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Post by Alight on Jan 4, 2008 16:09:37 GMT
I actually was mainly refering to them sounding exactly the same as I knew they had technically a different type system. They all stress the line names "DISTRICT" for example and are much different to Emma Clarke's on the Central, Victoria and Bakerloo Lines. But yeah probably slightly different
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You are bloody joking me!? Even the British museum was a better option! I mean they got rid of university college hospital at Warren Street because they realised it didn't really apply to the entire 7 million people in London. Now I know some may call me discriminative towards Blind people and the like but I expect my house to be mentioned at piccadilly station x if their going to do that! Its just simply too long sorry! (In fact I think they've taken it away anyways on the Piccadilly last 5 times Ive been there)
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Post by Alight on Jan 3, 2008 20:14:56 GMT
The reason why I assumed is because the I'm sure the C stock Wimbledon to Edgware Road sevices sound exactly the same as the D stock? (because they are naming the same stations).
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Post by Alight on Jan 2, 2008 20:35:19 GMT
But it had alights before? I believe so, in fact I don't think the D stocks have changed. They are due an update very soon for the East London closure, so it may change then. I expect London Overground will make it's debut in the announcements at the same time. For the LO probably when tht enew sotock arrives. Picc will need to update some recordings for the Heathows in March 2008. Regarding D Stock, I meant it had alights for my jouney before I got to Tower hill. I dont know if this was an error anyhow as I assumed they had changed them for exits since It uses the same system as the C stock I should think (only including a DMI). Dot Matrix is very good with its single station name and then the terminus (like the Jubilee) as this is really what we need these days compared to lengthy chunks of text.
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Post by Alight on Jan 2, 2008 20:06:50 GMT
But it had alights before?
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Post by Alight on Jan 2, 2008 19:20:18 GMT
The District Line train I was on today still used "Alight" instead of "Exit" but at Tower Hill everything was not included except for the DLR and National Rail.
So it wasn't as bad as many of you make out; all it was was:
"Please Mind the Gap between the train and the platform. This is Tower Hill. Change here for the DLR from Tower Gateway and National rail services from Fenchurch Street"
The sound system too was superior - speakers I recon evenly distributed with a suitable volume; it matched Piccadilly quality. When compared to other lines in particular the Bakerloo and Victoria which only provide speakers in the seating areas.
But the Emma Clarkes sounded very different to the ones on the Bakerloo/Victoria Line?
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In addition I can announce the Northern Line does have Moorfield eye hospital as a "change".
I believe this makes the Central Line the only to not have any exits correct me if Im wrong? (Not including met or W&C)
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Post by Alight on Dec 26, 2007 20:39:05 GMT
Has anyone noticed the C Stock lady is now telling people to EXIT at Earl's Court for the Exhibition Centres and EXIT at Southfields for Wimbledon Lawn Tennis? Are you not allowed to ALIGHT anymore? Was that too posh?? Yep! (: All of Emma's (in other words metronet) I believe have changed over to exit, or will be changing over. The Piccadilly therefore is the ONLY line on the LU which uses "alight" now. So summary can be seen as follows: Bakerloo - Exit Victoria - Exit C/D stocks - Exit Central - I havn't ever known this line to announce monuments but will look out tomoz if I use it for Oxford Circus. I guess it will be exit once updated. Jubilee - Exit Northern - change (possibility it could of been changed however) Piccadilly - Alight
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Post by Alight on Dec 22, 2007 19:24:59 GMT
The old skool style that sounded like a news reader-made one listen! It did too !! Also at Bank Central Line, two diferent lengths for peak and off peak and some sort of odd chime before hand. Finishing with "Stand clear of the doors, please" TOTAL authority, no messing about and only at stations where it is needed ! Let's have that recording back ! (It's still used at Embankment, northbound Northern Line, isn't it? I'm sure it was when i was there earlier this year !) Yes the TOTAL authority were the days! Now they try not to offend so much by being a bit calmer. Im yet to hear a female voice say it. The stern man is just so funny. But as many adults say, "Information Overload" comes to mind. I mean the other day waiting 15 mins for a Picc train north bound at Finsbury, it was just constant bloody announcements on a loop about 20 differnet kinds - SOO annoying.
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Post by Alight on Jan 2, 2008 19:49:50 GMT
I thought it was pretty decent when I went on Saturday. Very Very good for tourists and very informative with a superior sophisticated layout to what it had before in which I cringed at some of it. Everything was nice and modern and what I like to see. It even gave the old strap hanger a little display board very neat indeed.
The best bit for me was the future proposal section e.g. DLR and Victoria/subsurface stocks. There was also an interesting map section. I think they could do with an extra Underground carraige for more variety such as some at the Acton Depot which never see the light of day normally but there is probably no room.
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Post by Alight on Mar 14, 2008 22:56:25 GMT
Quite off the above, but why arn't Line diagrams included on TFL anymore? www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/1108.aspxSuch a shame, as I did like to read them, unless there is another way of accessing?
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Post by Alight on Feb 17, 2008 20:00:57 GMT
I believe its up to the panel whether it is on auto-evac or not. I'm guessing LU would not dream of having this due to disturbing the quality of service, if a false alarm.
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Post by Alight on Feb 17, 2008 16:20:03 GMT
That sounds about right; especially with the two stage alarm system "Alert" and "Evacuate" although the former only being present in the control room.
On some of the Control panels, they have yellow/pink/green(?) stripes which once lead me to believe they were subsurface line diagrams! These are on display in one of the Ashfield House training rooms.
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Post by Alight on Feb 17, 2008 15:21:24 GMT
Hi all,
I was wondering how the fire alarm systems work on London's Underground in terms of system integration. For example are all the stations interlinked in groups to one big panel? i think i recall seeing some detectors on the side of tunnels as the 1973 stock slowed down.
Often at stations, I see no evidence what so ever of smoke detectors, and only occasionally see one of the sounders. I read on another thread, mentioning of the evacuation alert being a "recorded announcement" e.g. "A fire has been detected, please evacuate" however I often see actuall fire sounders instead (the red circular ones).
Many thanks and best wishes,
Alex
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Post by Alight on Dec 23, 2007 20:19:02 GMT
I could remember being in the class at Ashfield House and our trainer saying, "Repeater signals are always X, never Y or Z", but couldn't remember which was which - though I was fairly sure yellow was right. Ha Ive been to one of those at Ashfield (: Okay between you lot and I, I can say Emma Clarkes has NOT been sacked despite what the media says and will still be used for London Underground DVAs hence the recent ones. This is going by an e-mail of mine from London Underground
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Post by Alight on Dec 27, 2007 10:19:12 GMT
The great thing about the districts current green is precisely that its not too dark or light; a dark green and a light green can thus both be added. true.
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Post by Alight on Dec 26, 2007 14:10:02 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the Fleet Line was shown on maps as lilac before it became the Jubilee Line. I agree Lilac/mauve colour in contrast to the dark magenta of the met. Gold is another rather naf posibility. I remember Nicholas Crane on map man using a "bottle green" for his fantasy line...Personally another shade of green isn't a good idea as the District lines uses a very moderate shade which is not too dark, not too light; unlike a good contrast in the vic and picc.
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Post by Alight on Jan 21, 2008 20:01:24 GMT
I just recieved an email from Metronet.
They are looking into whether the litter announcement should be taken away on the Victoria Line and how words can be phrased. For example they mention in particular the "Alight" for "Exit".
Also the Victoria Line says "Stand clear of the closing doors" and I argued they could use what the Bakerloo Line does "Please stand clear of the doors" but they say they are looking into it as commandive tone can be a good thing.
Overall I was pleased by my level of customer service (:
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Post by Alight on Dec 30, 2007 17:06:23 GMT
The Northern Line has quite a problem. It says for example "the next station is KXSP" and then does not continue to announce the interchanges. there were some 95TS that didn't have Celia as the DVA, so basically it would be- "The next station is Moorgate, change for" etc Whod did they have before then? And when was Celia introduced because I know she sounds nothing like the Celia on the Jub? I think one thing the Northern Line should drop is the "Main Line and suburban rail services" and additionally all the rubbish at Euston which could more simply be "Change for Northern Line services to other destinations"
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Post by Alight on Dec 27, 2007 18:29:34 GMT
The Northern Line has quite a problem. It does the opposite to the Docklands Light Railway.
It says for example "the next station is KXSP" and then does not continue to announce the interchanges.
And then at the station it starts listing everything such as all the platforms at Camden Town, when by that time we're all off!
Pointless if you ask me!
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Post by Alight on Dec 23, 2007 20:29:02 GMT
*I think the Jubilee Line has a good short and sweet example of how a DMI should work.
*I think they should cut out random alights such as "The Royal National Institute of the blind" or "University College hospital" because many of the tourists really dont need to know as they are hardly tourist attractions. Its as if they are doing it for the sake of having an alight. I think the Victoria Line from last time I went on has actually got rid of the latter however the former at KCSP is still there!
*Finally I think "Let customers off the train first please" is one of the most pointless as the people who this applies to are on the platform!!
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