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Post by 21146 on Mar 11, 2009 19:02:49 GMT
A slightly-odd version of the WB DVA today heard *after* leaving Mansion House - "The next station is closed, customers for Blackfriars should remain on the train and get off at Temple...". You can hardly get off before then!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 8:48:59 GMT
On another note I do wish Drivers and PSA's would stop announcing 'this is a District/Circle Line train calling at all stations to ..........', especially after just announcing that Blackfriars Station is closed. Hello confussing info being given out, how can a train call at all stations when Blackfriars is closed!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 11:16:38 GMT
On another note I do wish Drivers and PSA's would stop announcing 'this is a District/Circle Line train calling at all stations to ..........', especially after just announcing that Blackfriars Station is closed. Hello confussing info being given out, how can a train call at all stations when Blackfriars is closed! Indeed ! I am always careful to omit the word "all" it's just "This is a District Line train calling at stations to Upminster" or "This is a District Line train to Upminster" ! (Though for the most part the DVA now does all the work !) |
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Post by 21146 on Mar 13, 2009 11:34:51 GMT
On another note I do wish Drivers and PSA's would stop announcing 'this is a District/Circle Line train calling at all stations to ..........', especially after just announcing that Blackfriars Station is closed. Hello confussing info being given out, how can a train call at all stations when Blackfriars is closed! Indeed ! I am always careful to omit the word "all" it's just "This is a District Line train calling at stations to Upminster" or "This is a District Line train to Upminster" ! (Though for the most part the DVA now does all the work !) Or how about the 'live' message sometimes made at Ealong Common (back in pre-DVA days) - "This is a District Line train calling at *all stations* to Ealing Broadway"? |
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Post by Ben on Mar 13, 2009 15:05:42 GMT
The PAs arent there to help people. Theyre to give the impression that TfL are trying to help people. It must be about image and 'scoring', otherwise announcements would be sparing, only have important info on them, and be correct and supportive; not to mention concise.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 25, 2009 18:34:35 GMT
And why on earth have the depots not covered the line diagrams in the cars with stickers yet? How confusing to the traveling public! At last, they are slowly getting around to doing this- 3-weeks late! tinyurl.com/csadbc D Stock tinyurl.com/dgm7tv C Stock |
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Post by maxtube on Mar 25, 2009 18:46:09 GMT
I remember being on the H & C years ago, with the old VERA DVA. It said: 'This is a Hammersmith and City Line train calling at all stations to Hammersmith.' Seconds later: 'Shepherd's Bush station is closed. This train will not stop at Shepherd's Bush.' Evidently things haven't changed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 14:23:52 GMT
Indeed they havent. At Tower Hill this morning the CSA announced. 'The next train on Platform 2 is a District Line train to Wimbledon'. Yeah right it was!
Again the incorrect infromation is being given out making LU/TFL looking rather silly.
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Post by carlovel1 on Mar 26, 2009 14:41:16 GMT
I remember being on the H & C years ago, with the old VERA DVA. It said: 'This is a Hammersmith and City Line train calling at all stations to Hammersmith.' Seconds later: 'Shepherd's Bush station is closed. This train will not stop at Shepherd's Bush.' Evidently things haven't changed. Sorry to ask but what is VERA DVA? Does the dva mean its like a digital voice announcer?   |
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Post by upfast on Mar 26, 2009 15:12:04 GMT
Indeed they havent. At Tower Hill this morning the CSA announced. 'The next train on Platform 2 is a District Line train to Wimbledon'. Yeah right it was! Again the incorrect infromation is being given out making LU/TFL looking rather silly. So what actually happened? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 15:33:07 GMT
Indeed they havent. At Tower Hill this morning the CSA announced. 'The next train on Platform 2 is a District Line train to Wimbledon'. Yeah right it was! Again the incorrect infromation is being given out making LU/TFL looking rather silly. So what actually happened? One thing is for sure we didn't stop at Blackfriars, thus we could not call at all stations to Wimbledon, or Ealing Broadway or Richmond as is commonly announced! |
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Post by maxtube on Mar 26, 2009 16:22:32 GMT
I remember being on the H & C years ago, with the old VERA DVA. It said: 'This is a Hammersmith and City Line train calling at all stations to Hammersmith.' Seconds later: 'Shepherd's Bush station is closed. This train will not stop at Shepherd's Bush.' Evidently things haven't changed. Sorry to ask but what is VERA DVA? Does the dva mean its like a digital voice announcer? Exactly what it stands for, DVA does mean digital voice announcer. There's a thread somewhere (albeit locked) that has information on the various names of announcer voice, VERA being one used on the 1972, 1967 and C Stocks until about 2003. |
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Post by carlovel1 on Mar 26, 2009 17:13:01 GMT
Sorry to ask but what is VERA DVA? Does the dva mean its like a digital voice announcer? Exactly what it stands for, DVA does mean digital voice announcer. There's a thread somewhere (albeit locked) that has information on the various names of announcer voice, VERA being one used on the 1972, 1967 and C Stocks until about 2003. Oh , thank you and happy 400th post ;D  |
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Post by maxtube on Mar 26, 2009 19:47:31 GMT
I'm assuming that was an early greeting, as that was my 399th post, but this is my 400th! YAY!
EDIT: Edited because I couldn't get the smileys from mysmiley.net to work, so I have replaced with default smileys:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 19:53:15 GMT
On the subject of incorrect info, I've just reported (for the second time in 4 months) that Holborn is giving out incorrect info!
It's just as well that some of us know what is going on, and can direct tourists where necessary, else the tube would be in chaos for the most part of the day!
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Post by carlovel1 on Mar 26, 2009 21:23:04 GMT
I'm assuming that was an early greeting, as that was my 399th post, but this is my 400th! YAY! EDIT: Edited because I couldn't get the smileys from mysmiley.net to work, so I have replaced with default smileys: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D It was an early congratulations message on purpose. and well done again!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2009 13:08:50 GMT
I'm assuming that was an early greeting, as that was my 399th post, but this is my 400th! YAY! EDIT: Edited because I couldn't get the smileys from mysmiley.net to work, so I have replaced with default smileys: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D It was an early congratulations message on purpose. and well done again! This is going a bit off topic. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2009 13:09:09 GMT
Indeed they havent. At Tower Hill this morning the CSA announced. 'The next train on Platform 2 is a District Line train to Wimbledon'. Yeah right it was! Again the incorrect infromation is being given out making LU/TFL looking rather silly. One thing is for sure we didn't stop at Blackfriars, thus we could not call at all stations to Wimbledon, or Ealing Broadway or Richmond as is commonly announced! At the risk of being pedantic if the CSA did indeed say what you said, quoted above top, then assuming the train was going to Wimbledon then they were correct. Your quote doesn't say they said it was calling at "all stations" merely stated the destination. Pretty unusual for the CSA's to announce anything about trains approaching the bay road. As an approaching train is rarely the next westbound departure. Must have been peak hours, off peak trains from the bay go to Ealing Broadway. Even during the peak a Wimbledon arriving in platform 2 will often leave after a Wimbledon subsequently arrives from the east. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2009 13:51:50 GMT
Indeed they havent. At Tower Hill this morning the CSA announced. 'The next train on Platform 2 is a District Line train to Wimbledon'. Yeah right it was! Again the incorrect infromation is being given out making LU/TFL looking rather silly. One thing is for sure we didn't stop at Blackfriars, thus we could not call at all stations to Wimbledon, or Ealing Broadway or Richmond as is commonly announced! At the risk of being pedantic if the CSA did indeed say what you said, quoted above top, then assuming the train was going to Wimbledon then they were correct. Your quote doesn't say they said it was calling at "all stations" merely stated the destination. Pretty unusual for the CSA's to announce anything about trains approaching the bay road. As an approaching train is rarely the next westbound departure. Must have been peak hours, off peak trains from the bay go to Ealing Broadway. Even during the peak a Wimbledon arriving in platform 2 will often leave after a Wimbledon subsequently arrives from the east. My apologies, the CSA did state calling at all station to Wimbledon. As for the announcement the train was allready in the bay road waiting to depart. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 19:56:13 GMT
Have they erected the protective shields in Blackfriars yet?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 20:11:17 GMT
Have they erected the protective shields in Blackfriars yet? Not yet, the foundations for what looks like some sort of supports have been put in the platforms though. |
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Post by ajamieson on Apr 3, 2009 10:12:55 GMT
Have they erected the protective shields in Blackfriars yet? No. Work is progressing as the usual pace we have come to expect from TfL's "investment programme". In the two weeks since closure the only thing they have managed to install is a string of light bulbs. Apart from piles of square metal objects left lying on the platform, there has been no visible progress whatsoever and trains are still restricted to dead slow through the station. I daresay a string of complete weekend line shutdowns and a high-vis cast of thousands will be required before the hoardings will be erected... On the other hand, the conflicting announcements have mostly ceased and peace and quiet has been restored...as far as Cannon Street, at least |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 3, 2009 12:19:52 GMT
Apart from piles of square metal objects left lying on the platform, there has been no visible progress whatsoever and trains are still restricted to dead slow through the station. I think you might notice that the former false ceilings have been removed from the platform areas letting more daylight in. Also the platform electrics (lighting, telephones, headwall equipment, OMO monitors) have been removed too. |
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Post by Colin on Apr 3, 2009 16:37:17 GMT
Indeed - you can't really see a lot from a passenger point of view, but from the cab us drivers can see that quite a lot of work has already been done.
Don't forget this is a two year closure and is essentially at Network Rails pace as they are the ones that are rebuilding the whole Blackfriars complex - also, something you can't see from the platforms is the booking hall - that too has got to be completely ripped out.
Rome wasn't built in a day and all that.....
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Post by ajamieson on Apr 3, 2009 17:21:32 GMT
Thankyou - will try and take another look through the gloom tonight... Rome wasn't built in a day Perhaps Metronet were responsible for that too ;D |
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Post by mrfs42 on Apr 3, 2009 22:00:21 GMT
What's the problem with trains being restricted to dead slow through there? The timetable hasn't been recast - as I think it was for Mornington Crescent.
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Post by setttt on Apr 3, 2009 23:56:15 GMT
Trains are not restricted to "dead slow" through there, just the usual 5mph at the station starter which is the norm when trains are non-stopping a platform, though the arrangements at Blackfriars will be changing soon.
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Post by Colin on Apr 6, 2009 21:25:15 GMT
Well the approach control on the station starters came in today - and IMO it actually slows us down even more, rather than speeding us up as I thought it would!
Also started this weekend was the installation of the tunnel shield, quite a sturdy structure too by the looks of it - I took a photo but it didn't come out too well at all so unfortunately there's no point putting it on here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 1:49:19 GMT
Well the approach control on the station starters came in today - and IMO it actually slows us down even more, rather than speeding us up as I thought it would! Also started this weekend was the installation of the tunnel shield, quite a sturdy structure too by the looks of it - I took a photo but it didn't come out too well at all so unfortunately there's no point putting it on here. I wondered why I was stopped at Blackfriars on my first EB trip, I thought I was blocking back. I took the oppertunity to open my cab and touch the shield, it is pretty sturdy, I assume mainly to protect the line from falling objects from above during the building works. |
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Post by Ben on Apr 7, 2009 13:57:10 GMT
Could the station starter have been temporarily changed to an auto?
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