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Post by harlesden on Sept 30, 2010 21:55:40 GMT
A 24 hour strike by RMT and TSSA union members is set to affect Tube services from early evening on Sunday 3 October and throughout Monday 4 October.
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Post by 21146 on Sept 30, 2010 22:28:36 GMT
A 24 hour strike by RMT and TSSA union members is set to affect Tube services from early evening on Sunday 3 October and throughout Monday 4 October. Hmm if they don't get an injunction first (according to the Evening Standard...) |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 1, 2010 2:32:58 GMT
Posters at Balham station yesterday (Thursday) evening were implying that it is unlikely the strike will not go ahead, and urging people to buy tickets in advance where possible.
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Post by Ben on Oct 1, 2010 7:35:28 GMT
There were two different posters about the strike due to go to all stations before the evening peak yesterday.
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Post by Chris M on Oct 1, 2010 11:48:51 GMT
I've just realised that the strike is due to start before the end of the weekend engineering closures. Will there be an implication for how much of the scheduled work can actually be completed?
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Post by 21146 on Oct 3, 2010 21:36:44 GMT
Posters at Balham station yesterday (Thursday) evening were implying that it is unlikely the strike will not go ahead, and urging people to buy tickets in advance where possible. What a nerve, asking people to pay in advance for a service that might not be available! The reality is they don't want people being able to travel for nothing on a strike day because the ticket office is closed and the POMs [self-service machines] are in closed/exact fare/or credit card only mode. |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 3, 2010 21:44:53 GMT
From memory the buy in advance was mainly aimed at people buying/renewing weekly/monthly tickets. I know that on NR there are partial refunds available to these ticket holders for things like strike action, does the same hold true on LU?
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Post by Tubeboy on Oct 3, 2010 21:57:37 GMT
LU doesn't give refunds due to industrial action.
21146, as a fellow LU employee, you know Broadway's thinking, it is run as a business, it isnt seen, nor has it been for a long time, been run as a public service. In my opinion, it should be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 22:45:40 GMT
i see Northern & Bakerloo seem to be only lines to be managing a Good Service.
oh and DLR forgot about them!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 22:53:36 GMT
i see Northern & Bakerloo seem to be only lines to be managing a Good Service. oh and DLR forgot about them! So they say. Do you believe that on the other days of the year? |
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Post by Tubeboy on Oct 3, 2010 23:16:17 GMT
A 15 minute gap on the Jubilee is considered a good service.  |
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Post by 21146 on Oct 3, 2010 23:32:46 GMT
LU doesn't give refunds due to industrial action. 21146, as a fellow LU employee, you know Broadway's thinking, it is run as a business, it isnt seen, nor has it been for a long time, been run as a public service. In my opinion, it should be. I think LU - or LRT/TFL - have given refunds to Season Ticket holders and maybe certain Travelcard holders due to strikes if it was obvious no reasonable alternative route/service was available on the day(s). I believe there is going to be some sort of global gate setting put on for Oyster Cards during the strike, though I forget exactly what for. For the record, I will be at work tomorrow as my department is not affected and my union has not balloted, if either of those two things were different it might be another matter; and I think it's unlikely they'll be a picket line outside my location. Mind you, my employer has issued no advice to me on how I might be supposed to get there, so when I actually arrive could be anyone's guess! The last time I was nights and we managed quite well without all the "great and good" poking their noses in and interfering; sadly I doubt that Monday on days it will be the same  |
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 3, 2010 23:39:34 GMT
A 15 minute gap on the Jubilee is considered a good service. I can think of a former Bakerloo controller who would be spinning in his grave if he were dead! That is a shocking indictment of how standards have changed. |
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Post by Tubeboy on Oct 3, 2010 23:49:48 GMT
I should have also added ......off peak!
15-18 minute gaps from 8pm onwards on the Jubilee are an everyday occurrence.
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Post by Tubeboy on Oct 3, 2010 23:52:51 GMT
10-13 minute gaps after the morning peak and during the day are not unheard of either! And to think its LU's "flagship line"! Its only an end-end line, no branches at all.
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Post by louvrerivoli on Oct 4, 2010 0:21:53 GMT
Looks like the H&C line is down, I hope that the District will do OK as it's my last resort!. It also appears that the last 3 stations on the northern end of the Vic line are closed, so it's highly likely that it'll be part suspended.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 10:08:33 GMT
i see Northern & Bakerloo seem to be only lines to be managing a Good Service. oh and DLR forgot about them! So they say. Do you believe that on the other days of the year? thats also very true! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 11:35:53 GMT
Even the infrastructure is now going on strike!
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Post by Tubeboy on Oct 4, 2010 12:12:30 GMT
TFL had to cancel weekend engineering work recently due to overtime bans etc. Cost them £15m. These job cuts will save them £16m, dont have to be a genius to do the maths.Tube is run on skeleton staff as it is.
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Post by harlesden on Oct 4, 2010 12:30:23 GMT
Forgive me for asking, but how can NOT doing something cost £15m.?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 12:42:40 GMT
Not sure but contractors still need paying? As do sub contractors?
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 4, 2010 12:43:34 GMT
Forgive me for asking, but how can NOT doing something cost £15m.? Monty Python had an album called 'Contractual Obligations'; I wonder if the same holds here? ;D |
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Post by Tomcakes on Oct 4, 2010 12:53:59 GMT
TFL had to cancel weekend engineering work recently due to overtime bans etc. Cost them £15m. These job cuts will save them £16m, dont have to be a genius to do the maths.Tube is run on skeleton staff as it is. Isn't it £16m per annum? You can't really compare like-for-like if so. I'm not sure that any of us can do the maths unless we have accurate figures. Any figures which are in the public domain have been put their either by TFL or by the unions, both of whom have an agenda and will publish only what they want to make known. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 15:28:21 GMT
Gotta love TfL - they are running 'special services' on most lines now... basically a newspeak for major delays.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 15:48:25 GMT
Gotta love TfL - they are running 'special services' on most lines now... basically a newspeak for major delays. Nonono... "Special service" means "one step up from nothing" ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 16:54:53 GMT
The metropolitan line was running excellently earlier today and I assume it still is now.
I had a job interview in Watford (which I was successful with, only working in McDonalds mind you!)
I left Chesham an hour earlier than I needed to and arrived at Watford met an hour earlier than I needed to. Stood outside talking to a couple of very nice station staff picketing for RMT for a while and still got to my interview early.
I was very surprised at the service level. Until Watford became suspended again an hour after I got off the train, there were trains leaving every 10-20 minutes. I had to cycle to Rickmansworth to get back to Chesham, but I was still not disappointed.
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Post by metman on Oct 4, 2010 17:40:28 GMT
I have to go to a funeral in Brussels tomorrow morning. What is the service on the Met likely to be like as I need to do the Northwood/Harrow - St Pancras journey?
Will most of the trains be in reasonable starting position?
What are peoples thoughts, Met Control?
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Post by plasmid on Oct 4, 2010 18:24:07 GMT
Central Line Train Operators were driving manually through the city today, make use of a rare occasion I guess.
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Post by SE13 on Oct 4, 2010 19:46:50 GMT
Strikes, and for those that don't know about them.....
I was in GMT on the buses, and the basic was that if the union called the strike, it meant the members agreed, which in turn you agreed. Go against the majority and you are "scab"
Firstly, if you strike, you are taking an unofficial day off work, but the union will (should - but it doesn't always happen) back you.
Secondly, a different union may have a different point of view, so a reduced service can run.
Thirdly, people do break the line "so to speak" because they still need to earn coins.
I'm lucky enough never to have been involved with strike action, bit I am aware of what's gone on before, including one person having a half bottle of rum implanted into his locker.... That's one thing that'll obviously get you sacked. (The person responsible was caught via CCTV)
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Post by harlesden on Oct 4, 2010 20:26:06 GMT
Waiting outside Wood Green bus garage, overheard Arriva bus crews discussing the strike and questioning the sanity of those who called it in this economic climate. The tube station opposite the garage has been closed all day with passengers still congregating outside the gates as though expecting them to magically open.
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