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Post by solidbond on Jun 8, 2006 16:02:20 GMT
soildbond, those are some great pictures! Thanks very much for those! While Mr Solidbond deserves the most credit for the pics, I think I'm right in saying I provided a small 'lead'.... Not sure exactly what you mean - the photos I linked to are all my own pictures, on my own website, which is no longer updated as I no longer have a freeserve account, and am thus unable to make any changes to the site
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Post by solidbond on Jun 6, 2006 19:07:07 GMT
I have a number of pictures on my (no-longer updated ) website HEREThe pictures were taken at Woodford when the three prototypes were put on public display. As to the question about the derailment at Neasden, it is true, and I believe that the cause was, allegedly, a motor falling off as it went over the points southbound approaching Neasden. (Goes to prove they built the 92 stock to the same standard as the prototypes - allegedly ;D)
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Post by solidbond on Apr 3, 2006 0:12:48 GMT
It certainly makes a pleasant change to see first making an effort When you say 'first' making an effort, AIUI, it is all down to one person - isn't that right aspect? ;D ;D
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Post by solidbond on Mar 17, 2006 15:51:33 GMT
I've worked on all except, the Victoria, Piccadilly and East London lines. I suppose you could also add the Jubilee line extension as it only went to Charing Cross when I was there. Although you have worked over part of the Piccadilly, haven't you Jim? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by solidbond on Mar 25, 2006 16:39:34 GMT
Air Condition Unit Cut Out Switch ? Correct ;D
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Post by solidbond on Mar 25, 2006 13:34:07 GMT
That was 5513/6513. It was fitted to the saloon in both cars - and bloody effective it was as well ;D ;D Unfortunately, the amount of water it produced had to go somewhere, so it was being dumped onto the track - not an ideal situation really, so the equipment was removed However, if you look in the trailer car, 6513, you can still see the ACUCOS marking on the cant rail for the switch to cut it out I thought it was just the trailer 6513 that had the equipment fitted? There were additional notices on the end doors advising customers to keep the windows shut. If memory serves this was done in the mid nineties (could be wrong though)? I stopped driving in 97 and had driven that unit with the A/C fitted. One of the problems with A/C on LU stock is that with the doors opening every few minutes the system doesn't get a chance to be very effective and is constantly working flat out to maintain the correct temperature. You could be right about it being just on the trailer - it was a long time ago ;D It must have been between 1993 and 1995 that it was fitted, as I left ERD in 1995 and it had been installed then. However, even with the doors opening every station, it WAS still very effective. I travelled from Edgware Road to East Ham on it one afternoon, and I have to say, despite it being hot and sweaty outside, the AC worked VERY well indeed - so well, I was half-tempted to go to Hammersmith and back to Barking again on the train ;D ;D ;D
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Post by solidbond on Mar 25, 2006 6:19:33 GMT
That was 5513/6513. It was fitted to the saloon in both cars - and bloody effective it was as well ;D ;D Unfortunately, the amount of water it produced had to go somewhere, so it was being dumped onto the track - not an ideal situation really, so the equipment was removed However, if you look in the trailer car, 6513, you can still see the ACUCOS marking on the cant rail for the switch to cut it out
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Post by solidbond on Mar 24, 2006 21:18:35 GMT
Yea, it had an electrical RPA (?) I believe. It sat at the bottom of Hammersmith 1 Road for a long time and gradually got robbed for spares until they couldn't put it back together again! They had even removed side panels to repair a unit that had a side swipe. I was on nights at Hammersmith (early nineties) when they took it away for scrap between a couple of brake vans/battery loco's. They boarded the sides up with chipboard. I remember thinking how short sighted it was. Even more short sighted than you may think It was actually sent to RFS in Doncaster, who were doing the refurb of C stock at that time, so they could use it for spares. Two weeks after it departed there was another side-swipe in HMS depot, resulting in side panel damage. But now they had to pay RFS to repair the damaged cars, as they didn't have the spares
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Post by solidbond on Jan 15, 2006 0:44:38 GMT
Nah - bit before my time - but I'm sure Dave knows more about that era than me ;D ;D
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Post by solidbond on Jan 13, 2006 22:48:28 GMT
I've actually got a 'Local Road & Rail Timetable' for Romford, Brentwood, Grays, Tilbury and District from 14th May 1958. It shows the very train Q8 mentions, albeit slightly earlier. It shows the times as Upm 0341, Hornchurch 0347 Dag East 0354, Dag Hthwy 0357, Becontree 0401, Upney 0405, Barking 0408, East Ham 0413, Upton Park 0417, Plaistow 0420, Bromley 0425 and underneath says 'Steam train to Fenchurch St.' ;D
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Post by solidbond on Dec 19, 2005 23:28:36 GMT
For those District train staff who have been to Upminster in the last week or so, you may have noticed the LU Information board sitting outside the signal cabin on the walkway to the accommodation block. It seems this was stolen from West Ham, and left on a train, which was discovered at Upminster ;D
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Post by solidbond on Dec 7, 2005 22:42:33 GMT
A number of additional gaps have been installed across the network as additional protection during engineering works. They are usually at a place, just beyond a reversing point, whether there is a substation or not, to ensure that if a train went beyond the reversing point, it would not be able to enter the section where engineering work is being carried out.
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Post by solidbond on Nov 8, 2005 21:10:48 GMT
There was a husband and wife crew at Loughton in the 80's who were rostered together as well
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Post by solidbond on Nov 4, 2005 11:25:37 GMT
Right - I have edited and deleted a number of posts in this topic. While we have no problem with controversial posts about TRANSPORT or transport related matters, we as admins WILL NOT ALLOW this forum to become another breeding ground for religious intolerance. I fully agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we will not allow any posts that criticise someones religious beliefs. This forum is about Transport. If you wish to discuss religious or racial matters, please do so in another forum. This is NOT the place for itand it will NOT be tolerated. Now can we PLEASE get this forum back to what it used to be? A place to discuss TRANSPORT, mainly LU. This thread will not be locked, however, if the posts continue in the same vein then it will be removed.
Please note, a copy of the original messages which I edited and deleted have been kept for reference purposes only.
Thank You SB on behalf of the admin team
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Post by solidbond on Oct 30, 2005 18:52:20 GMT
I am not saying that staff are MUST work on Christmas day just that a service should be provided. We had a half hour headway from end to end of the line with certain stations closed and there was traffic at those that were open. Although christmas work was on the roster you did not HAVE to work as there was always someone who would change duties with you if you did not. You only worked 4 hours anyway and that was at treble time. Those willing to work were mostly the younger guys that were single or had young families to bring up. The older men stayed home. Thsi is where I had the abvantage over some most others in that once I got to be a Driver I could do pop's turn if he did not want it. So you see that there were advantages in working at Christmas. But things have changed dramatically since trains last ran on Xmas day on the underground. More people have cars and are thus able to transport themselves to wherever they wish to go, thus reducing the need for the tube. Also, since the advent of Company Plan, we are now on a salary, so, as has been mentioned above, although there may be an initial large financial incentive to work Xmas day, that would soon be whittled down, and then Xmas day will be classed as a normal working day, and then they will increase the service, (whether anyone is using it or not ) and more staff will have to work, until there is a full service running on Xmas day. As Citysig has mentioned, every year the Boxing day service seems to be increased a little bit more, extra stations are opened, until, in a few years time, Boxing day will be running just like a normal Sunday service. And we don't get paid any extra for working Boxing day either
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Post by solidbond on Oct 24, 2005 21:51:18 GMT
As has been mentioned previously on this forum The A was for Amersham, ie the electrification of the Met line to Amersham, C for Circle and D for District. Thus there was never a B stock in this particular sequence
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Post by solidbond on Sept 17, 2005 23:45:39 GMT
Ah - then I guessed correctly about their purpose. The "MR" plates I mentioned appear to convey the exact same information. Why "TL" though? I saw these plates on the south side of the Circle - surely "DR" or "OS" would have been more logical? I think, and I stress that it is only a guess, that they indicate the type of structure as well. My guess is that TL stands for 'Tunnel'. This is based on the fact that other plates show 'CW' (Covered Way), G (Gantry?). I have also seen 'V' and, IIRC, 'PC'. I thought 'V' could be viaduct, but that doesn't seem appropriate for where I have seen them. Anyone else got any ideas? Tom?
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Post by solidbond on Sept 14, 2005 7:33:48 GMT
I don 't believe the official figures because they are propaganda . On the day after the bombing LUL claimed passenger usage was back to normal - nonsense . I work on the Picc and numbers especially cattle class are well down whatever the official figures say. And where did you see that? I certainly never saw anything on 8th July to say that passenger usage was back to normal. In fact, a few weeks after, LU said that passenger numbers were down approx 30%. I work on the District, and I can assure you that the numbers travelling is now back to pretty much what it was before 7/7.
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Post by solidbond on Sept 13, 2005 7:05:45 GMT
Not sure why you should disbelieve the official figures, but from my own experiences of the last couple of weeks, I would say they are pretty much back to normal levels.
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Post by solidbond on Aug 24, 2005 18:53:35 GMT
Rest assured that the T/Op who picked us up at Gunnersgury has been duly thanked - though how he worked out who you lot were is a complete mystery to me! Were we THAT obvious? Mind, he is a New Zealander, so maybe he's got some strange Maori powers! Having spoken to him, it seems that the sight of lots of cameras and video cameras was a bit of a giveaway ;D ;D
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Post by solidbond on Aug 9, 2005 6:05:56 GMT
You'll probably find out in the next few weeks - just wait till the Notting Hill Carnival During the Carnival, Ladbroke Grove station is usually closed, making Westbourne Park the main access and exit point for a large number of the people attending the Carnival
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Post by solidbond on Aug 5, 2005 20:40:33 GMT
Can I ask if anyone has actually checked this with 'Warwickshire police'? This sounds just like all the hoax virus alerts that go around saying 'This has been confirmed by Microsoft/IBM etc etc.' I have just checked the Warwickshire police website, and surprise surprise, there is no mention of any such problem with the ICE idea.
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Post by solidbond on Jul 29, 2005 23:00:33 GMT
Well, my interest goes back a long time (not as long as Dave's obviously ) when I was interested in London's buses. As time went by, I took an interest in the rest of the service provided by London Transport, and started to get an interest in the Underground. With the changes that happened to the bus network in London, ie privatisation, my interest transferred to the Underground (plus the fact that by that time I was working for them ;D) These days, my main interest lies in the history and the unusual aspect of the Underground, ie things like the layouts at places like Earl's Court in years gone by, which is why I find Harsig's old signalling diagrams so fascinating ;D
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Post by solidbond on Sept 6, 2005 18:12:13 GMT
I'm surprised that Sarah lacks the tractive effort to replace the 08 - I wonder if it will ever happen to find its way into the sidings next to West Ruislip, or better yet, on the main... Do you know if the 20 will appear at Upminster anytime soon? MetApp once said that Metrobungle intended to buy/rent/lease a 20 and paint it in the corporate livery, and use it to haul D stock to Romford for dispatch during refurbishment. Not sure what is happening about the 20, but the last I heard is that Class 66s will be used to transfer the D stock to/from Upminster depot, one each end of the train, and will involve quite a bit of shunting about in UPM depot, as the D stock will have no shoe gear when they return, so the whole train will go into the depot, then the country end 66 will uncouple, the other 66 will shunt the D stock off to another road, collect the next D stock to go, then shunt that back to couple up to the other 66 ready to leave the depot I also understand that all these moves will happen at night, which should please the local residents ;D
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Post by solidbond on Jul 24, 2005 22:24:16 GMT
Just to add to Dave's comments, we realise that there are some people who post on here as guests, although they are signed up members, when using different PCs. We would remind those members that it is easy to change your password by signing in and then selecting the 'profile' button at the top of the page, and then choosing 'modify profile' This can make it easier for you to choose a password that is easy to remember for use on other PCs. We would also like to stress that we will NOT pass the e-mails provided by members of this forum to ANY third parties, without express permission.
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Post by solidbond on Jul 20, 2005 22:38:57 GMT
Try Epping to Theydon Bois too - thats quite fast... ;D Ahh - Epping to Theydon Bois on a 62TS - leave Epping in series to get over the points, then shut off and coast - and you were STILL doing 50mph on the approach to TB ;D ;D TB to Debden was also quite fast, except that while I was on the line there was a TSR (Temp Speed Restriction) of 30 mph for the REALLY fast part
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Post by solidbond on Sept 24, 2005 12:36:43 GMT
Remember, if anyone wants a copy of both series 1 & 2 of 'The Tube' on DVD, drop me a PM for details.
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Post by solidbond on Oct 7, 2005 19:21:32 GMT
Ok - so the cost wasn't all just down to the one station However, since the original line, as far as possible, used existing viaducts bridges etc, to keep costs down, and as Harsig stated, the trains were built to keep costs down, when the extension to Bank was agreed, it meant new rolling stock, as it would be running in tunnels, lengthening platforms on the existing DLR network, as the new trains would be 2x2 car units, instead of 1x2 car unit, modifying the signalling for the new longer trains as well as the cost of tunnelling and the new station itself
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Post by solidbond on Oct 7, 2005 18:23:09 GMT
Those doors were, I understand, an economy measure, being more akin to Bus doors. The original line and all its equipment was built to a set budget. The figure if I remember correctly, was something like 77 million pounds and it was a case of buying as much railway as possible for that price. Yup - 77 million it was. What always made me laugh was that they built the whole DLR (first incarnation) for 77 Million, then spent double the amount, 150 million, just to add one more station - Bank
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Post by solidbond on Oct 8, 2005 20:21:06 GMT
Perhaps it might be an idea when Edgware Road closes and Hammersmith re-opens to have both Hammersmith and Barking H&C men trained to do Wimblewares with Barking also becoming a H&C only depot. Perhaps Parsons Green should only stable 'C' stock too. This would let Earl's Court (which by-the-way should be moved to Ealing Common depot or Acton Town) and Upminster men only work 'D' stock trains. Couple of little problems with that First, Hammersmith H&C depot HAS now re-opened - but it is not replacing Edgware Road, but supplementing it Also, there are no train crews based at Parsons Green anymore - they are all based at Earl's Court. There is no chance of the train crew depot at Earl's Court being moved to Acton, as that would remove the chance of having reliefs at Earl's Court, without still having spares and therefore Duty Managers at Earl's Court. At the moment, Upminster drivers DO only work D stock trains, as do Barking District drivers (with the exception of Instructor Operators and 'Pool' operators) The other problem with getting the H&C drivers to operate the 'Wimbleware' service is that it would then involve even more drivers having to be trained in Network Rail rules, thus increasing the training, as well as the annual refreshers - and that costs MONEY
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