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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2009 17:11:58 GMT
time to save up...
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 15, 2009 14:51:44 GMT
I'm off to the 'Toy Fair' (with my other hat on!) on 30 Jan so i will ask at Gilbows stand as to the progress.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 20:18:37 GMT
Drop a hint re. CO/CP stock...... Ta.
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Post by metman on Jan 15, 2009 23:21:06 GMT
Oh, whats all this about CO/CP stock?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 9:44:40 GMT
Purely wishful thinking on my part! A hint in the right direction could lead to thoughts on the matter. It's got to be worth a try! Stranger things have happened. Who would have thought ten years ago that anyone would have done an '00' scale tube train in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 15:21:53 GMT
There is a review of this unit in 'Model Rail' and it says ''Three packs are promised, the LT 'heritage' red set reviewed here, 'Dinosaur' livery and Network SouthEast colours'', but EFE haven't anounced the other sets yet. NSE colours you say? Nice ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 16, 2009 18:06:21 GMT
Drop a hint re. CO/CP stock...... Ta. On the last discussions with "Mr EFE" he said that UndergrounD stock had not gone as well as had been hoped, from an investment-return point. The expansion into other Stocks was treated as "doubtful, unless the market picks up significantly". An eye has been cast over a Stock (note small "a"!) other than the current '38 or '59 as a possible future development. Although "Mr EFE" was a trifle perplexed at the complexities in detail that this Stock throws up to get an 'acceptable' (to him!) final product. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 18:17:29 GMT
NSE or bus red '38 stock might restore his faith in the model buying public and besides, according to my local model shop, each batch of '38 stock had pretty much sold out. CO/CP would capture the imagination though. I personally believe that they wouldn't be able to make enough of them!
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 17, 2009 23:04:23 GMT
NSE or bus red '38 stock might restore his faith in the model buying public and besides, according to my local model shop, each batch of '38 stock had pretty much sold. The 59/62TS also seem to have sold well. I think EFE should do the 59TS in 'heritage' (1920s) livery. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 30, 2009 19:46:24 GMT
NSE or bus red '38 stock might restore his faith in the model buying public . . . Well it seems your wish might come true! I had a chat with "Mr EFE" at the Toy Fair today and he said that the Island Line '38 TS had 'sold out' as far as he was concerned, ie. wholesalers and independents had taken his stock. The fact that a 2-car set is by default cheaper than a 3- or 4-car has helped sales. Next on the agenda is indeed an NSE liveried unit, two different up-sweeps of the stripes were mentioned as possible. After that a bus red, white roundel unit (possibly 3- & 4-car). Any further developments, new models etc., have been put 'on hold'. (In 2010 the Toy Fair will revert back to Olympia, EFE will not be attending any more. Hornby and Corgi were conspicuous by their absence today.) |
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 30, 2009 21:38:06 GMT
Next on the agenda is indeed an NSE liveried unit, two different up-sweeps of the stripes were mentioned as possible. After that a bus red, white roundel unit (possibly 3- & 4-car). I hope EFE do the later version of the NSE livery, as the original didn't last that long. The original livery had more yellow on the end. There is a photo of that livery on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isle_of_Wight_483_001.jpgWhat does 'possibly 3- & 4-car' mean? I don't see why EFE would do it as a 3-car, as all other London sets have been 4-car. Unless they sell it in a way you can buy it as a 3-car of a 4-car (sell it as a 3-car set with the NDM seperate)? |
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Post by maxtube on Jan 31, 2009 9:08:20 GMT
It might be 3-car for a 3-car unit in the same livery with different numbering to the 4-car, so you can make the complete 7-car set!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2009 15:46:55 GMT
NSE livery should do well as all of them ran at least one trip on the mainland before shipment to the Island. Bus red should be a real winner! Any news on Dinosaur livery?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 31, 2009 18:00:54 GMT
What does 'possibly 3- & 4-car' mean? I don't see why EFE would do it as a 3-car, as all other London sets have been 4-car. Unless they sell it in a way you can buy it as a 3-car of a 4-car (sell it as a 3-car set with the NDM separate)? Sorry, i should have clarified. Because it has been seen that 2-car units sell very well but alas 4-car sets are slower selling, it is being considered to sell 3-car AND 4-car sets. There would not be a separate car, i.e NDM. Unfortunately, both sets would be of the same numbered unit! the NDM simply removed in the 3-car set. EFE are still to get to grips with this concept!! |
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Post by metman on Jan 31, 2009 18:08:20 GMT
Modelmaster do great transfers for the 38ts both gold and white EHO along with 59 and 62ts. The EFE models should not have numbers on! Serious modellers should be able to put their own on.
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 31, 2009 21:42:58 GMT
I don't see why EFE couldn't put different numbers on the 3-car set. EFE sometimes change models after they are made. The ELL 38TS models were made as Piccadilly line ones, you can see where they changed the numbers, covered the door open buttons, and the cream between the windows (they left Piccadilly maps in it though). If it would be too expensive to make some with different numbers, couldn't they change some afterwards? I think though that EFE think people will buy a 3-car instead of a 4 as it wouldn't cost as much, and not buy both to make a 7-car, but as anyone who has already bought 4-car sets would want the 4-car version, it wouldn't suprise me if the 4-car ones end up selling better!
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Post by mowat on Feb 15, 2009 19:22:51 GMT
I think that if EFE did the various types of LT surface stocks built between 1937/59 they could cover four stocks (O,P,Q & R) and all Lines.
1) O Stock Hammersmith & City 1938 (2 car set)
2) P Stock Met Main 1950's (3 car set)
3) O/P Stock Circle 1960's
4) CO/CP Stock District 1970's (bus red)
5) Q38 Stock East London (4 car set)
6) R Stock
A major reason why the tube stocks did not sell as well as expected was that they were not motorized. My local model shop had large amounts of the bakerloo release hanging around for years, all prospective buyers put off because of this.
EFE said before release that the model would be easy to motorize but in fact they are not (large parts of the floor need removing) so if a surface stock was done it could be designed (being higher) so a motor can be easily fitted.
I think this would encourage sales significantly.
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