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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 20:06:01 GMT
Just to let you know the first 378 mover from Derby to Shoeburyness of all places on 24th, hauled by a GBRF 66, it should have moved on 22nd but was cancelled due to "paperwork" issues then it should have run on 23rd but didnt due to a track possesion near Litchurch Lane. My mate got a photo of it at Kensington Olympia. Cheers Chris W Why has it gone to Shoeburyness? Its gone to Shoeburyness for Commissioning Testing, I guess after that it will go to WN |
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Post by metman on Sept 29, 2008 20:58:47 GMT
oh I don't know-the 67ts is ok!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 21:23:03 GMT
I like it as well - I found the 1978 orange-brown moquette *much* more exciting and attractive than the blue-green moquette fitted to DMS, LS, 1972MkII and 1973 stock (or the red-grey used before that). A nice bit of retro-design I reckon - looks like orange is the new black! ;D
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Post by vitesse on Oct 5, 2008 0:36:56 GMT
Why has it gone to Shoeburyness? Its gone to Shoeburyness for Commissioning Testing, I guess after that it will go to WN From what I heard its going to be tested at night on c2c's routes for a while, before making its way over to us, also since its effectively an electrostar series train ( I may be wrong about the next bit) as our 313's use Tightlock auto couplers where c2c's 357's and our 378's use Dellner autocouplers so if the unit were to fail it can easily be assisted by a 357 with a compatible coupler otherwise if on a LO route we currently have nothing to provide assistance with. |
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 17, 2009 22:16:08 GMT
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Post by dazz285 on Jan 18, 2009 15:18:42 GMT
Don't hold your breath..
378002 still at derby as 378001 is causing alsorts of problems...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 17:51:26 GMT
Why are these units having so many problems? It's not as if they're a radical, new and untried type of train are they? They're electrostars - which are in use all over the place without all these problems.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 19:57:31 GMT
313's will always be the best though, they look like taken alot of a beating but still work fine
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Post by metman on Jan 18, 2009 23:02:58 GMT
Not everyone on here would agree with you, but I like them to, and I'll miss them.
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Post by Chris M on Jan 18, 2009 23:51:28 GMT
313's will always be the best though, they look like taken alot of a beating but still work fine Once the 378s have their teething troubles ironed out [1] it is quite possible that they will taken even more of a beating over their years of service that the 313s have and that they'll work better than the 313s do now even then. [1] although ironing teeth sounds very painful |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2009 19:07:16 GMT
313's will always be the best though, they look like taken alot of a beating but still work fine Shame so many of their wheels have "flats" on them, though, and these units have a really jerky and bumpy start when they move off. |
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Post by metman on Jan 19, 2009 19:58:08 GMT
Yeah I've noticed that. I thought it was just the tug of the camshaft equipment?
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Post by dazz285 on Jan 21, 2009 5:02:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 22:02:34 GMT
When arethe new trains due to run ,
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Post by superteacher on Jan 21, 2009 22:34:02 GMT
When arethe new trains due to run , Initially at the end of last year, now they are talking about March. But don't hold your breath, if the problems mentioned earlier are anything to go by. |
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 21, 2009 22:45:08 GMT
Don't hold your breath.. 378002 still at derby as 378001 is causing alsorts of problems... What is happening with the production 378s at the moment, as 378003 should be the first to enter service? |
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Post by dazz285 on Jan 22, 2009 17:34:08 GMT
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Post by dazz285 on Jan 26, 2009 14:14:55 GMT
Scrub the testing ... Nothing doing for atleat 2 weeks except a few runs to Euston in the middle of the night.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 22:51:18 GMT
Apparently, Bombardier are having problems with suppliers, as they have fallen victim to the economic crux. There is a backlog of cars awaiting fitment of various components. Not sure how long this'll go on for, but it might affect the introduction of the units, [and those for FCC].
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 29, 2009 17:43:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2009 19:52:43 GMT
Hmmmm ... I'm starting to wonder if these new London Overground trains will ever see the light of day. Got a funny feeling we may be stuck with the 313s for quite a while yet. Now they'd look a bit strange running on the former East London Line ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2009 20:04:26 GMT
I like being stuck with 313's!
so will the 508's really be going in march? sounds like they might need them a bit longer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2009 20:06:47 GMT
Wasn't there once a proposal to use displaced Juniper units from SWT on the NLL and East London Line extension? I think they'd have been a better idea, tbh.
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Post by DrOne on Jan 29, 2009 21:23:33 GMT
The Junipers are great units, well suited to the Reading outer suburban stoppers but I don't really see them running on metro-type routes like the NLL or ELL. Although they are pretty tired, if the 313s were refurbished up to the standard of the SWT 455s they would have done the job perfectly IMO.
If the 378s are delayed, might this impact on FCC's desire for more 313s on the GN&City?
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 29, 2009 22:53:29 GMT
I think the 313s are ok, they just aren't in good condition (or at least they weren't the last time I was on one) - the seats were falling apart, and I don't think they look that good at the moment, as they are still in Silverlink livery, and haven't been repainted for a while. if the 313s were refurbished up to the standard of the SWT 455s they would have done the job perfectly IMO. I agree, the SWT 455s are much better than they were. You could do it to a 313, but I hate the DVA on those 455s, it doesn't pause between each station name - "calling at VauxhallClapham JunctionEarlsfieldWimbledon..."! If the 378s are delayed, might this impact on FCC's desire for more 313s on the GN&City? But were FCC going to get the first 313s taken out of service by LO? As there are only 24 of this batch of 378s, and there are 25 class 313/508s in use, it is likely that the last 313s will go when the pre-production 378s are converted to standard. FCC were going to refurbish the LO 313s before they put them in service, so if there is a delay, they could put them in service quickly and refurbish them later, one at a time. |
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Post by dazz285 on Jan 30, 2009 11:04:55 GMT
If things get any later then the ELL might get the 378's first ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2009 18:18:20 GMT
I always thought they should have refurbed them completley
couldnt they completley rebuild them? or are they just to tired for repair
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Post by jswallow on Jan 31, 2009 7:34:56 GMT
313s are the oldest of the second-generation EMUs running on the network now, and so rank as some of the oldest passenger stock on the network. They are past their best and need to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 1:23:12 GMT
313s are the oldest of the second-generation EMUs running on the network now, and so rank as some of the oldest passenger stock on the network. They are past their best and need to go. The A Stock have several years on the 313s and are not in bad shape for their age. As long as TfL and LO commit to maintaining the 313s appropriately I see no reason why they can't stretch their remaining lifetime out until the 378s are in service. |
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Post by jswallow on Feb 1, 2009 10:10:46 GMT
And I don't disagree with you. I was taking the comment
as meaning the 313 should soldier on ever, as heaven forbid that we should consider ever replacing a piece of equipment and replacing it with something better.
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