We're getting tired of closures

The biggest problem with computers is that they do exactly what they are programmed to do!

They are not unreliable at all but they are the product of one or more programmer's limited imagination!!!

Difficult.

You are making an assumption that all computers run M$.

AFAIK 96 stock does not have any M$ software on board (unless a rolling stock technican has a diagnostic laptop connected, but then you'd be in depot anyway). I'd need to check on that to be 100% - but right now I'm 99% certain theres no M$ involved.


Nor does the present day Jubilee line signals control system at Neasden (it is OS2 - not Windows). I know that for sure - night shift routine task twice per week to reboot all 56 processors - and that included the six remote LNP and the SMD tower processors.


at least I don't get involved with that any more, on a different line now.


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Nick

Wasn't the Central lines control room using windows 3.1 or something?

Some newer cash machines use windows 2000; its always amusing to see the screen when theyve crashed.

I have no knowledge on this point ... but I'd suggest it could be true ... S stock is Bombardier ''Movia'' which is closely linked to main line ''Electrostar''.

357/375/377 of the first and main big batches are Windows 95. ((I'm not sure what systems are actually on this though.))

I say main big batches because that refers to what are now the C2C / SET / SN fleets used to replace Mk.1 etc stock, ordered 2000-2002.

I can't say what is in later classes such as 376s, the current 377s such as 377/5, or 378s.

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Nick

Ahh, thanks for that

Even with severe delays, you can get trains in quick succession. You might then get a 10 minute gap, or even more!

Full line closure now on Saturday 10th,still Stratford-West Hampstead shuttle Sunday 11th.

Do you suppose the system would be better if there were another 20 years without upgrading signalling, replacing track, sleepers, repairing escalators and the like?

Having grown up in South London, away from regular Tube usage, my strongest memories of arriving at Victoria or London Bridge Underground Stations of a weekend were dirt, grime, decay and crowding. Now, the system is reactively clean, slowly being repaired, being expanded and upgraded. Yes, this takes time, and yes it's a hassle; believe me, having also lived in East London I wrote emails complaining when last year Tfl closed sections or all of the Jub, District and DLR over the same weekend. But I understand that progress takes time. Rome was not built in a day and neither will The Underground system be up to scratch overnight!

Here here. As for fares, I will start they are stupidly high!

I'm just frustrated with the farce that are the weekend engineering works posters, and the replacement bus service arrangements (for North Greenwich – Stratford). For the past couple of weeks, we have been told at the beginning of the week that there will be NO replacement buses and thus relay this information to the passengers all week, only to be told on the Friday or Saturday morning that an arrangement for replacement bus services have finally been made. Then we are sent amendment posters for printing to the plotters on the main station of the group, only to find that the posters can't actually be sent to us until the Friday night.

But like I said, the posters are a farce. This week, we got two different posters for the weekend: One network-wide poster detailing all works on the system for 10/11 October, and another poster for Central London. Both had conflicting information regarding the Jubilee Line closures.

- We're told that we're not allowed to manually amend the posters or cross out the wrong information because we would get 'marked down for defacing the posters'.
- We're told that we're not allowed to take the Central London poster down (which has the contradictory information), because we would get 'marked down for failure to display a circuit poster'.

They wonder why morale is so low on stations these days – some of us actually give a t*ss about the passengers, and there are actually some passengers out there who do bother to look at the posters and check. So how do you think we look when they come up to us and say, "Oh – I see the Jubilee Line is running this weekend as it says on the poster," and you have to say, "You were looking at the wrong one."



One of our supervisors actually bothered to call up whoever/whatever penpusher was responsible for the communications or whatever regarding the posters. 55 Broadway's official stance on it: "Well – you've got to have the posters up. Just don't put them up next to each other."

WTF?!

But in Germany, France, Spain etc you pay basic rate of income tax at circa 40%. I'll comment primarily on Germany as I've lived there. After income (federal) tax you then pay a city tax, regional tax (Landes), tax for each radio you own, tax for each tv you own, tax for each car you own, tax if you are religious... the list goes on and on. So no, I don't favour a 'Continential' form of subsidy as it costs more in the long run and leaves me with less in my pocket! I've paid in excess of €200 for a Koeln-Frankfurt ICE return ticket before. So where is the subsidy there? This route uses one of the only pure ICE3 - high speed lines, and is a lesser distance than London-Birmingham. A further German example is that earlier this year the entire board of the DB run Berliner S-bahn were made sacked for not implementing safety improvements/checks on brakes that were recommended following a train failure/derailment. It has resulted in the seriously reduced (at one point Der Spiegel reported this as being by 70%) and the repairs/checks have not yet been completed.

I don't agree with a pure Thatcherite agenda of privatistion either. Simply put, nothing is that black and white.

Language, Timothy!

The Jubilee Line is going through the difficult regeneration that the little red line did: this time seems less rushed: a better level of maturity, you might say. ;D ;D

Just before you all rush out to celebrate getting a whole one day of weekend WTT10!
Tubelines have been granted additional closures 31st Oct/1st Nov & 14th/15th Nov which means, In addition to Waterloo-Stanmore closed North Greenwich-Stratford will also be shut!

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