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Post by edwin on Sept 1, 2010 2:38:36 GMT
Sat down on seat between windows, banged head hard on wall behind. Didn't quite expect that one...  Yeah, I keep doing that. Not sure why, doesn't happen to me on any other train! I always get a shock whenever I get up from my seat because of the straps grazing past my head. |
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Post by metrolander on Sept 13, 2010 21:15:31 GMT
This is just a slight curiosity, it is linked to the thread title if somewhat tenuously...
Why would a 378/0 be reversing North-South at Kilburn High Road? I saw it roll through North around 2115, South around 2120 as I waited to go Northbound. Just wondering...
However, now I think of it, I observed something this morning which is definitely non-standard, and to be frank made me double-take a bit. I left Harlesden at 0713 (ish), getting to Watford High St at 0740 (didn't check the clock when I got there...) Now, after let's say 5 minutes max (getting a coffee upstairs etc) I walked round the station to the bridge over the south end of the platforms, and as I crossed it another train went through Northbound:Que?? Would this be ECS? Must admit I can't recall if it stopped or not... journey planner indicates (as I thought) that the next scheduled train is 20 minutes later; but I'm fairly certain from having waited at Harlesden for the 0733 (having missed the 0713!) that no empty 378 comes through...
These are very minor musings but the sort of information which I know some people can and will provide! I wait in peace
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2010 21:31:39 GMT
378201 and 378202 in service on the DC today. Slightly off topic but 378226 on the 0742 RMD-SRA (and apparently 378208 seen elsewhere) working the 2 diagrams on the NLL this morning. This was before the major disruption due to the failed train near Acton around 1030 this morning. And no 313's..!!  Regards Martin |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2010 14:43:55 GMT
This is just a slight curiosity, it is linked to the thread title if somewhat tenuously... Why would a 378/0 be reversing North-South at Kilburn High Road? I saw it roll through North around 2115, South around 2120 as I waited to go Northbound. Just wondering... ECS Stratford/Camden to Euston |
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Post by metman on Oct 4, 2010 17:50:45 GMT
Now there is a full service on the DC line, are there more trains to run the service? I did see a train in the reversing siding at Harrow today during the strike! My boss also said there were two trains drawn up along side each other on platform 2 I think at Harrow. What was going on here?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 19:29:39 GMT
Now there is a full service on the DC line, are there more trains to run the service? I did see a train in the reversing siding at Harrow today during the strike! My boss also said there were two trains drawn up along side each other on platform 2 I think at Harrow. What was going on here? Probably the same as the last time when LU were on strike, LOROL ran extra trains on the DC in the peaks (between Euston & Harrow only) to cover for the loss of the Bakerloo. I know they ran some extra trains in the morning peak today. Don't think they managed to run the extra trains in the evening this time round though... |
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Post by andypurk on Oct 4, 2010 20:49:45 GMT
Now there is a full service on the DC line, are there more trains to run the service? I did see a train in the reversing siding at Harrow today during the strike! My boss also said there were two trains drawn up along side each other on platform 2 I think at Harrow. What was going on here? There was a unit failure at Harrow this morning, unit 229 (at south end) and unit 210 (over the point work at the north end) were sat in platform 2 for a fair time and the London Midland service from Harrow was even more crowded than during the last strike. |
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Post by mrjrt on Oct 5, 2010 11:39:37 GMT
I do wonder how the DC lines manage to be late so frequently by the time it gets to Harrow when heading north. At first I put it down to it's interaction with the Bakerloo, as that's pretty much all there is, then as the new trains came on-stream I put it down to the older stock in use, but even during the strike with all-new stock it was still about about 5 minutes late when I went to catch it. Disappointing given it's opportunities to make up lost time with a 20 minute headway clear in front of it!
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Post by harlesden on Oct 5, 2010 12:20:26 GMT
In the evening peak (during a strike), the LO train is full by the time it arrives at Willesden Junction and very few passengers get off, but there is a whole heap determined to squeeze their way on. Therefore the train is sat at Wiilesden Junction for literally 6-7 minutes before they can get the doors shut
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Post by andypurk on Oct 5, 2010 14:39:17 GMT
In the evening peak (during a strike), the LO train is full by the time it arrives at Willesden Junction and very few passengers get off, but there is a whole heap determined to squeeze their way on. Therefore the train is sat at Wiilesden Junction for literally 6-7 minutes before they can get the doors shut The same happens, during the peaks, even when there is no strike. There is a constant stream of people coming off the North London Line platforms and the rear doors (heading north) get held open. They could do with some platform staff to stop this. |
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Post by mrjrt on Oct 5, 2010 21:22:19 GMT
The same happens, during the peaks, even when there is no strike. There is a constant stream of people coming off the North London Line platforms and the rear doors (heading north) get held open. They could do with some platform staff to stop this. Easy solution - run 6-carriage trains then  |
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Post by andypurk on Oct 5, 2010 21:39:57 GMT
The same happens, during the peaks, even when there is no strike. There is a constant stream of people coming off the North London Line platforms and the rear doors (heading north) get held open. They could do with some platform staff to stop this. Easy solution - run 6-carriage trains then The simple solution is to have doors which can't be held open so easily, the evening peak DC line services, with 4 car trains, are not particularly overcrowded when things are running normally. It is only the rear set of doors which are held and it would always be the rear doors (assuming no station rebuild) no matter the train length  |
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Post by metrolander on Oct 8, 2010 17:05:42 GMT
Having been a regular commuter on the DC line now for a few months now I have to say my experience isn't that it's frequently late. I commute 'against' the peak but my morning train can vary between two, it's usually there around about bang on time by the station clock, or within a couple of minutes. Are you talking about the Northbound peaks? Even then, I've seen the trains coming in to Watford only 2-3 late minutes generally...
I also have an unscientific test when travelling either way; without checking, I imagine South Kenton has Northbound and Southbound departures at pretty much the same time? Trains always seem to pass here; if that's not timetabled to be the case clearly it does indicate that something is frequently behind?!
On the subject of the trains' loading, as mentioned I travel against the peaks but yesterday I happened to get the same 3-car train North in the morning, and back home in the evening... You REALLY notice the difference with less room! Still, quite how anyone can prefer the 313 to the 378s is beyond me. Yes, it would be nice to look out of the window without the person next to you thinking you're staring at them from point blank range, but you can still do it, I find them perfectly agreeable to commute on. The ONLY thing missing from the 313 era which would be welcome now is a bin!
Somerset Chris never did thank for your earlier reply; thanks! Tis what I thought it was just interesting as it was perhaps the first instance of something happening which I was far more informed about having started tapping this most informative forum. Previously I would have just thought 'empty train'.... 'empty train going the other way'... I like that I know now, relevant to the greater scheme of life or not!
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Post by mrjrt on Oct 12, 2010 13:43:59 GMT
Well, it was 7 minutes late last night, was about 4 minutes late on Friday (or Thursday?), and was about 4 minutes late a day or two before that. It's not necessarily every day, but it's frequent enough (pretty much every other day at times), to be a constant concern. It's mainly a pain because it causes me to miss my bus at my destination and thus I end up with an extra 15 minute wait because of it.
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Post by metrolander on Oct 12, 2010 13:49:58 GMT
That does put your suffering far more in context! As I said, I travel against the peaks which I imagine can only help, plus I walk for the second part of my journey which allied to leaving ridiculously over-early generally is alot less troublesome than anything involving bus travel on a schedule...
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Post by mrjrt on Oct 13, 2010 19:28:21 GMT
... and 4 minutes again tonight... It really is quite curious how the 313s didn't seem to have this problem. I wonder if it's a hardware issue or just a coincidence that it seems to have got worse lately. |
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Post by astock5000 on Oct 15, 2010 22:40:41 GMT
378225 was in service on the DC lines today. This unit was running on the ELL until recently. Has it been swapped with a 378/2 that was at Willesden, or a new one from Ashford, or doesn't New Cross need so many spare units now?
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