We're getting tired of closures

If tubelines does fail and its remit taken back in company, will that effectively end the PPP structure? It'd be political suicide to try and keep flogging a dead horse; especially for the Mayor.

It should be noted that the Tories proposed full privatisation of the London Underground in 1997.

No doubt if they do want to disband PPP, there will be loads of contractors, sub contractors and staff who want huge payoffs for going back to the way things were!!

Disagree: both on whether that's what TfL wants, and on whether it'd be a good idea.

On the former, the Metronet collapse cost TfL an absolute fortune. While in an ideal world TfL management might prefer not to work with Tube Lines, I don't think anyone involved at a high level has any desire to see another nightmare like the Metronet administration.

On the latter, Tube Lines has massively outperformed both Metronet, and anything LU did when under government control. It's run by Bechtel, who're good at managing projects. The Jubilee upgrade is late, but not particularly late by the standard of upgrades on live railways in the UK - and TfL is getting compensation for the delays.

It's also good having a benchmark for the in-house teams on SSL and BCV to compare against.

The Stratford-Waterloo shuttle on Sunday is now cancelled,the entire line is closed for test train working.

30,000 (approx) crowd at Lords - lets close the Jubilee
25,000 (approx) crowd at Wembley, lets shut down the Met - or run a 10 min service.

Remind me how this is WORLD CLASS ?

Weekends used to be fairly enjoyable to work. Now, a complete nightmare.

I've lost count on the number of times I've been abused today over the engineering works. Trouble is I agree with the sentiments, although not the fact that somehow it's my fault......

So looking forward to my 12 hour shift tomorrow.

They've done it again,Tubelines have managed to get additional closures for the next 2 weekends.This weekend is a right mish mash and we're still not 100% about what's happening but as I understand it whole line closed Saturday,WAT-STR shuttle as booked Sunday from SOT till 15:00 then STR-NOG closed with WAT-NOG shuttle.The closure ends 21:00 Sunday but I'm not sure if the trains are going to be extended back to STR.The following weekend the whole line is closed both days.Hopefully will hear something more concrete tomorrow.

Was the source of info:
www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/23/london-underground-upgrade-delayed

to which you refer?

If so, you'll have noticed that the same source suggests a Circa £10m pcm penalty. I don't think we're going to be seeing Tube Lines going down the pan. Aside from which, can TFL really afford to absorb the costs of reintegrating Tube Lines work and debt within their own remit as they did with Metronet. It doesn't seem that likely. So should as you have suggested actually come to fruition, we could see the first Central Government bale out of a regional Transport Authority and the further demise of this country's public finances which won't help any transport upgrades or initiatives.

During operation of the North Greenwich to Waterloo shuttles, where will the train(s) be stabled?

Just like a pub lock-in ;D

Is this a record weekend for closures.?Welcome to one of the worlds great cities.Hello everybody.Wanna' travel around to see the sights,visit friends, see a football match,go to the cinema etc etc?
Well tough.The only lines,I can see, working without any sort of closure/works are the Central,Northern and Piccadilly.
What should be a weekend of pleasure,or maybe getting to work, becomes a nightmare of ducking and diving ,and working your way through the labyrinth of alternatives including the dreaded bus replacement services.
We are now reaping the ''rewards'' for years of underfunding and wrangling, procrastination and political dogma.