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Post by greatplum on Dec 10, 2006 14:56:15 GMT
From what I hear, all the 442's are being refurbed -even though they only have one month of service left... (hopefully they will have more!)
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Post by antharro on Dec 10, 2006 23:23:54 GMT
I had a chat this evening with a member of station staff at Waterloo. He called up to the control room who told him that 2401 was at the wheel lathe today and will probably be at Clapham overnight. It will form one of the 5:xx Weymouth services in the morning. Anyone who's out at a stupidly early time of the morning with a camera........   It really does seem very pointless to have them refurbed (I'm presuming it's just a livery change and a general tidy-up instead of a mechanical overhaul and possibly changing the traction equipment as mentioned earlier in this thead) only to stop using them a month or two later. I don't remember exactly who it was, but someone at the forum meeting told me that the 442s would start to be withdrawn on-masse at the end of December / start of January. I'm choosing to read that not as a mass-withdrawal, but that the timetables will become considerably more weighted towards 444s instead of 442s. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 14:04:00 GMT
The plan is that 444s are trialled on all Poole's to see what happens I believe.
I've got a rather nice photo from Sunday at Clapham Junction with a 10 car 442 on the right, and a 5 car on the left (incidentally, 2401 going to the washer).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 14:05:34 GMT
And surprise surprise........ look what's out and about today!
CLAPHAM YARD 06+48 5W13 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 06+58 07.36 1W13 BM216
WEYMOUTH 10.42 11.00 1W40 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 13.49 14.35 1W43 BM216
WEYMOUTH 17.19 18.00 1W68 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 20.49 21.35 1W71 BM216
WEYMOUTH 00.24 BM216
2403
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+00 5B08 BM202
BRANKSOME 05+04 05+13 5B08 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 06+01 06+10 5B08 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON DOWN LOOP 06+12 07+04 5B96 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 07+06 07.30 2B09 BM202
POOLE 08.33 08+35 5B09 BM202
POOLE S. S. 08+37 08+48 5B30 BM202
POOLE 08+50 08.54 1B30 BM202
LONDON WATERLOO 11.20 12.05 1B33 BM202
POOLE 14.19 14+21 5B33 BM202
POOLE S. S. 14+23 14+52 5B54 BM202
POOLE 14+54 15.01 1B54 BM202
LONDON WATERLOO 17.20 18.05 1B57 BM202
POOLE 20.17 20+26 5B62
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+35
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BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 06+30 5B22 BM211
BRANKSOME 06+34 06+43 5B22 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 06+48 07.04 1B22 BM211
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 07.50 08.00 1B22 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 09.23 10.05 1B25 BM211
POOLE 12.19 12+21 5B25 BM211
POOLE S. S. 12+23 12+55 5B46 BM211
POOLE 12+57 13.01 1B46 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 15.20 16.05 1B49 BM211
POOLE 18.23 18+25 5B49 BM211
POOLE S. S. 18+27 18+48 5B70 BM211
POOLE 18+50 18.54 1B70 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 21.22 22.05 1B73 BM211
POOLE 00.32 00+38 5B74 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+48 BM211
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WEYMOUTH 06.24 1W92 BM21
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 07.55 08.00 1B22 BM21
LONDON WATERLOO 09.23 10.05 1B25 BM21
POOLE 12.19 12+21 5B25 BM21
POOLE S. S. 12+23 13+48 5B50 BM21
POOLE 13+50 14.01 1B50 BM21
LONDON WATERLOO 16.20 17.05 1W53 BM21
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 18.17 18.22 1W53 BM21
WEYMOUTH 19.49 20+22 5W54 BM21
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+10 BM21
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BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+30 5B18 BM207
BRANKSOME 05+34 05+43 5B18 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 05+47 06.04 1B18 BM207
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 06.50 07.00 1B18 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 08.14 08.35 1W19 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 10.20 10+36 5W19 BM207
BRANKSOME 10+41 10+47 5W19 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 10+51 BM207
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BOURNEMOUTH 00+03 5B73 BM210
BRANKSOME 00+08 00+17 5B73 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+21 05+40 5B19 BM208
POOLE 05+51 06.11 1B20 BM208
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 06.55 07.00 1B18 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 08.14 08.35 1W19 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 10.20 10.25 1W19 BM208
WEYMOUTH 11.19 12.00 1W44 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 12.54 12.59 1W44 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 14.49 15.05 1B45 BM208
POOLE 17.21 17+23 5B45 BM208
POOLE S. S. 17+25 17+50 5B66 BM208
POOLE 17+52 17.54 1B66 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 20.20 21.05 1B69 BM208
POOLE 23.32 23+41 5B70 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 23+50 BM208
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CLAPHAM YARD 01+00 5W07 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 01+09 06.30 1W11 BM221
WEYMOUTH 09.43 10.00 1W36 BM221
LONDON WATERLOO 12.49 13.35 1W39 BM221
WEYMOUTH 16.19 17.00 1W64 BM221
LONDON WATERLOO 19.51 20.35 1W67 BM221
WEYMOUTH 23.21 BM221
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BOURNEMOUTH 00.38 1W75 BM214
WEYMOUTH 01.34 05.54 1W90 BM217
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 07.25 07.30 1B94 BM217
LONDON WATERLOO 08.46 09.05 1B21 BM217
POOLE 11.19 11+21 5B21 BM217
POOLE S. S. 11+23 12+05 5B22 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 12+18 BM217
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BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B89 BM204
POOLE 05+29 05.45 1B90 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 07.44 08.05 1B17 BM204
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09.22 09.26 1B17 BM204
POOLE 10.20 10+26 5B17 BM204
POOLE S. S. 10+28 10+48 5B38 BM204
POOLE 10+50 11.01 1B38 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 13.20 14.05 1B41 BM204
POOLE 16.19 16+21 5B41 BM204
POOLE S. S. 16+23 16+55 5B62 BM204
POOLE 16+57 17.01 1B62 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 19.20 19.35 1W63 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 21.20 21.25 1W63 BM204
WEYMOUTH 22.21 BM204
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BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 04+45 5B15 BM201
POOLE S. S. 04+57 05+20 5B16 BM201
POOLE 05+22 05.26 2B16 BM201
BROCKENHURST 06.07 06.16 2B03 BM201
POOLE 06.56 06+58 5B03 BM201
POOLE S. S. 07+00 07+16 5B28 BM201
POOLE 07+18 07.20 2B28 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 10.34 11.05 1B29 BM201
POOLE 13.19 13+21 5B29 BM201
POOLE S. S. 13+23 13+48 5B50 BM201
POOLE 13+50 14.01 1B50 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 16.20 17.05 1W53 BM201
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 18.17 18.25 2B53 BM201
POOLE 19.26 19+28 5B53 BM201
POOLE S. S. 19+30 19+48 5B74 BM201
POOLE 19+50 19.54 1B74 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 22.22 23.05 1B97 BM201
POOLE 01.30 01+39 5B98 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+48 BM201
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BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B89 BM205
POOLE 05+29 05.45 1B90 BM205
LONDON WATERLOO 07.44 08.05 1B17 BM205
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09.22 09+30 5B17 BM205
SOUTHAMPTON UP GOODS LOOP 09+32 09+51 5B32 BM205
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 09+53 09.55 2B32 BM205
LONDON WATERLOO 11.34 12.05 1B33 BM205
POOLE 14.19 14+21 5B33 BM205
POOLE S. S. 14+23 14+52 5B54 BM205
POOLE 14+54 15.01 1B54 BM205
LONDON WATERLOO 17.20 18.05 1B57 BM205
POOLE 20.17 20+26 5B62 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+35 BM205
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BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+00 5B08 BM203
BRANKSOME 05+04 05+13 5B08 BM203
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 06+01 06+10 5B08 BM203
SOUTHAMPTON DOWN LOOP 06+12 07+04 5B96 BM203
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 07+06 07.15 2B96 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 09.09 09.35 1W23 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 11.20 11.25 1W23 BM203
WEYMOUTH 12.19 13.00 1W48 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 13.54 13.59 1W48 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 15.49 16.35 1W51 BM203
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 17.48 17.54 1W51 BM203
WEYMOUTH 19.19 20.08 1W78 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 21.07 21.11 1W78 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 23.23 00.05 1B81 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 02.17 02+19 5B81 BM203
BRANKSOME 02+24 02+33 5B81 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+37 BM203
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BOURNEMOUTH 00+03 5B73 BM207
BRANKSOME 00+08 00+17 5B73 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+21 05+50 5W01 BM209
BRANKSOME 05+54 06+00 5W01 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 06+04 06.15 2W01 BM209
WEYMOUTH 07.16 07.25 2W26 BM209
BROCKENHURST 08.54 09+01 5B11 BM209
POOLE S. S. 09+32 09+57 5B34 BM209
POOLE 09+59 10.01 1B34 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 12.21 13.05 1B37 BM209
POOLE 15.19 15+21 5B37 BM209
POOLE S. S. 15+23 15+48 5B58 BM209
POOLE 15+50 16.01 1B58 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 18.22 18.39 1B59 BM209
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 20.14 20+19 5B59 BM209
SOUTHAMPTON DOWN LOOP 20+21 20+27 5B76 BM209
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 20+29 20.55 2B76 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 22.43 23+05 5Y47 BM209
CLAPHAM YARD 23+25 BM209
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BOURNEMOUTH 00+40 5W75 UNKNWN
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+55 05+30 5B18 BM206
BRANKSOME 05+34 05+43 5B18 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH 05+47 05+56 5B93 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 05+58 06+27 5B94 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH 06+29 06.34 1B94 BM206
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 07.20 07.30 1B94 BM206
LONDON WATERLOO 08.46 09.05 1B21 BM206
POOLE 11.19 11+21 5B21 BM206
POOLE S. S. 11+23 11+50 5B42 BM206
POOLE 11+52 12.01 1B42 BM206
LONDON WATERLOO 14.20 16.05 1B49 BM206
POOLE 18.23 18+25 5B49 BM206
POOLE S. S. 18+27 18+48 5B70 BM206
POOLE 18+50 18.54 1B70 BM206
LONDON WATERLOO 21.22 22.39 2B75 BM206
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 00.14 00+16 5B75 BM206
BRANKSOME 00+53 01+05 5B75 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+09 BM206
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WEYMOUTH 06.54 1W24 BM219
BOURNEMOUTH 07.54 07.59 1W24 BM219
LONDON WATERLOO 09.51 10.35 1W27 BM219
BOURNEMOUTH 12.20 12.25 1W27 BM219
WEYMOUTH 13.19 14.00 1W52 BM219
BOURNEMOUTH 14.54 14.59 1W52 BM219
LONDON WATERLOO 16.49 17.35 1W55 BM219
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 18.47 18.52 1W55 BM219
WEYMOUTH 20.19 21.10 2W80 BM219
BOURNEMOUTH 22.07 22.11 2W80 BM219
LONDON WATERLOO 01.01 BM219
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CLAPHAM YARD 01+00 5W07 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 01+09 05.30 1W07 BM220
WEYMOUTH 08.47 09.00 1W32 BM220
LONDON WATERLOO 11.49 12.35 1W35 BM220
WEYMOUTH 15.19 16.00 1W60 BM220
BOURNEMOUTH 16.54 16.59 1W60 BM220
LONDON WATERLOO 18.47 19.05 1B61 BM220
POOLE 21.23 21+25 5B61 BM220
POOLE S. S. 21+27 21+36 5B64 BM220
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+48 BM220
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Post by Oracle on Dec 11, 2006 14:14:18 GMT
Did they do the ladder to/from Queenstown Road Battersea yesterday?
My concern is that the 442s have a nice "crush" capacity, in the vestibules for standees.
Talking of "crush" I wonder what on Earth is going to happen ex-Southampton late afternoon/early evening with the new timetabled Test Valley services through Southampton from Pompey. Barry Doe says that there will be just 2-car units instead of 3-car units...well that's going to be Fun with the reduced services and reduced carriages. I will have to see if I can get down to Central this week to see how sardines are placed in cans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 14:21:16 GMT
Yes - I did the ladder yesterday in both directions.
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Post by antharro on Dec 11, 2006 17:45:28 GMT
The plan is that 444s are trialled on all Poole's to see what happens I believe. So to be clear, Weymouths and Bournemouths will remain 442 for the time being? I've got a rather nice photo from Sunday at Clapham Junction with a 10 car 442 on the right, and a 5 car on the left (incidentally, 2401 going to the washer). Any chance you could post it please? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 18:30:23 GMT
Until Christmas, I reckon all xx35s from London will stay 442 except those already converted. Photo  Click for larger size. |
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Post by antharro on Dec 12, 2006 15:58:33 GMT
Until Christmas, I reckon all xx35s from London will stay 442 except those already converted. Hmm, can I read that as working both ways? ie, the fasts (59) from Bournemouth will also be 442? I'm hoping that this arrangement will stay in place to the new year. I've got friends coming down from Yorkshire who would like a look at the 442s, so it'd be nice to be able to plan around the 35 being one! |
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Post by Oracle on Dec 12, 2006 16:37:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2006 17:55:46 GMT
Yep, correct Oracle.
If you have a look at the diagrams I have mentioned - they'll be roughly running to those as 442s over the new year.
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Post by scorpio on Dec 12, 2006 20:33:07 GMT
It looks like "End of the Line" on SWT metals for the 442's is now on the horizon.
The following is a much shortened version of what I saw on our intranet.
From Monday 11th December
The number of 458's increases from 6 to 16 units covering most of the Reading's and one AM peak service from Aldershot to Waterloo via Ascot also becoming 458.
From Monday 8th January
The number of 458's increases to 22 units which I would think will be all the Reading's and it also includes the services between Aldershot & Waterloo via Ascot in the am peak and VV services in the pm peak.
The 450's from the Reading line will go on to the Portsmouth line.
From the weekend of 14th January
The 444's from the Portsmouth line will move to the Bournemouth & Weymouth line replacing the 442's which will be withdrawn from passenger service over this weekend , 13th & 14th Jan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2006 20:54:01 GMT
It looks like "End of the Line" on SWT metals for the 442's is now on the horizon. The following is a much shortened version of what I saw on our intranet. From Monday 11th DecemberThe number of 458's increases from 6 to 16 units covering most of the Reading's and one AM peak service from Aldershot to Waterloo via Ascot also becoming 458. From Monday 8th JanuaryThe number of 458's increases to 22 units which I would think will be all the Reading's and it also includes the services between Aldershot & Waterloo via Ascot in the am peak and VV services in the pm peak. The 450's from the Reading line will go on to the Portsmouth line. From the weekend of 14th JanuaryThe 444's from the Portsmouth line will move to the Bournemouth & Weymouth line replacing the 442's which will be withdrawn from passenger service over this weekend , 13th & 14th Jan. That is very very grim reading. I absolutely love the 442's and think they are so much better than the other trains above. I still can't get my head round a 450 journey to Pompey. Those seats! They're ok for outer surburban stuff but a Pompey is a relatvely long run - about 75 miles in total. Not good   |
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Post by antharro on Dec 13, 2006 2:18:24 GMT
Scorpio - Thanks for the info. As Alex said, this is very very grim reading. After having experienced a 444 from Waterloo to Winchester, I'd hate to have to do the whole journey. It's not _bad_, it's just not as comfortable as on a 442.
I finally twigged what it is that I like about the 442s, but I'll post that in my other thread.
Time for a letter off to SWT, I think, even tho it'll probably not do any good at all...
Edit: tubechallenger - the info you're providing is gonna be really useful in the final week of 442 running. Is there any chance you can get that information in advance?
Additionally, does anyone know where the 442s will be stored, and is there anywhere that someone with a camera could get to from a public location?
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Post by Oracle on Dec 13, 2006 6:11:02 GMT
The Portsmouth line is supposed to have 450s I gathered, except that now it seems that a handful of fasts, perhaps the am amd pm peak "fasts" that go via Cobham as present, will be 444. Perhaps TC can elaborate? The 450s are fine except that I would not have wanted to do a Brockenhurst-Waterloo trip which is what they were doing with the line closure a few months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2006 9:09:09 GMT
Scorpio - Thanks for the info. As Alex said, this is very very grim reading. After having experienced a 444 from Waterloo to Winchester, I'd hate to have to do the whole journey. It's not _bad_, it's just not as comfortable as on a 442. I finally twigged what it is that I like about the 442s, but I'll post that in my other thread. Time for a letter off to SWT, I think, even tho it'll probably not do any good at all... Edit: tubechallenger - the info you're providing is gonna be really useful in the final week of 442 running. Is there any chance you can get that information in advance? The workings shown in the listings already up are what will slowly disappear..... Bournemouth or MOD Shoeburyness/Pigs Bay |
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Post by antharro on Dec 14, 2006 3:00:27 GMT
Here's what I've been told recently...
- From a member of station staff: one big the reason the 442s are being withdrawn is that management consider them to be too expensive to run when compared with the newer trains.
- From another source (thanks - you know who you are): They're being overhauled because the terms of the lease contract state that they must be returned in the condition they were received in. Hence the C6 overhaul. Southern are very enthusiastic to get these trains. Once they do, the interiors will be gutted entirely, then rebranded into Southern's colours. There is a question over whether the buffet will be retained. The traction equipment will be completely stripped, the wiring looked at and changed if necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 3:17:04 GMT
The conditions of the contract with Bombardier actually just state what work is to be performed there, it doesn't specify which livery so they could just return in basecoat. I have an email from the top electrification bod of the SWML (BMH - WEY) who said the 442s should be OK - the parts for the 442s were ripped from the youngest REPs so the youngest traction equipment is really only about 30 years old, oldest being about 35-36 years old. The louder ones are the older ones FYI. Regarding too expensive - correct, but they shouldn't have bid over the odds. The things are fantastic and it would be a disappointment to see them go. And yes, Southern would be delighed to have them, but they only need 6-10. What are you going to do with the other 14? Run London - Weymouth of course! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 12:29:06 GMT
The timetable change M-F diagrams: *pax services listed only*
Ta Bentley...
BM201
2B16 05:26 Poole - Brockenhurst
2B03 06:07 Brockenhurst - Poole
2B28 07:20 Poole - London Waterloo (calls Beaulieu Road)
1B29 11:05 London Waterloo - Poole
1B50 14:01 Poole - London Waterloo (with BM218)
1W53 17:05 London Waterloo - Southampton Central (with BM218)
2B53 18:25 Southampton Central - Poole
1B74 19:54 Poole - London Waterloo
1B97 23:05 London Waterloo - Poole
BM202
2B09 07:30 Southampton Central - Poole
1B30 08:54 Poole - London Waterloo
1B33 12:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with BM205)
1B54 15:01 Poole - London Waterloo (with BM205)
1B57 18:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with BM205)
BM203
2B96 07:15 Southampton Central - London Waterloo
1W23 09:35 London Waterloo - Weymouth
1W48 13:00 Weymouth - London Waterloo (with BM214 from Bomo)
1W51 16:35 London Waterloo - Weymouth (with BM214 until Bomo)
1W78 20:08 Weymouth - London Waterloo (with BM207 from Bomo until Waterloo)
1B81 00:05 London Waterloo - Bournemouth
BM204
1B90 05:45 Poole - London Waterloo (with BM205)
1B17 08:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with BM205 until Southampton)
1B38 11:01 Poole - London Waterloo
1B41 14:05 London Waterloo - Poole
1B62 17:01 Poole - London Waterloo
1W63 19:35 London Waterloo - Weymouth
BM205
1B90 05:45 Poole - London Waterloo (with BM204)
1B17 08:05 London Waterloo - Southampton Central (with BM204 - BM204 continues to Poole)
2B32 09:55 Southampton Central - London Waterloo (attaches BM202 at Southampton Ctl til end of diagram)
1B33 12:05 London Waterloo - Poole
1B54 15:01 Poole - London Waterloo
1B57 18:05 London Waterloo - Poole
BM206
1B94 06:34 Bournemouth - London Waterloo (with BM217 from Soton)
1B21 09:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with BM217)
1B42 12:01 Poole - London Waterloo (BM217 detaches in sdg)
1B49 16:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with BM211)
1B70 18:54 Poole - London Waterloo (with BM211 til Waterloo)
2B75 22:39 London Waterloo - Southampton Central
BM207
1B18 06:04 Bournemouth - London Waterloo (BM208 from Soton)
1W19 08:35 London Waterloo - Bournemouth (BM208 continues)
1W52 14:59 Bournemouth - London Waterloo (with BM219)
1W55 17:35 London Waterloo - Southampton Ctl (BM219 continues)
2B55 18:55 Southampton Central - Poole
1W78 21:11 Bournemouth - London Waterloo (with BM203)
BM208
1B20 06:11 Poole - London Waterloo (with BM207 from Soton)
1W19 08:35 London Waterloo - Weymouth
1W44 12:00 Weymouth - London Waterloo
1B45 15:05 London Waterloo - Poole
1B66 17:54 Poole - London Waterloo
1B69 21:05 London Waterloo - Poole
BM209
2W01 06:15 Bournemouth - Weymouth
2W26 07:25 Weymouth - Brockenhurst
1B34 10:01 Poole - London Waterloo
1B37 13:05 London Waterloo - Poole
1B58 16:01 Poole - London Waterloo
1B59 18:39 London Waterloo - Southampton Central
2B76 20:55 Southampton Central - London Waterloo
BM210 - not used
BM211
1B22 07:04 Bournemouth - London Waterloo (with 218 from Soton)
1B25 10:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with 218)
1B46 13:01 Poole - London Waterloo
1B49 16:05 London Waterloo - Poole (with 211)
1B70 18:54 Poole - London Waterloo (with 211, detach Waterloo)
1B73 22:05 London Waterloo - Poole
BM212 - not used
BM213 - not used
BM214
1W24 07:59 Bomo - Waterloo (with 219)
1W27 10:35 Waterloo - Bomo (with 219)
1W48 13:59 Bomo - Waterloo (with 203)
1W51 16:35 Waterloo - Soton Ctl (with 203 til Soton)
2B51 17:57 Southampton Ctl - Bomo
BM215 - spare
From then on, all diagrams are as I have listed before.
(there are more coming..............)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2006 8:47:36 GMT
I've included the 170s in as well, if anyone wants to chase some of 'em
Some allox at 05.00ish
170301/2 Crofton
170303 SA104 diag
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 07+20 5L22
SALISBURY 07+29 07.45 1L22
LONDON WATERLOO 09.15 09.50 1L23
SALISBURY 11.18 11+33 5L23
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 11+42 13+20 5L46
SALISBURY 13+29 13.45 1L46
LONDON WATERLOO 15.19 15.50 1L47
SALISBURY 17.18 17+25 5L62
SALISBURY 17+35 17.45 1L62
LONDON WATERLOO 19.19 19.50 1L63
SALISBURY 21.18 21+33 5L63
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 21+43
170304 SA101 diag
FRATTON C.S.D. 00+30 5Z99
FRATTON DEPOT F.P. 00+35 04+43 5J02
PORTSMOUTH HARBOUR 04+53 05.01 1J04
READING 06.37 06.56 1O27
BRIGHTON 09.23 09.57 1J30
READING 12.23 13.01 1O37
BRIGHTON 15.12 15.57 1J58
READING 18.24 19.01 1O48
BRIGHTON 21.13 21.40 1Y73
SALISBURY 23.38 00+20 5R80
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 00+31
170305 SA103 diag
Totton shuttles, ends as
ROMSEY 22.49 23.00 2R75
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 23.38 23+42 5R76
BASINGSTOKE 00+08 00+18 5R76
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 01+11
170306 SA071 'AM' diag
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 06+50 5L20
SALISBURY 07+01 07.15 1L20
LONDON WATERLOO 08.44 09.20 1L21
SALISBURY 10.42 11+11 5L21
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 11+20
170307 SA001
Totton shuttles, ends as
TOTTON 23+00 23.01 2R86
ROMSEY 23.49 23+51 5R80
SALISBURY 00+09 00+20 5R80
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 00+31
170308 SA102
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 04+55 5D96
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 05+34 05.47 2B98
EASTLEIGH 06.03 07.02 2T07
PORTSMOUTH HARBOUR 07.48 08.05 1J18
READING 09.37 10.04 1O31
BRIGHTON 12.12 12.57 1J44
READING 15.23 16.04 1O42
BRIGHTON 18.15 18.57 1J72
READING 21.21 21.55 1O50
PORTSMOUTH HARBOUR 23.40 23+47 5O50
FRATTON STAFF HALT 23+55 23+57 5O50
FRATTON C.S.D. 00+01
170392
Salisbury depot X/XAM arr 21.43 15-12
158786 SA002 diag
158789 Salisbury depot N/NML arr 23.51 18-12
159102 SA056 diag
SALISBURY 05.45 1L14
LONDON WATERLOO 07.16 07.50 1L15
SALISBURY 09.18 09.45 1L30
LONDON WATERLOO 11.19 11.50 1L31
SALISBURY 13.18 13+20 5L31
SALISBURY 13+29 16+00 5L56
SALISBURY 16+09 16.20 1L56
LONDON WATERLOO 17.45 18.20 1L57
EXETER ST DAVIDS 21.53 22.30 1L88
SALISBURY 00.28 00+31 5L88
SALISBURY T&R.S.M.D 00+41
158808 + 158814
Both worked 23.22 York - Newcastle last night,
not allocated so far today
John A
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2006 8:48:28 GMT
Some allocations at 05.15ish
2401 BM202 diag
Ends 18.05 Wloo - Poole
2402 BM depot, X/XAM arr 02.00 1-12
2403 BM217 'AM' diag
Ends 09.05 Wloo - Poole
2404 BM205 diag
Ends 18.05 Wloo - Poole
2405 Clap Yard N/NML arr 23.25 18-12
no allocation yet
2406 BM203 diag
Ends 00.05 Wloo - Bomo
2407 BM206 diag
Ends 22.39 Wloo - Soton
2408 BM214 diag
Ends 22.11 Bomo - Wloo
2409 BM220 diag
Ends 19.05 Wloo - Poole
2410 BM204 diag
Ends 19.35 Wloo - Weym
2411 Wim Park (Wheels) T/TFR arr 11.45 8-12
2412 BM209 diag
Ends 20.55 Soton - Wloo
2413 BM208 diag
Ends 21.05 Wloo - Poole
2414 BM211 diag
Ends 22.05 Wloo - Poole
2415 BM depot T/TFR arr 06.00 7-12
2416 Weymouth N/NML arr 23.21 18-12
No allocation yet
2417 BM depot N/NML arr 21.13 17-12
2418 BM depot X/XAM arr 21.13 10-12
2419 BM201 diag
Ends 23.05 Wloo - Poole
2420 BM218 diag
Ends 17.05 Wloo - Weym
2421 Ilford woreks, C6 overhaul/repaint
2422 BM219 diag
Ends 21.10 Weym - Wloo
2423 BM depot N/NML arr 00.21 today
(Off BM215)
2424 BM207 'AM' diag
Ends 08.35 Wloo - Bomo
Thats all
John A
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Phil
In memoriam
RIP 23-Oct-2018
Posts: 9,473
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Post by Phil on Dec 19, 2006 10:16:43 GMT
Thread locked: see Antharro's latest thread
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