Is there any possibility of one being kept as a 'heritage' unit for rail tours and the like. That's the plan, but we must ensure that happens..... |
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Post by superteacher on Nov 1, 2010 20:32:35 GMT
What's wrong with the A stock? ;D NOTHING, the company has spent the last five years winding down on maintenance, which has now caught up with them ;D NOTHING, apart from the fact that they are nearly 50 years old, and if they are not replaced soon, they wlll become very unreliable which will then give you a reason to moan about something else. The money needed to keep them going will come through increased fares, which I'm sure you will also moan about. ;D ;D I like the A stock too, as I loved the 1959 stock, but the time has come I'm afraid. As much as we like the old trains, LU's first duty is to provide a reasonable service. Look at what happened in the latter years of the 1938 stock. A number of trains were given an extra heavy overhaul back in the 1970's when they were about 35 years old. By the early 80's, they were breaking down left, right and centre, to the point where even with constant maintenance, they were cancelling up to 10 trains per day, sometimes more. |
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Post by metman on Nov 1, 2010 21:01:24 GMT
I wouldn't say the A stock are in that category yet! I think they are better built than the 1938 stock and basically use a very refined PCM.
deadmans won't be paying the higher fares though will he!
I've still got my first car, nearly 14 years old, runs like a dream because it has been well maintained...see any parallels?.... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 21:16:58 GMT
What's wrong with the A stock? ;D NOTHING, the company has spent the last five years winding down on maintenance, which has now caught up with them ;D You're priceless you are! ;D They wind down maintenance when a replacement is in sight. Simple economics. |
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Post by deadmans on Nov 3, 2010 19:47:45 GMT
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Post by Ben on Nov 3, 2010 20:24:22 GMT
Thank you for not posting it as an embedded image though  Dunno about others but I'm trying to avoid the sight of A stock in the scrap yards. I'll just tell myself they're being stored in a welsh coal mine just incase, like the kettles... |
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Post by vato on Nov 3, 2010 20:45:19 GMT
Not a welsh coal mine - the LU Strategic Reserve is stored on the mothballed portions of the Fleet and Chelney lines that *they* won't tell you about.
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Post by bassmike on Nov 4, 2010 2:42:50 GMT
did 6172/3 get to eastleigh by road?
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Post by metman on Nov 4, 2010 7:38:41 GMT
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Post by redsetter on Nov 4, 2010 14:06:12 GMT
Thank you for not posting it as an embedded image though Dunno about others but I'm trying to avoid the sight of A stock in the scrap yards. I'll just tell myself they're being stored in a welsh coal mine just incase, like the kettles... embedded images are easily overridden by saving page as complete to desktop and extracting from the yellow folder. however the images are private for a reason and the users permission needs to be obtained. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2010 15:31:18 GMT
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Dunno about others but I'm trying to avoid the sight of A stock in the scrap yards. I'll just tell myself they're being stored in a welsh coal mine just incase, like the kettles...
