1938 Stock Railtours Summer 2024

I am happy to say that the event for Sunday 9th June is now sold out (happy because by being 'sold out' helps justify staging the event).

People wishing to see the train during the day may be pleased to note that the LTM webpage includes the journey times, although there is always a possibility of early or late running as per the demands of the day.

I speak from personal experience, for instance arriving at a station platform 10 minutes before its expected time - only to see the rear car leaving the station and disappearing into the darkness of the tunnel.

Yes, I understand about this rule. This explains why I did not quote the LTM timings here and 7.1b exactly explains why I added my own personal experience.

However this train making these journeys is somewhat different to (for instance) the weed killing train's travels around the network. This is partly because the 1938ts train will be carrying passengers and largely because the London Transport Museum put some of its expected timings into the public domain. I suspect that the LTM actively want the kind of public awareness that rule 7.1 is designed to prevent. Especially at the location(s) where they will be running a 'pop-up' retail shop.

Regarding the (over)crowding issue, from experience during other similar events many people coming to see the train is highly likely at the start and end points (some - but by no means all - of these being the passengers on the train), whilst moderate numbers of people wanting to see the train also attend the other stations that it passes through. Typically this will include some station staff who themselves are keen to see it - and help ensure that all goes well whilst the train passes through 'their' station.

The numbers of people involved are usually far smaller than those who attended the 'Steam On The Met' services for events such as LU150, Steam On The District, etc.,  when the platforms became really crowded with people wanting to see the train.

Cancelled as apparently it's been vandalised/graffitied

Well they couldnt take it out today due to the 38 stock train being vandalised......these vandals should be made to put right what they destroyed or named and shamed its a real pity that this happens maybe in the future put the train somewhere secure before hand with a guard so it doesnt get damaged by people who dont care...

Surprised they can still schedule trips during the Picc Line Upgrade, and so close to arrival of the first new train.

It might, depending on the time and un-budgeted cost of fixing the damage. Not knowing the extent of damage I hope this incident doesn’t impact on the other planned dates this summer.

While I don't know any details I would be surprised. It is more likely to be a crime of opportunity

More likely that the perpetrator wanted to get some 'standing' in the graffiti community - there is reportedly a degree of status that comes from attacking unusual rolling stock. I recall similar notoriety was to be had for the first person who attacked an S stock over a decade ago.

Is it not already?

from Bloomsbury Law. The Sentencing Council also details the range of available sentences.

Admin note: Members are reminded of the forum's rules relating to discussion of graffiti. This is another reason why we do not encourage the posting of unusual stock moves which are not advertised by London Underground.

Rightly so.

I'm hoping the Heathrow Loop trip takes place.
It's my recollection that this famous stock was deliberately kept out of Heathrow when the extension first opened.

1938 Stock were withdrawn from the Piccadilly before the Heathrow Central extension was opened, they did run to Hatton Cross.

Did the 38s ever run on the Jubilee or were they confined to the Bakerloo after the split?

In the first week of the Jubilee opening there was a major disruption on the Bakerloo,half the 38TS stabled at Neasden overnight.