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Post by District Dave on Oct 19, 2008 14:16:32 GMT
The quick answer is that they should do - whistle boards are mandatory.
I'm afraid it's simply laziness on the part of the driver.
The norm on LU is that whistles should be used between 07:00 and 19:00; of course if a driver sees a hazard (person about the track etc.) the whistle must be used at any time.
The 38TS driver was simply obeying procedures.
Hope that helps!
(And no need to apologise for the question - I'm sure it's one that many others have been dying to ask but haven't! Please feel free to ask away - it's the reason this forum exists. Dave)
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Post by District Dave on Oct 17, 2008 8:45:55 GMT
they would do if past attempts to clear ed12 fails again Point taken , but it would not be the original plan to go beyond HSK!
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Post by District Dave on Oct 16, 2008 15:14:49 GMT
There is no means of reversing west to east from/to GRD at High Street via platforms 3 and 4. It would need to be a reversal from platform 2. The upshot is you'd end up taking your D-stock to Edgware Rd, which its not approved for. So, no point in District divers signing that corner of Cromwell Rd Jn. May be with S7 there could be a vague case.... Don't quite get your comments here! As you say trains could be reversed from P.2 at HSK so why the reference to Edgware Road - they wouldn't have needed to go near it!
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Post by District Dave on Oct 16, 2008 14:11:22 GMT
Firstly this incident occured on Tuesday, not yesterday.
Whilst I see your point about the use of the Circle between Gloucester Rd and HSK, the number of occasions when this would be used would probably not justify the work involved in getting the training done and then the maintaining of route knowledge.
Having read the incident report I think it's fair to say that everyone involved had their hands full just trying to get the incident resolved without trying to do all the 'add ons' you're suggesting.
There were already wrong direction moves, detrainments etc. etc. being sorted out and (though I haven't the information in front of me) these may also have influenced the suspension between South Ken and Embankment.
All in all there were enough issues to be sorted out without trying to pull rabbits out of hats to keep relatively smal services running for very little benefit to anyone involved.
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Post by District Dave on Sept 27, 2008 10:02:29 GMT
Nothing more I can say except to add my thanks to prjb and tunnelrat for their time, efforts and hospitality.
I think mention should also be made of the exemplary behaviour of all our members who attended - it helps to prove to the Powers that Be that we have our place in these consultation processes!
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Post by District Dave on Aug 22, 2008 17:04:33 GMT
It's ok to have one in your garden - but at least the ones I drive actually move !! Sorry Neil couldn't rsist that ! I'll try to remember to have a look in the cabinet on the offside and see if I can get some photos of the set up on a D Stock (unlessanyone beats me to it now I'm on annual leave fpr two weeks !
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Post by District Dave on Aug 22, 2008 7:17:29 GMT
Was/is it part of the station refurbishement that is being carried out at Upmin Bridge perhaps?
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Post by District Dave on Aug 22, 2008 7:16:00 GMT
I've never seen this - sounds like I'm unique in this!!!
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Post by District Dave on Aug 21, 2008 7:38:56 GMT
There is a route on the DVA though, I believe, for Upminster to Olympia. So you could Display Olympia destination and set the DVA up for it, from anywhere. OK - never noticed that one - probably as I've never looked (or needed to!).
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Post by District Dave on Aug 20, 2008 18:04:22 GMT
Yes - it cannot be displayed through the central area. So if a train were scheduled to go to Olympia from, say, Upminster, what would the DMI at Victoria display it as going to? Your question is I have to say entirely hypothetical. Though (possibly) the train could be timetabled to go to Olympia, it cannot be described as such - at least on the equipment the public sees on the platform describers or those on the trains. I don't know if the signallers train describers can handle such a diagram, but I don't think so. Normally westbound trains are diverted to OLY and will have to be announced as such. As stated for the platfom describers I *think* the train would have to run as far as Earls Court before it could be amended to OLY - I have to admit I haven't checked to see if there is an option - I'll happily stand corrected!
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Post by District Dave on Aug 20, 2008 13:50:02 GMT
I thought I've keen "Olympia" on the St.James's Pk DMI. Am I imaging things? Yes - it cannot be displayed through the central area.
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Post by District Dave on Aug 16, 2008 12:25:02 GMT
There was a total failure of the Connect radio system (at least on the District - I think other lines where affected too) at about 22:30 last night.
Trains were left to run empty until the close of traffic - presumably in case the service was restored.
Suffice it to say when I booked on at 05:15 this morning the system was still down and trains were again running empty at start of traffic.
The service was restored at about 06:30 and things started operating 'normally'.
I don't know what the cause of the problem but given previous occurences it sounds like another software glitch - that is speculation.
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Post by District Dave on Aug 15, 2008 17:03:29 GMT
Ah - I think Dave A has cracked it!
And it's a Friday......
I think it sounds like the whole world threw a sicky!
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Post by District Dave on Aug 15, 2008 16:59:58 GMT
Would they be diverted, terminate at Earls Court, or would Earls Court - Olympia also be suspended (I would guess the Olympia service would be suspended, because they seem to stop the Olympia shuttles whenever there's a problem on the District ). It depends on what has occured. If the failure/problem/whatever is likely to go on for a while then, yes, the OLY service will probably be suspended; on occasions the two trains would be told to remain at OLY and HSK respectively or they may be used to supplement services to other west end branches. The problem with terminating e/b trains at ECT is that it takes time to detrain in P.2 and then do the shunt move in 'the yard' as it's known. They may reverse the occasional one (as indeed they did with my train in this particular instance). The most usual solution is for the Edgware Road trains to be sent up to Mansion House and then they'll be sorted out later by means of short tripping (if necessary). But - as ChrisH said - it does depend on exactly where (and what) the problem is.
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Post by District Dave on Aug 15, 2008 9:49:00 GMT
Firstly welcome - and thanks for breaking your silence!!
I don't know any details of this - certainly there was nothing on the BBC London News travel service which gave indications of 'issues' on that service.
My best guess (and it is just that!) is that maybe the previous train was late running and was only just ahead of your train?
Pure speculation on my part!
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Post by District Dave on Aug 11, 2008 14:50:44 GMT
In respect of the signal in question at East Putney, surely if it is that badly sighted/confusing/the wrong side of the track/with repeater too far in advance then it should be reported and modified. It has been and to date there is no resighting planned for it AFAIK. As I understood it, both NR and LU management are desperate to reduce potential SPADS - or is that too simplisitc a view? No - not at all.
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Post by District Dave on Aug 11, 2008 14:45:29 GMT
Didn't bring it back to the platform - it was set back (i.e. wrong direction moved) behind the signal in question (ED151) and as then able to proceed to HSK. This was a quicker option than the points in advance of the train being secured. I was in the e/b platforms at ECT when it was occuring, so know for sure that it didn't come all the way back.
As suggested a couple of Wimblewares were diverted to Mansion House, the train I was on was reversed off the main after tipping out in P.2 at Earls Court.
No major problem really - the whole thing was sorted in about fifteen minutes.
There was no impact on the Circle line srvices due to where the incident occured.
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Post by District Dave on Aug 7, 2008 19:28:50 GMT
*Drags thread back on topic*
When was your photo taken then HB?
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Post by District Dave on Aug 7, 2008 11:38:00 GMT
Sorry to disappoint you chaps, but there are numerous draw up signals across the NR railway. They are performing the same function of allowing trains to draw up to a signal when the full overlap is unavailable and the signal in rear has a delayed yellow clearance to ensure the train is at or nearly at a stand. No specific advice is given for these signals as the aspect sequence is the normal yellow to red but with a reduced overlap available. A good example of this is both up and down fast lines at Watford Junction the platforms are protected by normal homes at full braking distance to the platform starters, but also an additional inner home is provided approx 100 yds on the approach to the platform with the overlap 1/3 into the platform. A train standing in the platform at the starter will normally be clear of the IBJ and the normal home signal will clear when a train is nearly at a stand allowing it to run up to the inner home. This can result in the interesting sight of a train in the platform one at the inner home some 250yds from the one in the platform and a third coming up to the normal home. The additional home is not the norm and normally the normal signalling is at full braking distances wit the draw up or warning applied with the delayed aspect. The Bakerloo has one on the up DC at Harlesden with WS24 capable of a delayed yellow when the signal at Willesden (WS22) has ony a reduced overlap available, but it rarely gets used. ** Bows to superior knowledge**
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Post by District Dave on Aug 6, 2008 20:18:56 GMT
Certainly the only one on the 'westboung' !!! National Rail per se don't have draw ups (AFAIK) - it's generally regarded as a hybrid as it's sort of on the cusp between the LU and NR signalling areas. None the less it's a diabolically sighted signal and one that's a real SPAD trap; I believe it was over-run very recently..... The T/Op was involved is a senior person and (IMHO) should have been far more aware of the hazard than appears to have been the case.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 30, 2008 11:39:39 GMT
I was due to leave ECMDT at 05:21 this morning - finally left at 06:22.
It was 10 points at TG that were the problem apparently - Traction Current was off all roads so there was no district or Picc service between Hamm and Acton Town until about 06:10. The problem was unresolved.
The route is secured for Ealing and no service to Richmond (as stated) - I believe they will not be able to look at the problem until after close of traffic tonight.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 26, 2008 20:18:52 GMT
The D Stock *are* bland and boring - "bland silver boxes" as a former Acton Town GD/MM and now Service Control Instructor once described them. Slab-sided and without even a waistrail cant. They've only improved since they were painted and even this of course was totally against the original concept which wouldn't even paint the roofs or apply roundels to the trailer cars... That's a matter of personal opinion - not a matter of fact; we are all entitled to our own views and opinions!
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Post by District Dave on Jul 24, 2008 13:38:50 GMT
Dave, if you don't mind - whats the make and model - no motherboard should ever do that, so i'd like to take it off my list of potential purchases!!! Is it possible that the motherboard had been configured differently from the default in the store? I'll try to rememebr to check when I'm next at home on the thing. I have a feeling it's an ASUS but not 100%; I'm also sure it will no longer be available - this was 3 years ago now. To be honest apart from that initial glitch it has been excellent - no problems with it whatsoever. I've done loads of other upgrades, additions etc, and it's been rock soilid. I can't see that it would have been fiddled with; AFAIK (or at least remember!) it was still sealed up when purchased - I certainly didn't need to change any of the default settings.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 24, 2008 11:26:04 GMT
ARE U SERIOS?!?!?!? I have NEVER heard of a motherboard manufacturer stupid enough to include ANY type of unilateral disk-reformatting software in its BIOS before! I sit in awe of such stupidity and can only imagine your shock when you discovered what it was doing... The only circumstances I can imagine this happening would be if the new BIOS was configuring the disks in a RAID array, it would then wipe the disks to create the array. The reason you've never heard of it is simple, no motherboard would unilaterally wipe a disk for no reason. Regards Steve Believe me - it happened!!! The was NO warning - NOTHING on the pacakging - NOTHING in the instruction manual which (believe me) I was following step-by-step and to the precise letter (be it lower or upper case ) I had even gone so far as buying a new motherboard from the same manufacturer as the failed one (though not the same model - that was out of production) to minimise (I thought)as many problems as I could anticipate. If it had carried any such warnings I'd have installed a different HD, let it do it's stuff and then (probably) used the 'old' main drive as a slave - none of which would have been a problem. I have to say if ever I find myself in the same situation again I'll be using clean HD when going through the process. Sayings such as 'once bitten, twice shy', 'learn from past experiences', 'don't fall into the same trap twice' etc. spring to mind!
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Post by District Dave on Jul 24, 2008 8:17:58 GMT
How could they get into Moorgate station? Where there's a will there's a way! You'd be amazed at how the vandals get around the system and - no - details will NOT be given here!!
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Post by District Dave on Jul 23, 2008 10:46:15 GMT
Tried that - didn't work for me either.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 23, 2008 8:48:11 GMT
As we all know, Dave duilt the main site using Net Objects; it's a good website building program and I too used it to create my District line photo site. The only trouble with it is, as we've both found, if yer computer goes South the website is lost forever (hence why Daves main site & my District line site are both dead in the water). Have you tried pulling the disk and plugging it in elsewhere? Just because you PC isn't working doesn't necessarily mean the data is lost from it. You may be able to pull the hard disk out and depending how brave you are either a) put the disk inside a different PC in addition to the disk already in there and see if you can access it that way (the difficult option) or b) You can buy an external box to mount the drive into which you can then plug into the USB port of a different PC (the safer option). While complete hard disk failures do happen, they are comparitively rare these days so you might be in luck accessing it via a different machine - even if the original machine is kaput. In my case it was actually a motherboard that failed. On replacement and 'firing up' for the first time, it unilaterally reformatted the hard disk - no warning - nothing! I found many others who'd been caught out on a forum but it ws too late by then . The problem I have is that much of the style of the site was my own creation - rather than one of the templates. The text is easy enough to deal with - I can simply cut and paste - but the photo galleries will take a vast amount of time trying to trace back all the photos to the originals etc. and I simply suffer from lack of time. Eventually I plan to rebuild the whole thing - possibly with a whoole new look - and to host it on a paid for server - especilly if I can get some sponsorship.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 18, 2008 17:17:13 GMT
What I'd like to know is if the forum is actually cited by name and URL in internal middle- and senior-management documents, either in the LU branch of TfL or within TfL itself. Yes, in places. Not at liberty to say QUITE how high up though........maybe our honourable leader may be able to say more. I've had a few hints that it may extend to Board level, though I don't know for sure. I have no idea if any direct quotes are ever used. Certainly a good few managers at 'Centurion' level read these pages, and I know they in turn roll it up further. But I don't want to over emphasise this; yes, it's great we are read 'internally' within TfL and if we widen thinking that's great. But I still stick to the original reason for the forum of being able to pass on accurate and informed information and for the business of the forum to be conducted in a well argued and convivial atmosphere.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 17, 2008 14:33:52 GMT
I've said it before and no doubt I'll say it again in the future ...... When I first started this forum I thougt that if it reached the 50ish mark I'd be very pleased, so you can guess how chuffed I am at this milestone! In fact, only today I've approved five new members - that's unusually high but not unique. I'd like to point out that the staff (admins and mods) are a great team - much goes on in the background that (we think) helps to keep things on an even keel and to try to anticipate developments and changes - thanks folks! Early members - I think you'd have to check on the dates for Jim and TheOneKea too - they I know were early members and contributors. Lets all keep the ball rolling and look forward to the next 500! But thanks to all of you who make this such an activ and enjoyable place.
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Post by District Dave on Jul 8, 2008 15:47:49 GMT
This sounds likely to me Dave as when a Mk 2 borrowed from BR as was, hauled by two battery locos ran the south side of the Circle on trials for a special, it was found to have fouled two platforms. A Stock I think has a wider gauge than all BR stock of the time. Can empty A Stock still run down from Rayners Lane to Acton Town in theory, as used to be the case to acess Actown Works? I assume that the roof height was much the same as D Stock, and thus a low-speed pass under bridges would be required if it was not banned. Yes, I certainly heard that (at the time) the A60's were the widest stock on any British railway. Yes, A60's regularly appear in Ealing Common depot when they are to be used on the test track in the South Ealing Area (if anyone's not familiar with it, have a look at www.trainweb.org/districtdave/html/on_the_test_track.html ). Transit under bridges between Rayners Lane and North Ealing is indeed done at reduced speed because of the raising of the track bed over the years. Mind, I've seen surface stock go under those bridges and it's not that close!
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