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Post by auxsetreq on May 1, 2011 14:42:03 GMT
The lighting is fine as it is imo You're entitled to your opinion and I would agree that it isn't a major priority when the budget is tight.  However in terms of design I personally think the proposed modified lighting looked far more stylish. I've never been a fan of the current light covers. The correct term for lighting covers is "luminairs" - It's French you know. I read it in a book, so it's got to be right. But as I'm usually *entirely wrong* it could be Aramaic........... The present lighting is fine, so long as the juice is on. Problem is, those tubes use a lot of battery power as emergency lights and cause the train's systems to load shed quicker that was first thought. So really LEDs were a good upgrade decision. Trouble is all the money allocated has been spent on a wedding. |
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Post by Alight on May 1, 2011 15:49:31 GMT
The correct term for lighting covers is "luminairs" - It's French you know. I read it in a book, so it's got to be right. But as I'm usually *entirely wrong* it could be Aramaic........... , light fittings, light fixtures, luminaires - it doesn't really matter.  |
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Post by auxsetreq on May 1, 2011 16:15:12 GMT
The correct term for lighting covers is "luminairs" - It's French you know. I read it in a book, so it's got to be right. But as I'm usually *entirely wrong* it could be Aramaic........... , light fittings, light fixtures, luminaires - it doesn't really matter. As an Eskimo would say " Oh Contraire" - Or should that be Paul Moss author of the excellent book *Underground Movement* ( that's The Tube moving underground, not someone taking a movement in the cellar ) Never once did he write "lampshade" in his authoritarian tome detailing the development of tube train design since 1066. Personally I'm of the naked light sect. " Can someone swat that moth banging itself against the luminaire" doesn't have the same ring to it as *bulb*, or 100w Osram............ |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 16:34:46 GMT
<Pedantic note> Point of order! "luminaire" is the technical name for a light fitting or device used for illumination. The translucent "covers" used to cover the tubes in the '92ts are technically known as "diffusers" as that is what they do to the light. A transparent "cover" that spreads light by refraction through a series if ridges or prisms is know as a "controller"... unless it is separate device inside the luminaire in which case it is usually called a "refractor". </Pedantic note>
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Post by auxsetreq on May 1, 2011 16:49:06 GMT
<Pedantic note> Point of order! "luminaire" is the technical name for a light fitting or device used for illumination. The translucent "covers" used to cover the tubes in the '92ts are technically known as "diffusers" as that is what they do to the light. A transparent "cover" that spreads light by refraction through a series if ridges or prisms is know as a "controller"... unless it is separate device inside the luminaire in which case it is usually called a "refractor". </Pedantic note> Dear Paul. I've noted throughout your book *Underground Movement 1066 to the Present Day * That you've described the lamp fittings in tube trains as "Luminairs". I want to point out that this description is wrong. Technically they are known as "Diffusers" and should your book go into re-print I hope this correction will be made. Peter. There you go Pete. E mail this to Paul in English, French, Aramaic and Eskimo and you'll go down in the annuls of the *I am entirely correct* hall of fame. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 17:24:50 GMT
My friend was on 91183 today, which is a full refurb unit not the trial unit, and the lighting is flush with the ceiling according to photo's he has put on Facebook. I'll aak him if I can upload them here
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Post by Alight on May 1, 2011 18:07:08 GMT
Ah that is good to hear! (well IMO anyway  ) It is interesting we're getting mixed messages though; as I say, an e-mail received from LU states that the lighting is not going to be modified but on the other hand this is the same e-mail which states that the refresh will commence in May, which clearly is not the case as already units have been refreshed! Underground Movement by Paul Moss is an excellent book - there is no denying it - but different authors use different terminology. Take the bobbles on springs, for instance; some say "bobble (strap) hangers" whilst others say "flexible hand grabs" or even simply 'straps'.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 21:54:31 GMT
That unit is the trial, production hasn't started yet and they. Won't be doing the lights.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 21:55:31 GMT
Oh right, so their are two trials?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2011 22:36:53 GMT
Oh, are we talking only the lighting? Don't know how many units had the lights fitted, but i do know how many end panels and windows were done, it was only the single unit. Don't remember the unit number though
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 5:20:39 GMT
My friend was on 91183 today, which is a full refurb unit not the trial unit, and the lighting is flush with the ceiling according to photo's he has put on Facebook. I'll aak him if I can upload them here 91183/92183 is the trail unit I brought out of Ruislip depot back in March. Photos on page 3 of “Less tape on cabs” thread. There you go Pete. E mail this to Paul in English, French, Aramaic and Eskimo and you'll go down in the annuls of the *I am entirely correct* hall of fame. There is no such language as Eskimo, they either speak Inuit or Yupik. The Sireninski dialect while virtually extinct is regarded by some as a third separate language though others think it is a sub-branch of Yupik. Bathtub. |
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Post by auxsetreq on May 2, 2011 8:39:08 GMT
My friend was on 91183 today, which is a full refurb unit not the trial unit, and the lighting is flush with the ceiling according to photo's he has put on Facebook. I'll aak him if I can upload them here 91183/92183 is the trail unit I brought out of Ruislip depot back in March. Photos on page 3 of “Less tape on cabs” thread. There you go Pete. E mail this to Paul in English, French, Aramaic and Eskimo and you'll go down in the annuls of the *I am entirely correct* hall of fame. There is no such language as Eskimo, they either speak Inuit or Yupik. The Sireninski dialect while virtually extinct is regarded by some as a third separate language though others think it is a sub-branch of Yupik. Bathtub. OMG - guess who's been Wikiing............Clever you. You've passed Ceiling cat's test on how to get an authour of a book to change his lampshade description from Luminaire to Diffuser in the Yupik tongue. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_languagesAnyway for such an "illuminating" effort you win first prize..........  Please feel free to call it whatever you want in whatever language or dialect. Also it should look nice hanging over your bathtub..........mint? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 9:39:06 GMT
OMG - guess who's been Wikiing............Clever you. You've passed Ceiling cat's test on how to get an authour of a book to change his lampshade description from Luminaire to Diffuser in the Yupik tongue. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_languagesAnyway for such an "illuminating" effort you win first prize.......... Please feel free to call it whatever you want in whatever language or dialect. Also it should look nice hanging over your bathtub..........mint? Blame that lovely Stephen Fry, he was on QI exploding the myth that Eskimos have dozens of words for snow and he also pointed out that while all Inuit are Eskimos not all Eskimos are Inuit. Being at a lose end I did indeed Wiki it and it was mere happenstance that you should mention them. Not mint but very fine plus. |
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However in terms of design I personally think the proposed modified lighting looked far more stylish. I've never been a fan of the current light covers.
) It is interesting we're getting mixed messages though; as I say, an e-mail received from LU states that the lighting is not going to be modified but on the other hand this is the same e-mail which states that the refresh will commence in May, which clearly is not the case as already units have been refreshed!
