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If there is little or no public transport in isolated rural areas and people are encouraged to move closer to towns, that will only hasten the depopulation of the countryside. With fewer residents, this lestens the demand for public transport, which is then reduced thus forcing the remaining residents into cars.
Moving people towards towns then results in houses being turned into rural holiday homes to which people will travel in their cars - cars that they will also use for transport while they are on vacation in the newly created holiday homes.
Touche!

Country needs more janitors .

But still, at the moment the PM has said he wants the road pricing in but has said nothing about removing road tax or dropping fuel tax.

If you can get where you want by train or bus or by walking great. But the bootle of drink and sandwich you buy on the way will have doubled once the new road pricing is in.

Theres alot of things people can't do without cars. I should know we had to stop running ours about two years ago.

Shopping. Now it's cheaper to go buy a good amount of food at a big supermarket and trust me lugging it on the bus is an awful experience i can assure you.

Then you end up getting bits from your local shop which is a heck of alot more expensive. Which will rise under the road pricing or they will go bust!

Need to get somewhere in the dead of night. Err wheres the bus or train???
Or should i walk and have the chance of being mugged or rundown?

Need to get somewhere that no bus runs too. I can think of aload of places round here!
Going to the beach, need to lug alot of your gear around e.t.c
Or if you live in the countryside. I use to live in a village outside of London. About 5 miles from Upminster.

Now they had 2 trains an hour and a bus service that had no buses. So if i didn't have a car out there what do i do??

Walk down one of the most dangerous road outside of London a.k.a St marys lane???

All of this is personal car use.

But imagine when all these supermarket lorries call out centres and other things that need to be delivered. Well toilet roll £1. Could rise to £1.50. But imagine about these stores in london. Do you think they would ever get a delivery?

Also we will be spyed on where we go!

All i can say is Road pricing should be thrown out now. We don't want it so there!
But the PM doesn't think of this neither do any MP's mainly because they get all their travel paid for them!!

Say no thats all i can say. Or think about voting NO to Labour at the next election!!

James

To sum up.

Road pricing is invasion of privacy.
Road pricing will put up prices everywhere.
Road pricing cannot be a form of getting people off the road.
Road pricing is a win win situation for the goverment.
Road pricing will put up the cost of motoring.

So wheres the money going. Hmm well alot of our fuel and road tax goes to the EU. Well i would vote YES to getting out of the EU.

EU = Stupid laws, millions going down the drain and nothing else.
Oh sorry a tonne of immagrants some dangerous coming into the country!

So theres nothing great about road pricing is just another form of tax but a huge one at that.

If you think for one second that you would be fine to be tracked where you drive and have to drive and paying a huge amount in doing so. Then i say you are an idiot!

Also i bet alot of people who think it's a good idea but have cars now. Boy are you going to be kicking yourself when your at a bus stop waiting to get on a crammed bus with loads of shopping, or anything of a big size.

But wait::

So the goverment is going to spend millions on another form of taxing when the money could go to the now Sh**e NHS due to Labour, education if you have children or Policing.

Nope tax all the way:

New Labour should be called Labour.

Not a labour of Love but a labour of hate!

Edit: Thought i would correct a few things and add a few points.

But still why would anyone want to be charged more?

Sooner or later the whole country is going to get hold of something being hidden very well by 'interested parties': in inner cities the amount of toxic fumes being breathed in near vehicles (especially stationary ones in a jam) by kids (who are nearer the ground) are so high that if it were a factory it would be closed down by H&S.

There is now a PROVED link in terms of mental development, lung disease, asthma, stunted growth and a whole lot more for those who live or go to school on or near busy roads. BBC made a big fuss of it one lunchtime a couple of months ago, but it was gone by the SixOClock News........

For that reason alone traffic has to be reduced for the sake of the kids - and if folks will not leave cars at home just because they are asked nicely, what IS a government to do to reduce the problem?
If road pricing is not the answer, WHAT IS??

One more thing to add. Road price in the city if they wish where it needs it!

Very good point Rob, but still a new tax is not the answer! Peoples view at the moment is: Why should i pay and not have anything in return??

But Yes we do need an alternative but the car must stay!

People will upgrade their cars one day. So why doesn't the goverment invest also in cleaner engines for cars??

Road pricing is not an option. Public transport for cities yes. No go areas for cars in london will surely allow more people to be brought on to the Tube.

But to be charged to go down a quiet country lane???

The goverment should be looking at what cause the congestion in areas and work out ways to stop it.

Stopping cars but not lorries for deliveries into certain areas is an option.

Tax is tax and never stops a problem.

James, at the moment you are being quite speculative. The costs of the charge and where and when it will be enforced and who will be exempt is yet to be decided.

It might be restricted to cities and busy motorways in the peak or only valid between certain hours like the congestion charge. We don't know yet

Oh james you poor mis-led fool!

New Labour is more RIGHT WING than the current Conservative party, and always has been!

That's why a lot of folks are scared of Gordon Brown taking over. He's going ot pull the party back, and there's no General Election for some years now. Lack of Democracy - we get a leader who's not been elected and have to put up with it.

But who decides? That option is open to all sorts of abuse (bribes etc.) and totally unworkable. How many permits? Should ALL residents get them (and if not....heaven help us)? And then ALL those who work in the City? Or just Police....and firemen.....and ambulance drivers......and teachers.....and LU staff.........and bankers.....

Where does it stop?

Sorry James - important word was misled, not fool!!

That's the problem of writing not speaking. If only you could have heard my tone of voice.

No offence intended, truly, just a figure of speech.

Thats ok Phil. Was just annoyed i didn't put my point across correctly. TOny blair should be working for the Tories the way he is!

Keyworker in my opinion are: Council workers at work, nurses,doctors,mps it could go on but people who do key jobs.

That's the problem. That is what *you* define as a "key worker". Other people will have different ideas. Result? Squabbles left, right and centre.