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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 8:27:46 GMT
Why is the roof of the special 38TS painted like that? I always remember them having a greyish black roof when they were in service (it would be in the 70s I'm referring to).
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Post by citysig on Aug 6, 2009 8:45:02 GMT
I believe the reverse in the westbound platform at Rayners Lane was called by the gent mentioned getting off at Harrow On The Hill by 3.1 above. He may have had a little influence in my ultimate decision, however someone a little higher up the chain also made a couple of requests. Couple this to the fact that Ruislip siding was, at that time, unavailable. Once again apologies for not keeping those who were viewing updates on here. I tried to find opportunity to post, but railway constraints (including Ruislip siding) meant it was impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 9:29:41 GMT
According to the info I have, the roof colour is accurate for an ex-works set. The colour was toned down very quickly to the dark grey that we all remember due to dirt from the tunnels. Personally, I think it looks superb and is a credit to all involved in the restoration and operation of the set. It is the first 38 TS that I have ridden on that has a varnished floor! I don't envy the person who had to chip away at the years of accumulated chewing gum from the slats! Can't wait for some more tours. Keep us all informed and I'll pronmise to book earlier next time .
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Post by elo10538 on Aug 6, 2009 9:34:14 GMT
Not sure how much higher up the chain this chap who got off at HOTH could be, but it mush still have been a little disappointing for some.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 9:41:15 GMT
Wouldn't it be nice to see an evening run of the 38TS when returning from the Upminster Depot Open Weekend to Ealing Common or Ealing Broadway full of passengers? As has already been mentioned, the reason for the platform change at Stratford going out on trip 1 was to make it easier for staff to segregate us from the rest of the public. The problem you would have at Upminster would be that the organisers would not be able to segregate us, the reason being that the District line operates out of 3 platforms, an island to itself, and one side of another island, where you have the down c2c on the other, it would be more difficult to entrain at Upminster. Really, you need a side platform for entraining, so as to segregate as best as possible the passengers for 1938 stock from the ordinary passengers. Why do you think it should be an evening run?
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Post by londonstuff on Aug 6, 2009 10:38:57 GMT
My photos from the first run are here: www.flickr.com/photos/9112609@N02/sets/72157621956837088/I'd like to add my thanks to all the people who helped organise the trip and the people there on the day (with stewards letting us know water was available, etc). The Station Supervisor (Paul?) at Charing Cross was as friendly as ever and the whole trip was really worthwhile - thanks Peter Hendy got a cab ride at Stratford and stayed on until London Bridge
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 6, 2009 11:07:40 GMT
Wouldn't it be nice to see an evening run of the 38TS when returning from the Upminster Depot Open Weekend to Ealing Common or Ealing Broadway full of passengers? As has already been mentioned, the reason for the platform change at Stratford going out on trip 1 was to make it easier for staff to segregate us from the rest of the public. The problem you would have at Upminster would be that the organisers would not be able to segregate us, the reason being that the District line operates out of 3 platforms, an island to itself, and one side of another island, where you have the down c2c on the other, it would be more difficult to entrain at Upminster. Really, you need a side platform for entraining, so as to segregate as best as possible the passengers for 1938 stock from the ordinary passengers. Why do you think it should be an evening run? As has already been mentioned in another thread, the District is closed between Barking & Upminster that weekend anyway- until the TUESday morning.
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Post by elo10538 on Aug 6, 2009 11:36:19 GMT
Segregating those passengers for a special Railtour is not an impossibility at stations which don't share the particular layout at Stratford, so that should not prove a sticking point in regards to Upminster. Railtours have started at Ealing Common westbound, for instance, which just needed enough Stewards to inform those on the platform what was going to happen when the 38TS arrived and ensure only those entitle to join the train did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 12:12:51 GMT
As has already been mentioned, the reason for the platform change at Stratford going out on trip 1 was to make it easier for staff to segregate us from the rest of the public. The problem you would have at Upminster would be that the organisers would not be able to segregate us, the reason being that the District line operates out of 3 platforms, an island to itself, and one side of another island, where you have the down c2c on the other, it would be more difficult to entrain at Upminster. Really, you need a side platform for entraining, so as to segregate as best as possible the passengers for 1938 stock from the ordinary passengers. Why do you think it should be an evening run? As has already been mentioned in another thread, the District is closed between Barking & Upminster that weekend anyway- until the TUESday morning. Hence why the 1938 stock, and all other museum exhibits would be moving at some point on either the Tuesday or Wednesday. How do you reckon they will move the Q stock, drag it "dead" or put it on a low loader?
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Post by citysig on Aug 6, 2009 14:54:33 GMT
Not sure how much higher up the chain this chap who got off at HOTH could be, but it mush still have been a little disappointing for some. Well, as said, it's a delicate balancing act between what enthusiasts desire and what the passenger service dictates (don't forget, before my family commitments took over I could have been one of the disappointed.)
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Post by 21146 on Aug 6, 2009 16:43:12 GMT
Segregating those passengers for a special Railtour is not an impossibility at stations which don't share the particular layout at Stratford, so that should not prove a sticking point in regards to Upminster. Railtours have started at Ealing Common westbound, for instance, which just needed enough Stewards to inform those on the platform what was going to happen when the 38TS arrived and ensure only those entitle to join the train did. Surely it's possible to control entry to the train by using the butterfly cocks?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 16:48:12 GMT
Segregating those passengers for a special Railtour is not an impossibility at stations which don't share the particular layout at Stratford, so that should not prove a sticking point in regards to Upminster. Railtours have started at Ealing Common westbound, for instance, which just needed enough Stewards to inform those on the platform what was going to happen when the 38TS arrived and ensure only those entitle to join the train did. Surely it's possible to control entry to the train by using the butterfly cocks? What are butterfly cocks?
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Post by andypurk on Aug 6, 2009 17:15:48 GMT
Segregating those passengers for a special Railtour is not an impossibility at stations which don't share the particular layout at Stratford, so that should not prove a sticking point in regards to Upminster. Railtours have started at Ealing Common westbound, for instance, which just needed enough Stewards to inform those on the platform what was going to happen when the 38TS arrived and ensure only those entitle to join the train did. Surely it's possible to control entry to the train by using the butterfly cocks? It certainly is. This was how the passengers were loaded onto the run from Russell Square - Ealing Broadway after the Northern line event on 21st June.
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Post by greengiant on Aug 6, 2009 18:03:49 GMT
Hello everyone. First post on this forum but a long time reader/lurker . While I can't match the quality of some peoples images on here I'd like to share with you two videos I took whilst on the trip, now on youtube: From Stratford to West Hampstead: Part 1The charing Cross branch and a walkaround the station: Part 2I also have a few images to upload from the trip aswell. Special thanks also has to go to everyone involved for the trip . Graham.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 18:58:27 GMT
Fasinating videos there greengiant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 19:00:46 GMT
What are butterfly cocks? Device on the outside of a train which enable one set of doors to be opened on a car.
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Post by Chris W on Aug 7, 2009 7:27:49 GMT
OMG There's a photo of myself and THC sat in 10012 as well... [glow=red,2,300]aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh[/glow] ;D ;D ;D
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Post by ducatisti on Aug 9, 2009 15:28:17 GMT
Yes, that was a good run. My friend (who is not a regular tube enthusiast) had a good time too, which suggests it was pitched very well. Here are a small number of pics. flickr.com/gp/27565507@N06/5s1r88
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2009 18:46:27 GMT
The whole trip (I was on the first one) was amazing! Thank you very much to those who organised and ran it!
EDIT: I will post my photos and video of a Charing Cross platform walkthrough eventually (as soon as I will recover from current illness).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 22:10:20 GMT
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