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Post by trainopd78 on Nov 24, 2006 12:47:56 GMT
They might be going over to Southern for Victoria - Brighton... I really hope so. Anything has to be better than those electrostars. I reckon if you sit on Southern seats for more than an hour you're in danger of getting DVT. ;D and the electrostars kick like a mule. The Kinematic envelope on them must be huge. 319's built 15 years previously ride so much better. |
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Post by antharro on Nov 25, 2006 1:12:30 GMT
Just a note: I had a long chat with a customer services rep at SWT today who strongly advised me to write in and protest, as she felt that if a good number of people wrote in to complain and protest, that SWT may do something. She also said that she'd spoken to a number of people on the phone who were unhappy about the withdrawal. I'm skeptical as I'd imagine the deal with Southern has presumably already been done, but I'm writing in anyway. I'd suggest you do the same... it can't hurt. Address here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2006 2:03:22 GMT
The deal hasn't occured at all - it's all speculation.
SWT have now announced the changeover on their website - but they do have other options.
The units could stay on if a certain part of the traction package is replaced, or at least so I'm told by one of the people who designed the units! Just as quick detail, the 442s are quite dissimilar to the slammers, par example the following were never included in any slammer:
EE546 traction motors (clH insulation)
Two camshafts (field control, resistance control)
PGS contactors
Line breakers
NEI auxiliary converters
For reference - this was yesterdays services and units.
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Post by markt on Nov 25, 2006 5:02:55 GMT
They might be going over to Southern for Victoria - Brighton... Although widely speculated, doubtful. No space at Brighton Depot (half the shed is now "cleaning" roads with third rail and no pits) and Selhurst Depot have already got 5 different types of main line traction without yet another one... I won't say never though.  |
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2401 :
WEYMOUTH 07+40 5W26 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 08+50 08.59 1W28 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 11.30 12.05 1W35 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 14.29 14+37 5W35 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 14+39 14+48 5W52 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 14+50 14.59 1W52 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 17.30 18.05 1W59 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 20.29 20+37 5B00 BM216
BRANKSOME 20+41 20+50 5B00 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+55 BM216
2403 :
WEYMOUTH 06.55 1W24 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 07.54 07.59 1W24 BM215
LONDON WATERLOO 10.30 11.05 1W31 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 13.29 13.34 1W31 BM215
WEYMOUTH 14.38 15.00 1W56 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 15.54 15.59 1W56 BM215
LONDON WATERLOO 18.30 19.05 1W63 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 21.29 21.34 1W63 BM215
WEYMOUTH 22.38 23.10 2W86 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 00.03 00+05 5Z80 BM215
WINCHESTER 00+46 00+47 5Z80 BM215
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 00+49 00+55 5Z80 BM215
WINCHESTER 00+57 01.20 1B81 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 02.22 02+24 5B81 BM215
BRANKSOME 02+29 02+38 5B81 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+42 BM215
2404 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 06+05 5B19 BM208
POOLE 06+14 06.27 1B20 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 09.30 10.05 1W27 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 12.32 12.37 1W27 BM208
WEYMOUTH 13.38 14.00 1W52 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 14.54 14.59 1W52 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 17.30 18.05 1W59 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 20.29 20.34 1W59 BM208
WEYMOUTH 21.38 22.10 2W84 BM208
EASTLEIGH 00.19 00+20 5Z13 BM208
WINCHESTER 00+28 00+29 5Z13 BM208
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 00+31 00+37 5Z13 BM208
WINCHESTER 00+39 00.42 2Z13 BM208
POOLE 01.59 02+01 5Z14 BM208
POOLE S. S. 02+03 02+09 5Z14 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+20 BM208
2405 :
LONDON WATERLOO 00.05 1B81 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 02.17 02+19 5B81 BM203
BRANKSOME 02+24 02+33 5B81 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+37 05+10 5B15 BM203
POOLE 05+19 05.30 1B16 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 08.30 09.05 1W23 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 11.29 11.34 1W23 BM203
WEYMOUTH 12.38 13.00 1W48 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 13.54 13.59 1W48 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 16.30 17.05 1W55 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 19.29 19.34 1W55 BM203
WEYMOUTH 20.38 21.10 2W80 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 22.07 22.11 2W80 BM203
WINCHESTER 23.23 23+25 5W67 BM203
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 23+27 23+33 5W67 BM203
WINCHESTER 23+35 23.42 2W67 BM203
WAREHAM 01.28 01+37 5Z68 BM203
WAREHAM 01+48 01+49 5Z68 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+08 BM203
2406 :
LONDON WATERLOO 06.05 1W11 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 08.35 08.40 1W11 BM217
WEYMOUTH 09.37 10.00 1W36 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 10.54 10.59 1W36 BM217
LONDON WATERLOO 13.30 14.05 1W43 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 16.29 16.34 1W43 BM217
WEYMOUTH 17.38 18.00 1W68 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 18.54 18.59 1W68 BM217
LONDON WATERLOO 21.30 21+40 5Y07 BM217
CLAPHAM YARD 21+55 BM217
2407 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 06+05 5B19 BM209
POOLE 06+14 06.27 1B20 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 09.30 10.05 1W27 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 12.32 12+40 5W27 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 12+42 12+48 5W44 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 12+50 12.59 1W44 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 15.30 16.05 1W51 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 18.31 18+38 5W51 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 18+40 18+48 5W68 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 18+50 18.59 1W68 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 21.30 21+40 5Y07 BM209
CLAPHAM YARD 21+55 BM209
2408 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+10 5B15 BM204
POOLE 05+19 05.30 1B16 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 08.30 09.05 1W23 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 11.29 11+37 5W23 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 11+39 11+49 5W40 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 11+51 11.59 1W40 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 14.30 15.05 1W47 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 17.29 17+37 5W47 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 17+39 17+48 5W64 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 17+50 17.59 1W64 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 20.30 22.05 1B95 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 00.37 00.42 1B95 BM204
WEYMOUTH 01.35 BM204
2409 :
CLAPHAM YARD 07+40 5W19 BM213
LONDON WATERLOO 07+49 08.05 1W19 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 10.29 10.34 1W19 BM213
WEYMOUTH 11.38 12.00 1W44 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 12.54 12.59 1W44 BM213
LONDON WATERLOO 15.30 16.05 1W51 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 18.31 18.36 1W51 BM213
WEYMOUTH 19.38 20.06 1W78 BM213
WINCHESTER 22.21 22+23 5W63 BM213
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 22+25 22+31 5W63 BM213
WINCHESTER 22+33 22.42 2W63 BM213
WAREHAM 00.24 00+27 5Z64 BM213
WAREHAM 00+38 00+39 5Z64 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+59 BM213
2410 :
LONDON WATERLOO 07.05 1W13 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 09.43 09.45 1W13 BM218
WEYMOUTH 10.42 11.00 1W40 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 11.54 11.59 1W40 BM218
LONDON WATERLOO 14.30 15.05 1W47 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 17.29 17.34 1W47 BM218
WEYMOUTH 18.38 19.00 1W72 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 19.54 19.59 1W72 BM218
LONDON WATERLOO 22.33 23.05 1B97 BM218
POOLE 01.46 01+55 5B98 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+04 BM218
2411 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+40 5B03 BM206
POOLE 05+49 06.01 1B04 BM206
WINCHESTER 07.20 07+40 5B15 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 07+42 07+48 5B15 BM206
WINCHESTER 07+50 08.12 1B15 BM206
POOLE 09.34 09+35 5B15 BM206
POOLE S. S. 09+37 09+48 5B34 BM206
POOLE 09+50 10.01 1B34 BM206
WINCHESTER 11.20 11+23 5W27 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 11+25 11+31 5W27 BM206
WINCHESTER 11+33 11.42 2W27 BM206
WAREHAM 13.23 13+30 5W27 BM206
WAREHAM 13+41 13.59 2W50 BM206
WINCHESTER 15.47 15+49 5B45 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 15+51 15+57 5B45 BM206
WINCHESTER 15+59 16.12 1B45 BM206
POOLE 17.34 17+36 5B45 BM206
POOLE S. S. 17+38 17+48 5B66 BM206
POOLE 17+50 18.01 1B66 BM206
WINCHESTER 19.20 19+23 5B59 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 19+25 19+31 5B59 BM206
WINCHESTER 19+33 19.42 2B59 BM206
WAREHAM 21.21 21+38 5W82 BM206
WAREHAM 21+49 21.59 2W82 BM206
WINCHESTER 23.47 23+49 5B77 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 23+51 23+57 5B77 BM206
WINCHESTER 23+59 00.12 2Z11 BM206
POOLE 01.32 01+38 5Z11 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+47 BM206
2412 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+20 5B02 BM205
BRANKSOME 05+24 05+31 5B02 BM205
BROCKENHURST 06+03 06.16 2B03 BM205
POOLE 06.57 06+58 5B03 BM205
POOLE S. S. 07+00 07+55 5B26 BM205
POOLE 07+57 08.01 1B26 BM205
WINCHESTER 09.20 09+23 5W19 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 09+25 09+31 5W19 BM205
WINCHESTER 09+33 09.42 2W19 BM205
WAREHAM 11.21 11+30 5W19 BM205
WAREHAM 11+41 11.59 2W42 BM205
WINCHESTER 13.47 13+49 5B37 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 13+51 13+57 5B37 BM205
WINCHESTER 13+59 14.12 1B37 BM205
POOLE 15.34 15+36 5B37 BM205
POOLE S. S. 15+38 15+57 5B58 BM205
POOLE 15+59 16.01 1B58 BM205
WINCHESTER 17.20 17+23 5W51 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 17+25 17+31 5W51 BM205
WINCHESTER 17+33 17.42 2W51 BM205
WAREHAM 19.21 19+30 5W84 BM205
WAREHAM 19+41 19.59 2W74 BM205
WINCHESTER 21.47 21+49 5B69 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 21+51 21+57 5B69 BM205
WINCHESTER 21+59 22.12 1B69 BM205
POOLE 23.38 23+45 5B70 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 23+54 BM205
2414 :
WEYMOUTH 06+40 5W24 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 07+30 07+36 5W24 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 07+38 07+48 5W24 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 07+50 07.59 1W24 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 10.30 11.05 1W31 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 13.29 13+37 5W31 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 13+39 13+48 5W48 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 13+50 13.59 1W48 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 16.30 17.05 1W55 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 19.29 19+37 5W55 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 19+39 19+48 5W72 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 19+50 19.59 1W72 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 22.33 BM214
2416 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 10+30 5W36 BM212
BRANKSOME 10+34 10+43 5W36 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 10+49 10.59 1W36 BM212
LONDON WATERLOO 13.30 14.05 1W43 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 16.29 16+37 5W43 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 16+39 16+48 5W60 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 16+50 16.59 1W60 BM212
LONDON WATERLOO 19.30 20.05 1W67 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 22.29 22.34 1W67 BM212
WEYMOUTH 23.38 BM212
2417 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 08+19 5W29 BM210
WAREHAM 08+36 08.59 2W30 BM210
WINCHESTER 10.47 10+49 5B25 BM210
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 10+51 10+57 5B25 BM210
WINCHESTER 10+59 11.12 1B25 BM210
POOLE 12.34 12+36 5B25 BM210
POOLE S. S. 12+38 12+48 5B46 BM210
POOLE 12+50 13.01 1B46 BM210
WINCHESTER 14.20 14+23 5W39 BM210
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 14+25 14+31 5W39 BM210
WINCHESTER 14+33 14.42 2W39 BM210
WAREHAM 16.21 16+30 5W39 BM210
WAREHAM 16+41 16.59 2W62 BM210
WINCHESTER 18.47 18+49 5B57 BM210
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 18+51 18+57 5B57 BM210
WINCHESTER 18+59 19.12 1B57 BM210
POOLE 20.34 20+42 5B76 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+52 BM210
2419 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 04+00 5B14 BM201
BRANKSOME 04+04 04+13 5B14 BM201
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 04+44 05.13 2B16 BM201
WINCHESTER 05.40 05+45 5W07 BM201
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 05+47 05+57 5W07 BM201
WINCHESTER 05+59 06.41 1W07 BM201
WEYMOUTH 08.50 09.00 1W32 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 09.54 09.59 1W32 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 12.30 13.05 1W39 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 15.29 15.34 1W39 BM201
WEYMOUTH 16.38 17.00 1W64 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 17.54 17.59 1W64 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 20.30 21.05 1W71 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 23.32 23.37 1W71 BM201
WEYMOUTH 00.38 BM201
2420 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+45 5W01 BM207
BRANKSOME 05+49 05+58 5W01 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 06+03 06.15 2W01 BM207
WEYMOUTH 07.16 07.55 1W28 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 08.54 08.59 1W28 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 11.30 12.05 1W35 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 14.29 14.34 1W35 BM207
WEYMOUTH 15.38 16.00 1W60 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 16.54 16.59 1W60 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 19.30 19+36 5Y61 BM207
WIMBLEDON PARK 19+47 BM207
2421 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 09+30 5W32 BM211
BRANKSOME 09+34 09+43 5W32 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 09+49 09.59 1W32 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 12.30 13.05 1W39 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 15.29 15+37 5W39 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 15+39 15+48 5W56 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 15+50 15.59 1W56 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 18.30 19.05 1W63 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 21.29 21+37 5W63 BM211
BRANKSOME 21+42 21+49 5W63 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+53 BM211
2424 :
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 04+00 5B14 BM202
BRANKSOME 04+04 04+13 5B14 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 04+44 04.50 2B14 BM202
WINCHESTER 05.10 05+12 5B13 BM202
WINCHESTER 05+22 05+23 5B13 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 05+36 05.46 1B14 BM202
WINCHESTER 06.08 06+35 5B11 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 06+37 06+47 5B11 BM202
WINCHESTER 06+49 07.12 1B11 BM202
POOLE 08.34 08+36 5B11 BM202
POOLE S. S. 08+38 08+48 5B09 BM202
POOLE 08+50 09.01 1B30 BM202
WINCHESTER 10.20 10+23 5W23 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 10+25 10+31 5W23 BM202
WINCHESTER 10+33 10.42 2W23 BM202
WAREHAM 12.21 12+30 5W23 BM202
WAREHAM 12+41 12.59 2W46 BM202
WINCHESTER 14.47 14+49 5B41 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 14+51 14+57 5B41 BM202
WINCHESTER 14+59 15.12 1B41 BM202
POOLE 16.34 16+36 5B41 BM202
POOLE S. S. 16+38 16+57 5B62 BM202
POOLE 16+59 17.01 1B62 BM202
WINCHESTER 18.20 18+23 5B55 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 18+25 18+31 5B55 BM202
WINCHESTER 18+33 18.42 2B55 BM202
WAREHAM 20.21 20+38 5W78 BM202
WAREHAM 20+49 20.59 2W78 BM202
WINCHESTER 22.47 22+49 5B73 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 22+51 22+57 5B73 BM202
WINCHESTER 22+59 23.12 1B73 BM202
POOLE 00.38 00+46 5B74 BM202
WINCHESTER 01+36 01+37 5B74 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 01+39 01+48 5B74 BM202
WINCHESTER 01+50 01.53 1B83 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH 02.55 02+57 5Z83 BM202
BRANKSOME 03+01 03+07 5Z83 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 03+12 BM202
Proboards can't seem to line spaces up correctly. Oh well.
The 442s that aren't running today are:
2402 - Ilford on C6
2413 - Presume BM depot (last worked 19/11)
2415 - BM depot (last worked 10/11)
2418 - BM depot off 2305 London - Poole last night (BM201)
2422 - BM depot off 2235 London - Poole last night (BM208)
2423 - BM depot (last worked 22/11)
Ta Colin
That's todays allocations...
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Post by antharro on Nov 26, 2006 2:47:12 GMT
The deal hasn't occured at all - it's all speculation. SWT have now announced the changeover on their website - but they do have other options. The units could stay on if a certain part of the traction package is replaced, or at least so I'm told by one of the people who designed the units! Interesting information, thanks. I jumped to the conclusion that they're going to Southern because of the fact they're being withdrawn. I can't see the point of withdrawing them if they're going to just sit in storage. However, if SWT are wanting, as their website says, to "provide as many seats as possible where they are most needed", then I could understand that, but I'd hardly think it was worth swapping all those trains around just for 18 extra standard class seats (and 15 less 1st class). I guess shorter dwell time on the 444s would make a difference. The traction package change you mentioned - is this something that would be cost effective for SWT? Is it just the motors as you mentioned earlier, or is it something more involved? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2006 4:15:15 GMT
Depends what the leasing costs drop to when SWT drop the units to be honest.
Dwell times will be higher with 444s, as the guard closes his PLUG door which takes time, rather than just slamming his "slam" door which takes a second, so in delays 442s are better.
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Today's allocations...
2401
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 07+12 5Z63 BM201
POOLE 07+21 07.32 1Z64 BM201
GUILDFORD 09.38 09.40 1Z64 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 10.23 10.54 1W31 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 13.34 13.39 1W31 BM201
WEYMOUTH 14.35 15.48 1W60 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 16.46 16.51 1W60 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 19.19 19.54 1W67 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 22.34 22.39 1W67 BM201
WEYMOUTH 23.35 BM201
2402 – Ilford Works
2403
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 11+23 5W40 BM208
BRANKSOME 11+27 11+36 5W40 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 11+43 11.51 1W40 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 14.23 14.54 1W47 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 17.34 17+44 5W47 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 17+46 18+41 5W68 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 18+43 18.51 1W68 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 21.19 22.54 1W79 BM208
POOLE 01.54 02+03 5Z80 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+12 BM208
2404 – Bomo, Exam (last worked yesterday, off BM208 arr BM depot 0208)
2405
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 09+05 5W15 BM205
BRANKSOME 09+09 09+18 5W15 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH 09+23 09.39 1W15 BM205
WEYMOUTH 10.35 11.48 1W44 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH 12.46 12.51 1W44 BM205
LONDON WATERLOO 15.23 15.54 1W51 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH 18.34 18.39 1W51 BM205
WEYMOUTH 19.35 19+45 5W72 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+26 BM205
2406 – Bomo, Exam (last worked yesterday, probably ran ECS Clapham - Bomo)
2407
CLAPHAM YARD 08+25 5W23 BM212
LONDON WATERLOO 08+33 08.54 1W23 BM212
WEYMOUTH 12.35 13.48 1W52 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 14.46 14.51 1W52 BM212
LONDON WATERLOO 17.23 17.54 1W59 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 20.34 20.39 1W59 BM212
WEYMOUTH 21.35 21.48 1W84 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 22.46 23+06 5B69 BM212
BRANKSOME 23+11 23+20 5B69 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 23+24 BM212
2408
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 08+00 5W10 BM203
BRANKSOME 08+04 08+14 5W10 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 08+19 08.39 1W11 BM203
WEYMOUTH 09.35 09.48 1W36 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 10.46 10.51 1W36 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 13.23 13.54 1W43 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 16.34 16.39 1W43 BM203
WEYMOUTH 17.35 18.48 1W72 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 19.46 19.51 1W72 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 22.19 22+28 5Z33 BM203
CLAPHAM YARD 22+43 01+00 5W07 BM203
LONDON WATERLOO 01+09 BM203
2409
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 08+00 5W10 BM204
BRANKSOME 08+04 08+14 5W10 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 08+19 08.51 1W28 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 11.23 11.54 1W35 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 14.34 14+44 5W35 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 14+46 15+41 5W56 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 15+43 15.51 1W56 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 18.19 18.54 1W63 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 21.34 21+55 5W63 BM204
BRANKSOME 22+00 22+09 5W63 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 22+13 BM204
2410
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 12+20 5W44 BM209
BRANKSOME 12+24 12+33 5W44 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 12+43 12.51 1W44 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 15.23 15.54 1W51 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 18.34 18+44 5W51 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 18+46 19+41 5W72 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 19+43 19.51 1W72 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 22.19 22+28 5Z33 BM209
CLAPHAM YARD 22+43 01+00 5W07 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 01+09 BM209
2411
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 09+05 5W15 BM206
BRANKSOME 09+09 09+18 5W15 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH 09+23 09.51 1W32 BM206
LONDON WATERLOO 12.23 12.54 1W39 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH 15.34 15+44 5W39 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 15+46 16+42 5W60 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH 16+44 16.51 1W60 BM206
LONDON WATERLOO 19.19 19.54 1W67 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH 22.34 23+06 5B69 BM206
BRANKSOME 23+11 23+20 5B69 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 23+24 BM206
2412 – Bomo, Spare (last worked yesterday on BM205, arr BM depot 2354)
2413
CLAPHAM YARD 08+25 5W23 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 08+33 09.54 1W27 BM211
WEYMOUTH 13.35 14.48 1W56 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 15.46 15.51 1W56 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 18.19 18.54 1W63 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 21.34 21.39 1W63 BM211
WEYMOUTH 22.35 22.48 1W88 BM211
BROCKENHURST 00.17 00+23 5B87 BM211
BRANKSOME 00+44 00+53 5B87 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+57 BM211
2414
LONDON WATERLOO 07.54 1W19 BM217
WEYMOUTH 11.36 12.48 1W48 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 13.46 13.51 1W48 BM217
LONDON WATERLOO 16.23 16.54 1W55 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 19.34 19.39 1W55 BM217
WEYMOUTH 20.35 20.48 1W80 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 21.46 21+55 5W63 BM217
BRANKSOME 22+00 22+09 5W63 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 22+13 BM217
2415 – Bomo, T/TFR (last worked 10/11)
2416
WEYMOUTH 08.43 1W32 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 09.46 09.51 1W32 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 12.23 12.54 1W39 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 15.34 15.39 1W39 BM214
WEYMOUTH 16.35 17.48 1W68 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 18.46 18.51 1W68 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 21.19 21.54 1W75 BM214
WEYMOUTH 01.35 BM214
2417
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 10+23 5W36 BM207
BRANKSOME 10+27 10+36 5W36 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 10+43 10.51 1W36 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 13.23 13.54 1W43 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 16.34 16+45 5W43 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 16+47 17+41 5W64 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 17+43 17.51 1W64 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 20.19 20.54 1W71 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 23.34 23+42 5W71 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 23+44 23+52 5B73 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 23+54 00+03 5B73 BM207
BRANKSOME 00+08 00+17 5B73 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+21 BM207
2418
WEYMOUTH 07.43 1W28 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 08.46 08.51 1W28 BM213
LONDON WATERLOO 11.23 11.54 1W35 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 14.34 14.39 1W35 BM213
WEYMOUTH 15.35 16.48 1W64 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 17.46 17.51 1W64 BM213
LONDON WATERLOO 20.19 20.54 1W71 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 23.34 23.39 1W71 BM213
WEYMOUTH 00.35 BM213
2419
WEYMOUTH 10.48 1W40 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 11.46 11.51 1W40 BM215
LONDON WATERLOO 14.23 14.54 1W47 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 17.34 17.39 1W47 BM215
WEYMOUTH 18.35 19.48 1W76 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 20.46 20+55 5W59 BM215
BRANKSOME 21+00 21+09 5W59 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+13 BM215
2420 – Wimbledon Park, Spare (last worked yesterday, arr WM 1947)
2421
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 07+12 5Z63 BM202
POOLE 07+21 07.32 1Z64 BM202
GUILDFORD 09.38 09.40 1Z64 BM202
LONDON WATERLOO 10.23 10.54 1W31 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH 13.34 13+44 5W31 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 13+46 14+41 5W52 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH 14+43 14.51 1W52 BM202
LONDON WATERLOO 17.23 17.54 1W59 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH 20.34 20+55 5W59 BM202
BRANKSOME 21+00 21+09 5W59 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+13 BM202
2422 – Bomo, T/TFR (last worked 24/11 on BM201 (2205 London - Poole))
2423 – Bomo, Exam (last worked 24/11 on BM208 (2235 London - Poole))
2424
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 13+19 5W48 BM210
BRANKSOME 13+23 13+32 5W48 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH 13+43 13.51 1W48 BM210
LONDON WATERLOO 16.23 16.54 1W55 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH 19.34 19+44 5W55 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 19+46 23+52 5B73 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH 23+54 00+03 5B73 BM210
BRANKSOME 00+08 00+17 5B73 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+21 BM210
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Post by johnb on Nov 29, 2006 14:44:20 GMT
If they took on the Wessies, it'd stay at 5 types - the 442s would (start a cascade to) displace the remaining 319s.
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Post by trainopd78 on Nov 30, 2006 12:17:48 GMT
If they took on the Wessies, it'd stay at 5 types - the 442s would (start a cascade to) displace the remaining 319s. If they were put in service on Headcode 4, it would be Brighton that would be responsible for their maintenance and crewing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2006 5:40:04 GMT
5X42 ran last night (Ilford EMUD - Bournemouth T&RSMD) departed r/t.
2402 was in FULL SWT livery. That's FULL SWT livery, yes, I said FULL SWT livery.
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Post by antharro on Dec 1, 2006 16:30:39 GMT
2402 was in FULL SWT livery. That's FULL SWT livery, yes, I said FULL SWT livery. Conspiracy theorists are now welcome. Hmm. This is very interesting.... |
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Post by trc666 on Dec 1, 2006 19:50:38 GMT
When you say 'full SWT' livery, do you mean in the same style as 450s or as seen on 159s/444s/458s? I wonder what one of the CIGs would look like in modern SWT livery?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2006 20:00:42 GMT
Full SWT Express, as per the other lot...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2006 20:06:17 GMT
What else would it be painted in, Southern green or West Coast grey?
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Post by Oracle on Dec 1, 2006 21:36:27 GMT
Query: do the Wombledon Park stablers use Point Pleasant junction ECS to get to and from Waterloo?
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Post by trc666 on Dec 1, 2006 21:40:24 GMT
Here's one I made earlier, a SWT Express liveried CIG! Kind of suits it in a way. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2006 10:32:45 GMT
Query: do the Wombledon Park stablers use Point Pleasant junction ECS to get to and from Waterloo? Depends, but not really according to the latest CWN. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 16:18:56 GMT
2421 taking a trip to Ilford today... any conspiracy theorists around?
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Post by Tubeboy on Dec 4, 2006 16:39:35 GMT
2421 taking a trip to Ilford today... any conspiracy theorists around? Pilot refurb programme, I heard they may go on the London-Brighton line? |
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Post by antharro on Dec 4, 2006 19:44:44 GMT
Pilot refurb programme, I heard they may go on the London-Brighton line? Perhaps. But I was under the impression that London - Brighton was run by Southern, not SWT. So if 2412 is going the same was as 2402 with regard to its livery, wouldn't it make more sense to have it painted up in Southern colours, not SWT's? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 19:46:02 GMT
Considering 2402 hasn't been back in service since it returned...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2006 19:46:18 GMT
2421 taking a trip to Ilford today... any conspiracy theorists around? Yeh, 47830 took it today |
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Post by antharro on Dec 4, 2006 22:51:01 GMT
Anyone got any photos of either 2402 in its new livery, or of 2412 being pulled along?
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Post by scorpio on Dec 6, 2006 16:12:14 GMT
Here's one I made earlier, a SWT Express liveried CIG! I wonder what a VEP would look like in SWT Blue Suburban or Red Metro. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2006 17:49:15 GMT
Today's allocations are .... Ta John A
2401 BM N/NML arr 23.50 5-12
2402 BM X/XAM arr 02.00 1-12
2403 BM208
2404 BM216
2405 BM219
2406 BM X/XAM arr 20.10 25-11
2407 BM N/NML arr 21.11 5-12
2408 BM203
2409 BM201
2410 BM206
2411 BM N/NML arr 23.00 5-12
2412 BM218
2413 BM209
2414 BM204
2415 BM T/TFR arr 23.50 10-11
2416 BM205
2417 BM220
2418 BM207
2419 BM217
2420 BM221
2421 Ilford C6 overhaul (shows BM T/TFR 20.52 2-12)
2422 BM211
2423 BM214
2424 BM202
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Post by antharro on Dec 7, 2006 1:42:51 GMT
Hmm, this gets more and more interesting. What with the new livery on the first unit and 2412 off at the works...
Throwing a couple of theories out in the open here...
I wonder if there's a chance that they're being re-liveried for re-deployment on SWT metals, and that with the re-introduction of the 458s, perhaps there's enough spare capacity that other stocks can be shuffled around and the 444s can be used as a temporary measure to fill the gap? If this is the case, why haven't SWT just said they were refurbing them...
Or, perhaps this is a trial refurb, perhaps to see if it's worth (read as: financially viable) to do both the external livery and a mechanical overhaul for the entire fleet, and they've only done the externals so far...?
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If anyone at the meet today is looking out for the 442s....
Ta Fat Richard
2401
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+45 5W01 BM207
BRANKSOME 05+49 05+58 5W01 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 06+03 06.15 2W01 BM207
WEYMOUTH 07.16 07.55 1W28 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 08.54 08.59 1W28 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 11.36 12.05 1W35 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 14.29 14.34 1W35 BM207
WEYMOUTH 15.38 16.00 1W60 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 16.54 16.59 1W60 BM207
LONDON WATERLOO 19.36 19+48 5Y71 BM207
WIMBLEDON PARK 20+03 BM207
2403
POOLE 01+39 5B98 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+48 06+05 5B19 BM208
POOLE 06+14 06.27 1B20 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 09.36 10.05 1W27 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 12.32 12.37 1W27 BM208
WEYMOUTH 13.38 14.00 1W52 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 14.54 14.59 1W52 BM208
LONDON WATERLOO 17.36 18.05 1W59 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH 20.29 20.34 1W59 BM208
WEYMOUTH 21.38 22.10 2W84 BM208
EASTLEIGH 00.16 00+17 5Z13 BM208
WINCHESTER 00+25 00+26 5Z13 BM208
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 00+28 00+34 5Z13 BM208
WINCHESTER 00+36 00.42 2Z13 BM208
POOLE 01.59 02+01 5Z16 BM208
POOLE S. S. 02+03 02+09 5Z16 BM208
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+20 BM208
2404
LONDON WATERLOO 06.05 1W11 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 08.35 08.40 1W11 BM217
WEYMOUTH 09.37 10.00 1W36 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 10.54 10.59 1W36 BM217
LONDON WATERLOO 13.36 14.05 1W43 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 16.29 16.34 1W43 BM217
WEYMOUTH 17.38 18.00 1W68 BM217
BOURNEMOUTH 18.54 18.59 1W68 BM217
LONDON WATERLOO 21.37 21+48 5Y09 BM217
CLAPHAM YARD 22+03 BM217
2405
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 04+00 5B14 BM201
BRANKSOME 04+04 04+13 5B14 BM201
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 04+44 05.13 2B16 BM201
WINCHESTER 05.40 05+45 5W07 BM201
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 05+47 05+57 5W07 BM201
WINCHESTER 05+59 06.41 1W07 BM201
WEYMOUTH 08.50 09.00 1W32 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 09.54 09.59 1W32 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 12.36 13.05 1W39 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 15.29 15.34 1W39 BM201
WEYMOUTH 16.38 17.00 1W64 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 17.54 17.59 1W64 BM201
LONDON WATERLOO 20.36 21.05 1W71 BM201
BOURNEMOUTH 23.32 23.37 1W71 BM201
WEYMOUTH 00.31 BM201
2408
WEYMOUTH 06.55 1W24 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 07.54 07.59 1W24 BM215
LONDON WATERLOO 10.36 11.05 1W31 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 13.29 13.34 1W31 BM215
WEYMOUTH 14.38 15.00 1W56 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 15.54 15.59 1W56 BM215
LONDON WATERLOO 18.36 19.05 1W63 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 21.33 21.37 1W63 BM215
WEYMOUTH 22.31 23.10 2W86 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 00.03 00+05 5Z80 BM215
WINCHESTER 00+46 00+47 5Z80 BM215
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 00+49 00+55 5Z80 BM215
WINCHESTER 00+57 01.20 1B81 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH 02.22 02+27 5B81 BM215
BRANKSOME 02+32 02+41 5B81 BM215
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+45 BM215
2409
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+40 5B03 BM206
POOLE 05+49 06.01 1B04 BM206
WINCHESTER 07.20 07+40 5B15 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 07+42 07+48 5B15 BM206
WINCHESTER 07+50 08.12 1B15 BM206
POOLE 09.34 09+35 5B15 BM206
POOLE S. S. 09+37 09+48 5B34 BM206
POOLE 09+50 10.01 1B34 BM206
WINCHESTER 11.20 11+23 5W27 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 11+25 11+31 5W27 BM206
WINCHESTER 11+33 11.42 2W27 BM206
WAREHAM 13.23 13+30 5W27 BM206
WAREHAM 13+41 13.59 2W50 BM206
WINCHESTER 15.47 15+49 5B45 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 15+51 15+57 5B45 BM206
WINCHESTER 15+59 16.12 1B45 BM206
POOLE 17.34 17+36 5B45 BM206
POOLE S. S. 17+38 17+48 5B66 BM206
POOLE 17+50 18.01 1B66 BM206
WINCHESTER 19.20 19+23 5B59 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 19+25 19+31 5B59 BM206
WINCHESTER 19+33 19.42 2B59 BM206
WAREHAM 21.21 21+38 5W82 BM206
WAREHAM 21+49 21.59 2W82 BM206
WINCHESTER 23.47 23+49 5B77 BM206
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 23+51 23+57 5B77 BM206
WINCHESTER 23+59 00.12 2Z11 BM206
POOLE 01.32 01+38 5Z12 BM206
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+47 BM206
2410
POOLE 00+38 5B74 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+48 06+05 5B19 BM209
POOLE 06+14 06.27 1B20 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 09.36 10.05 1W27 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 12.32 12+40 5W27 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 12+42 12+48 5W44 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 12+50 12.59 1W44 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 15.36 16.05 1W51 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 18.30 18+37 5W51 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 18+39 18+48 5W68 BM209
BOURNEMOUTH 18+50 18.59 1W68 BM209
LONDON WATERLOO 21.37 21+48 5Y09 BM209
CLAPHAM YARD 22+03 BM209
2412
POOLE 00+49 5B96 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 00+58 10+30 5W36 BM212
BRANKSOME 10+34 10+43 5W36 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 10+49 10.59 1W36 BM212
LONDON WATERLOO 13.36 14.05 1W43 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 16.29 16+37 5W43 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 16+39 16+48 5W60 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 16+50 16.59 1W60 BM212
LONDON WATERLOO 19.36 20.05 1W67 BM212
BOURNEMOUTH 22.29 22.34 1W67 BM212
WEYMOUTH 23.38 BM212
2413
LONDON WATERLOO 07.05 1W13 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 09.43 09.45 1W13 BM218
WEYMOUTH 10.42 11.00 1W40 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 11.54 11.59 1W40 BM218
LONDON WATERLOO 14.36 15.05 1W47 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 17.29 17.34 1W47 BM218
WEYMOUTH 18.38 19.00 1W72 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH 19.54 19.59 1W72 BM218
LONDON WATERLOO 22.36 23.05 1B97 BM218
POOLE 02.08 02+10 5B98 BM218
POOLE S. S. 02+12 02+18 5B98 BM218
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+29 BM218
2414
WEYMOUTH 06+40 5W24 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 07+30 07+36 5W24 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 07+38 07+48 5W24 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 07+50 07.59 1W24 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 10.36 11.05 1W31 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 13.29 13+37 5W31 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 13+39 13+48 5W48 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 13+50 13.59 1W48 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 16.36 17.05 1W55 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 19.30 19+37 5W55 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 19+39 19+48 5W72 BM214
BOURNEMOUTH 19+50 19.59 1W72 BM214
LONDON WATERLOO 22.36 BM214
2416
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 09+30 5W32 BM211
BRANKSOME 09+34 09+43 5W32 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 09+49 09.59 1W32 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 12.36 13.05 1W39 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 15.29 15+37 5W39 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 15+39 15+48 5W56 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 15+50 15.59 1W56 BM211
LONDON WATERLOO 18.36 19.05 1W63 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH 21.33 21+39 5W63 BM211
BRANKSOME 21+44 21+51 5W63 BM211
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 21+55 BM211
2417
LONDON WATERLOO 00.05 1B81 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH 02.17 02+19 5B81 BM203
BRANKSOME 02+24 02+33 5B81 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+37 05+20 5B02 BM205
BRANKSOME 05+24 05+31 5B02 BM205
BROCKENHURST 06+03 06.16 2B03 BM205
POOLE 06.57 06+58 5B03 BM205
POOLE S. S. 07+00 07+55 5B10 BM205
POOLE 07+57 08.01 1B26 BM205
WINCHESTER 09.20 09+23 5W19 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 09+25 09+31 5W19 BM205
WINCHESTER 09+33 09.42 2W19 BM205
WAREHAM 11.21 11+30 5W19 BM205
WAREHAM 11+41 11.59 2W42 BM205
WINCHESTER 13.48 13+49 5B37 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 13+51 13+57 5B37 BM205
WINCHESTER 13+59 14.12 1B37 BM205
POOLE 15.34 15+36 5B37 BM205
POOLE S. S. 15+38 15+57 5B58 BM205
POOLE 15+59 16.01 1B58 BM205
WINCHESTER 17.20 17+23 5W51 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 17+25 17+31 5W51 BM205
WINCHESTER 17+33 17.42 2W51 BM205
WAREHAM 19.21 19+30 5W84 BM205
WAREHAM 19+41 19.59 2W74 BM205
WINCHESTER 21.47 21+49 5B69 BM205
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 21+51 21+57 5B69 BM205
WINCHESTER 21+59 22.12 1B69 BM205
POOLE 23.38 23+45 5B70 BM205
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 23+54 BM205
2418
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+10 5B15 BM204
POOLE 05+19 05.30 1B16 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 08.36 09.05 1W23 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 11.29 11+37 5W23 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 11+39 11+49 5W40 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 11+51 11.59 1W40 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 14.36 15.05 1W47 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 17.29 17+37 5W47 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 17+39 17+48 5W64 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 17+50 17.59 1W64 BM204
LONDON WATERLOO 20.36 22.05 1B95 BM204
BOURNEMOUTH 00.34 00.39 1B95 BM204
WEYMOUTH 01.38 BM204
2419
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 04+00 5B14 BM202
BRANKSOME 04+04 04+13 5B14 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 04+44 04.50 2B14 BM202
WINCHESTER 05.10 05+12 5B13 BM202
WINCHESTER 05+22 05+23 5B13 BM202
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 05+36 05.46 1B14 BM202
WINCHESTER 06.08 06+35 5B11 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 06+37 06+47 5B11 BM202
WINCHESTER 06+49 07.12 1B11 BM202
POOLE 08.34 08+36 5B12 BM202
POOLE S. S. 08+38 08+48 5B09 BM202
POOLE 08+50 09.01 1B30 BM202
WINCHESTER 10.20 10+23 5W23 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 10+25 10+31 5W23 BM202
WINCHESTER 10+33 10.42 2W23 BM202
WAREHAM 12.21 12+30 5W23 BM202
WAREHAM 12+41 12.59 2W46 BM202
WINCHESTER 14.47 14+49 5B41 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 14+51 14+57 5B41 BM202
WINCHESTER 14+59 15.12 1B41 BM202
POOLE 16.34 16+36 5B41 BM202
POOLE S. S. 16+38 16+57 5B62 BM202
POOLE 16+59 17.01 1B62 BM202
WINCHESTER 18.20 18+23 5B55 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 18+25 18+31 5B55 BM202
WINCHESTER 18+33 18.42 2B55 BM202
WAREHAM 20.21 20+38 5W78 BM202
WAREHAM 20+49 20.59 2W78 BM202
WINCHESTER 22.47 22+49 5B73 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 22+51 22+57 5B73 BM202
WINCHESTER 22+59 23.12 1B73 BM202
POOLE 00.38 00+46 5B74 BM202
WINCHESTER 01+35 01+36 5B74 BM202
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 01+38 01+47 5B74 BM202
WINCHESTER 01+50 01.53 1B83 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH 02.55 02+57 5Z83 BM202
BRANKSOME 03+01 03+07 5Z83 BM202
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 03+12 BM202
2420
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+10 5B15 BM20
POOLE 05+19 05.30 1B16 BM20
LONDON WATERLOO 08.36 09.05 1W23 BM20
BOURNEMOUTH 11.29 11.34 1W23 BM20
WEYMOUTH 12.38 13.00 1W48 BM20
BOURNEMOUTH 13.54 13.59 1W48 BM20
LONDON WATERLOO 16.36 17.05 1W55 BM20
BOURNEMOUTH 19.30 19.35 1W55 BM20
WEYMOUTH 20.28 21.10 2W80 BM20
BOURNEMOUTH 22.07 22.11 2W80 BM20
WINCHESTER 23.23 23+25 5W67 BM20
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 23+27 23+33 5W67 BM20
WINCHESTER 23+35 23.42 2W67 BM20
WAREHAM 01.28 01+33 5Z68 BM203
WAREHAM 01+44 01+45 5Z68 BM203
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+04 BM203
2422
LONDON WATERLOO 00.05 1B81 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH 02.17 02+19 5B81 BM207
BRANKSOME 02+24 02+33 5B81 BM207
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 02+37 08+19 5W29 BM210
WAREHAM 08+36 08.59 2W30 BM210
WINCHESTER 10.47 10+49 5B25 BM210
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 10+51 10+57 5B25 BM210
WINCHESTER 10+59 11.12 1B25 BM210
POOLE 12.34 12+36 5B25 BM210
POOLE S. S. 12+38 12+48 5B46 BM210
POOLE 12+50 13.01 1B46 BM210
WINCHESTER 14.20 14+23 5W39 BM210
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 14+25 14+31 5W39 BM210
WINCHESTER 14+33 14.42 2W39 BM210
WAREHAM 16.21 16+30 5W39 BM210
WAREHAM 16+41 16.59 2W62 BM210
WINCHESTER 18.47 18+49 5B57 BM210
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 18+51 18+57 5B57 BM210
WINCHESTER 18+59 19.12 1B57 BM210
POOLE 20.34 20+42 5B76 BM210
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+52 BM210
2423
WEYMOUTH 07+40 5W26 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 08+50 08.59 1W28 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 11.36 12.05 1W35 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 14.29 14+37 5W35 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH MIDDLE SDGS 14+39 14+48 5W52 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 14+50 14.59 1W52 BM216
LONDON WATERLOO 17.36 18.05 1W59 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH 20.29 20+37 5B00 BM216
BRANKSOME 20+41 20+50 5B00 BM216
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 20+55 BM216
2424
CLAPHAM YARD 07+45 5W18 BM213
LONDON WATERLOO 07+53 08.05 1W19 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 10.29 10.34 1W19 BM213
WEYMOUTH 11.38 12.00 1W44 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 12.54 12.59 1W44 BM213
LONDON WATERLOO 15.36 16.05 1W51 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH 18.30 18.35 1W51 BM213
WEYMOUTH 19.38 20.06 1W78 BM213
WINCHESTER 22.21 22+23 5W63 BM213
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 22+25 22+31 5W63 BM213
WINCHESTER 22+33 22.42 2W63 BM213
WAREHAM 00.24 00+29 5Z64 BM213
WAREHAM 00+40 00+41 5Z64 BM213
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 01+01
Arkwrights to avoid in the area (I assume these were
booked 444 anyway but include them incase I am wrong !)
444010
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 05+55 5W21 NT301
WAREHAM 06+13 06+14 5W21 NT301
WAREHAM 06+27 06.59 1W22 NT301
WINCHESTER 08.47 08+49 5B17 NT301
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 08+51 08+57 5B17 NT301
WINCHESTER 08+59 09.12 1B17 NT301
POOLE 10.34 10+35 5B17 NT301
POOLE S. S. 10+37 10+48 5B38 NT301
POOLE 10+50 11.01 1B38 NT301
WINCHESTER 12.20 12+23 5W31 NT301
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 12+25 12+31 5W31 NT301
WINCHESTER 12+33 12.42 2W31 NT301
WAREHAM 14.21 14+30 5W31 NT301
WAREHAM 14+41 14.59 2W54 NT301
WINCHESTER 16.47 16+49 5B49 NT301
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 16+51 16+57 5B49 NT301
WINCHESTER 16+59 17.12 1B49 NT301
POOLE 18.34 18+36 5B49 NT301
POOLE S. S. 18+38 18+48 5B70 NT301
POOLE 18+50 19.01 1B70 NT301
WINCHESTER 20.20 20+23 5W55 NT301
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 20+25 20+31 5W55 NT301
WINCHESTER 20+33 20.42 2W55 NT301
WAREHAM 22.21 22+27 5W55 NT301
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 22+45 NT301
444013
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 01+23 5B77 NT328
SOUTHAMPTON UP YARD 01+28 01+38 5B77 NT328
NORTHAM SIG. E842 01+41 01+50 5B77 NT328
NORTHAM C.S.D. 01+56 05+50 5W06 NT317
NORTHAM SIG. E842 05+56 06+05 5W06 NT317
NORTHAM DEPOT RECEPT LINE 06+07 06+14 5W06 NT317
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 06+18 06.25 2W07 NT317
WAREHAM 07.42 07.59 2W26 NT317
WINCHESTER 09.47 09+49 5B21 NT317
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 09+51 09+57 5B21 NT317
WINCHESTER 09+59 10.12 1B21 NT317
POOLE 11.34 11+36 5B21 NT317
POOLE S. S. 11+38 11+48 5B42 NT317
POOLE 11+50 12.01 1B42 NT317
WINCHESTER 13.20 13+23 5W35 NT317
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 13+25 13+31 5W35 NT317
WINCHESTER 13+33 13.42 2W35 NT317
WAREHAM 15.21 15+30 5W35 NT317
WAREHAM 15+41 15.59 2W58 NT317
WINCHESTER 17.47 17+49 5B53 NT317
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 17+51 17+57 5B53 NT317
WINCHESTER 17+59 18.12 1B53 NT317
POOLE 19.38 19+40 5B53 NT317
POOLE S. S. 19+42 19+48 5B74 NT317
POOLE 19+50 20.00 1B74 NT317
WINCHESTER 21.20 21+23 5W59 NT317
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 21+25 21+31 5W59 NT317
WINCHESTER 21+33 21.42 2W59 NT317
WAREHAM 23.21 23+23 5Z60 NT317
WAREHAM 23+34 23+35 5Z60 NT317
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 23+58 NT317
444022
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 06+40 5B21 NT302
POOLE 06+49 07.01 1B22 NT302
WINCHESTER 08.20 08+23 5W15 NT302
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 08+25 08+31 5W15 NT302
WINCHESTER 08+33 08.42 2W15 NT302
WAREHAM 10.21 10+30 5W38 NT302
WAREHAM 10+41 10.59 2W38 NT302
WINCHESTER 12.47 12+49 5B33 NT302
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 12+51 12+57 5B33 NT302
WINCHESTER 12+59 13.12 1B33 NT302
POOLE 14.34 14+36 5B33 NT302
POOLE S. S. 14+38 14+48 5B54 NT302
POOLE 14+50 15.01 1B54 NT302
WINCHESTER 16.20 16+23 5W47 NT302
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 16+25 16+31 5W47 NT302
WINCHESTER 16+33 16.42 2W47 NT302
WAREHAM 18.21 18+30 5W47 NT302
WAREHAM 18+41 18.59 2W70 NT302
WINCHESTER 20.47 20+49 5B65 NT302
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 20+51 20+57 5B65 NT302
WINCHESTER 20+59 21.12 1B65 NT302
POOLE 22.38 22+42 5B66 NT302
BOURNEMOUTH T&R.S.M.D 22+51 NT302
444035
NORTHAM C.S.D. 06+45 5W11 NT318
NORTHAM SIG. E842 06+51 06+57 5W11 NT318
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 07+20 07+28 5W11 NT318
WINCHESTER 07+30 07.42 2W11 NT318
WAREHAM 09.22 09.59 2W34 NT318
WINCHESTER 11.47 11+49 5B29 NT318
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 11+51 11+57 5B29 NT318
WINCHESTER 11+59 12.12 1B29 NT318
POOLE 13.34 13+36 5B29 NT318
POOLE S. S. 13+38 13+48 5B50 NT318
POOLE 13+50 14.01 1B50 NT318
WINCHESTER 15.20 15+23 5W43 NT318
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 15+25 15+31 5W43 NT318
WINCHESTER 15+33 15.42 2W43 NT318
WAREHAM 17.21 17+30 5W43 NT318
WAREHAM 17+41 17.59 2W66 NT318
WINCHESTER 19.47 19+49 5B61 NT318
WINCHESTER BALTIC SIDING 19+51 19+57 5B61 NT318
WINCHESTER 19+59 20.12 1B61 NT318
POOLE 21.38 21+44 5B67 NT318
SOUTHAMPTON CENTRAL 22+27 22+27 5B67 NT318
SOUTHAMPTON UP YARD 22+31 22+37 5B67 NT318
NORTHAM SIG. E842 22+40 22+49 5B67 NT318
NORTHAM C.S.D. 22+56 NT318
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Post by antharro on Dec 9, 2006 23:59:19 GMT
I had a very short but illuminating conversation earlier with a member of staff at Bournemouth who I get on well with. He told me that it's fairly confirmed that _some_ 442s are going off to Southern, but that even if they all were, apparently they should be refurbed as it's part of the contract.
Seems a bit counterproductive to have to refurb a fleet of trains in SWT livery when there's a chance they're gonna be done again in a completely different livery... assuming, that is, that Southern are going to put them in white/green...
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