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Post by neilw on Aug 16, 2011 8:39:23 GMT
I think they came from Gamages? in Oxford street, I was only little, far too young to build any kits, but I had to have them as they were "Underground"!
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Post by neilw on Aug 15, 2011 17:14:20 GMT
I recently came across some of the wooden roof and flared floor formers whilst rummaging about at home.......An unfinished project from 50 years ago, nothing new there, then!
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Post by neilw on Aug 13, 2011 11:34:07 GMT
some of mine are from auto marine, some are from"Widney"
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Post by neilw on Jul 22, 2011 11:48:09 GMT
at one time ISTR that the LT museum offered signs made by the original supplier, so they might know..........
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Post by neilw on Mar 23, 2011 15:58:17 GMT
been in the garden this afternoon, so took the opportunity for a measure.......the marker lights and tail lights are both 5 inches in diameter, so the chosen sizes aren't too bad, must just be the way I am looking at them, sorry!
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Post by neilw on Mar 23, 2011 10:33:40 GMT
returning to the thread, I'm not sure about the article-the tail lights seem oversize, and the front marker lights oversize and too bright for what would then be just filament lamps. Has anyone done better?
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Post by neilw on Mar 18, 2011 17:26:51 GMT
terrible news......condolences to Dave's family and those of you on here lucky enough to count him as a freind
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Post by neilw on Mar 15, 2011 18:01:04 GMT
how are shunt signals illustrated on signal cabin diagrams? Looking at some pictures they are marked only (ie no actual representation of indication), yet on others they are not even shown, whilst on others (like Harsig's Avatar) there appears to be a lamp to show the position. I guess all three could be right depending on era? Many thanks
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Post by neilw on Jan 18, 2011 17:12:16 GMT
Redbridge station was built cut-and cover. There was never any plans for an extra track AFAIK
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Post by neilw on Dec 29, 2010 12:39:58 GMT
The supplier of the genuine labels etc is Tearne and Sons Ltd, 41-45 Hanley St Birmingham B19 3SP 0121 359 1717. They are very helpful and have an extensive back-catalogue available. Be warned, however, they are not cheap. That said, "obstructing the doors causes delay......." was £2.00 ea last time I got some. The sales lady there is very helpful (and patient) when you try to describe what you are after. Do not alight from moving train
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Post by neilw on Dec 28, 2010 13:21:59 GMT
I have an Underground Guide (timetable) for 1966 which shows the ones which passengers can use, and a WTT from 1964 showing them all, as Reganorak correctly describes. I can also remember the sounds of the nightly coal train shunting at Newbury Park, waking me up as a kid with progressive clank clank clank of the wagons. Not that listening to trains was a problem, obviously!
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Post by neilw on Dec 21, 2010 14:12:13 GMT
metroland, your conversions are looking good! It is lucky that the EFE models are slightly too narrow at that point as it helps with the mod (it was also handy that I could pop into the garden for a measure-up of the real thing, not today though, absolutely freezing here!) Regarding cable runs, there is a very detailed thread from a few months ago with some excellent (as always) info from our freind Railtechnician which explains everything you need to know about pipes and cables. It's headed "cable run info sought please". I am still experimenting with the Radley Models hangers but am still not 100% happy and need to find some way of making the intermediate ones which just hang off the air main.
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Post by neilw on Dec 21, 2010 10:07:27 GMT
many thanks Railtechnician, very useful info for we modellers. On the subject of shoe positioning, here is a photo of my prototype conversion grafting the EFE sideframes onto the Metromodels bogie. The trick is to thin the sides down to the point where the outside of the shoebeams line up with the outside of the solebar, as they do on the real thing As I model in EM, this puts the shoes in the right place relative to the conductor rail. I showed my prototype to John Polley when he visited me last year, and it was from here that he developed his "product", albeit slightly different to mine-I use the bogie upside down to give more clearance above the centre conductor rail, etc
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Post by neilw on Dec 19, 2010 13:08:06 GMT
re the pick-up shoes, they are the right height when hanging without a conductor rail, which is why they are a tad low when the rail itself should be supporting them. They are also slightly inboard of where they should be as the width between the shoebeams is slightly undersize. If you use the metromodels bogie with the EFE sideframes grafted on this can be put right, although as said, the average viewer would be hard-pushed to see the shoes at all!
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Post by neilw on Dec 18, 2010 17:00:09 GMT
Have a look on P34 of January's Railway Modeller, there is a layout using the Peco conductor rail and pots and it looks very good. As you say the problem of 00 being too narrow to scale could be exagerated by the extra two rails, but I think this looks pretty good (only marred by the pots not being on adjacent sleepers as they generally should). He says the layout is a HO/00 comprimise, but that would still make the track 16.5mm presumably?
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Post by neilw on Dec 18, 2010 14:20:06 GMT
sorry Charlie J, I think you posted whilst I was typing away!
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Post by neilw on Dec 18, 2010 14:13:44 GMT
The correct 150lb/yard conductor rail is available from the scalefour society, as are the correct insulating pots which allow for the difference in height of the pos and neg rails. They are very fiddly but spot-on accurate. The three types of ramps are also available. I suspect they are from the same supplier as the ones from C and L, who also do the pots but not quite as good (but less fiddly) There is some great info about 3rd and 4th rail, including the pictures of the ramps you need at homepage.ntlworld.com/russelliott/3rd-4th.htmlWhilst a bit fiddly, they really do make a difference......
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Post by neilw on Dec 5, 2010 15:39:19 GMT
Can't answer the first part, but the reason for "weak field selected" being shown to the whole world was/is to stop it being used on those sections of line where it would cause the train to exceed the max line speed. The Met is a good example-in the city sections you need good acceleration but not too high a speed. The basic motor design gives you this. By weakening the field, the motor will run up to a higher speed, at the expense of some acceleration. The switch in/out therefore catered for higher speed running in the suburbs. The visible flag was to ensure it was only being used in such places. On the standard stock it was very noticeable when switched. On 62 stock, by comparison, it hardly made any difference and was eventually disconnected.
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Post by neilw on Nov 17, 2010 14:47:25 GMT
sounds to have some serious flats at front and back?!
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Post by neilw on Oct 30, 2010 16:07:40 GMT
have you noticed that as well as the Central line diagrams, the RAT still retains the passenger alarm pulls in the centre sections of the car? I am trying to get/make some for the restoration of my 62 DM.
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Post by neilw on Sept 18, 2010 9:44:43 GMT
thanks guys, I'll let you know how I get on........
It's a nice day today, so I'll revert to 12"/ft scale in the garden, cleaning to be done!
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Post by neilw on Sept 17, 2010 15:59:47 GMT
fantastic reply, many thanks-just one further clarification, what is the cross-section dimension of the concrete posts, ie width/depth?
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Post by neilw on Sept 15, 2010 11:00:01 GMT
I am continuing the restoration of my 62 TS DM, and hope to get the roof, solebar, and bogies sand blasted and repainted before the weather finally turns (so it may slip to spring!). I'm not sure what colour the wheels should be, however, and can't seem to find a colour picture of a new or overhauled wheelset. Can anyone enlighten me, please? They are the later solid disc forged type. many thanks
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Post by neilw on Sept 15, 2010 10:43:40 GMT
With the advent of darker nights comes the modelling season. To continue my Central Line model "Oaks Lane", I now have the daunting task of modelling the cable runs and associated clutter. Can anyone point me or advise me of the dimensions and spacing of the concrete posts used for runs on the open sections, plus any other useful info regarding the arrangement with hangers, how many, spacing etc. I know the air main runs along the top, anyone know the diameter? What are the typical cable diameters, and is there rule as to which cables go where vertically along a run? For modellers on here, I have considered the Radley models hangers, but they are just too clunky for a fine-scale model. I am toying with getting some post/hangers etc made up, will obviously share if they can be made successfully
many thanks for any advice
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Post by neilw on Aug 12, 2010 9:20:58 GMT
have you thought about joining the Scalefour society? All the info you need is there www.scalefour.org
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Post by neilw on Jul 21, 2010 14:26:14 GMT
twin rover covered buses and trains, but not for stations beyond Rickmansworth for some strange reason
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Post by neilw on Jul 14, 2010 9:46:20 GMT
Is a project ever finished? I've pm'd you
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Post by neilw on Jul 13, 2010 9:39:06 GMT
I have a 62 TS DM in my garden. I bought a 60ft panel of track from the Nottingham Sleeper Co, who are near Worksop rather than Nottingham. By chance it was a piece from the Hainault loop. I don't know where you are, but companies who specialise in recycling sleepers for gardens etc obviously get their raw material from track contractors. The foundations are about a foot of yellow roadstone tamped down with a whacker plate. I then laid the sleepers out on top of this, 24 for 60ft of track. The running rails were then manhandled into place, I cut them into 20ft lengths with a burning torch otherwise they were too heavy to move with a bunch of pals. There are two sets of fishplates at the two joints. With tracks in place the spring keys were installed with a sledge hammer. The space between and around the sleepers was filled with hardcore to just below the top of the sleepers, as proper granite ballast is expensive, I used this for the top layer so that it looks realistic. Regarding transport, have a word with David Allely, he did a terrific job for me. We backed the low-loader as far as possible into the garden, which was about the length of the whole ensemble. Using a sloping piece of temporary track between the low loader and my panel of track, we just rolled the car down using the winch, and hey-presto, job done. At 52 ft long, it sits nicely on a 60ft panel, I'm not sure of the length of an A60/2 but you could always overhang the ends. You will need to address planning permission, I had something of a to-and-fro with my local council, and I didn't want to live in it, only to restore and preserve it as a thing of beauty. If it were a garden shed, it would be a permitted development and not need PP. Railway carriages apparently don't enjoy this exemption. I even tried arguing that "lots of people have trains in their garden, it's just that this one is 12"/ft scale"-not even a smile! good luck
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Post by neilw on Apr 27, 2010 8:50:24 GMT
planning permission will be required, and I speak from experience!! I had a lot of to-ing and fro-ing with my local council, quite a humourless lot really. I had literally fields of land to put my DM in, but because it wasn't agricultural use, they wouldn't allow it. If it were a shed of equivalent size, it would be quite legal in the garden as a "permitted development". However, a train carriage doesn't count as being for "the beneficial use of the property", hence PP is required. By the way, transportation costs aren't too exorbitant if you speak to David Allely nicely (and he is polite enough not ask why you actually want a tube car in your garden.......)
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Post by neilw on Apr 1, 2010 15:43:15 GMT
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