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Post by sawb on May 15, 2022 18:49:50 GMT
Which changes, both in terms of infrastructure and timetabling, were introduced in January are being removed and which are staying?
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Post by londonboy on May 15, 2022 19:13:41 GMT
Which changes, both in terms of infrastructure and timetabling, were introduced in January are being removed and which are staying? Goes back to the pre shutdown Timetable WTT 58 WTT 59 starts from 27th June with the reintroduced night tube and enhanced service to Battersea |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 15, 2022 20:41:11 GMT
The new Bank Platform is now open to passenger service Trains are now in Passenger service from Morden to Moorgate Via Bank That's northbound. Is the new (southbound) platform also in service yet? |
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Post by bicbasher on May 15, 2022 22:23:10 GMT
The new Bank Platform is now open to passenger service Trains are now in Passenger service from Morden to Moorgate Via Bank That's northbound. Is the new (southbound) platform also in service yet? The Bank branch partially reopened this afternoon by extending the Stockwell to Morden shuttles to Moorgate. It fully reopens tomorrow. |
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Post by londonboy on May 15, 2022 22:46:18 GMT
That's northbound. Is the new (southbound) platform also in service yet? The Bank branch partially reopened this afternoon by extending the Stockwell to Morden shuttles to Moorgate. It fully reopens tomorrow. Yes it's open in both directions lol |
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Post by xtmw on May 16, 2022 7:51:36 GMT
I've noticed the platform indicators are different.
They say:
1st Morden
Calling at: London Bridge, Morden & Morden.
2nd Morden
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Post by t697 on May 16, 2022 10:12:13 GMT
I've noticed the platform indicators are different. They say: 1st Morden Calling at: London Bridge, Morden & Morden. 2nd Morden A bit of tuning still needed it seems. Was a bit odd on Saturday testing too. Info passed on to team. Edit: They are aware, don't know when the fix comes. |
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Post by Chris L on May 16, 2022 10:42:20 GMT
I've noticed the platform indicators are different. They say: 1st Morden Calling at: London Bridge, Morden & Morden. 2nd Morden A bit of tuning still needed it seems. Was a bit odd on Saturday testing too. Info passed on to team. Edit: They are aware, don't know when the fix comes. The sign is way too small. There are national standards for minimum letter height. This sign does not meet them. Why still amber/black? White letter systems are available. |
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Post by spsmiler on May 16, 2022 11:35:38 GMT
I wish I had known that it was opening Sunday afternoon, I would have gone - I could have filmed without other passengers getting in the way! OK I might have met a few celebrities, but I'm easy with that. This twitter film is a visual delight... twitter.com/MrTimDunn/ status/1526084032764706816 |
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Post by spsmiler on May 16, 2022 11:44:29 GMT
These are by someone who went early this morning - I think it was on his way to work twitter.com/SimonZev/ status/1526117594121519109 This I would classify as a 'fun' view, I have filmed something like this myself too, albeit at a station on the Tyne & Wear Metro. I'm not keen on so much blue - it can leave people 'feeling blue' and this shade of the colour is best confined to the Piccadilly line. I much prefer the vitreous panel white. edit to add: I did not realise that there would be two tweets, the first being a montage of still images. My text about the fun view refers to the second tweet. twitter.com/SimonZev/ status/1526115517299363841 |
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Post by t697 on May 16, 2022 15:29:43 GMT
I've noticed the platform indicators are different. They say: 1st Morden Calling at: London Bridge, Morden & Morden. 2nd Morden A reliable source tells me this is now fixed and they show what they are supposed to. And it's being monitored...!
And on the subject of the indicators being small, there is a second one further along, probably hidden by another sign until you go towards it. They do look a bit small in the relatively huge new platform area.
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Post by Chris L on May 16, 2022 17:14:07 GMT
I've noticed the platform indicators are different. They say: 1st Morden Calling at: London Bridge, Morden & Morden. 2nd Morden A reliable source tells me this is now fixed and they show what they are supposed to. And it's being monitored...!
And on the subject of the indicators being small, there is a second one further along, probably hidden by another sign until you go towards it. They do look a bit small in the relatively huge new platform area.
I saw them both this afternoon. They do not meet the appropriate letter height to be compliant. The lettering size on the bigger display on the northbound platform has been reduced. Unhelpful. All signage needs to be clear and with lettering taking into account the viewing distance. There is an Underground signs manual which is a Category 1 standard. |
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Post by xtmw on May 16, 2022 19:24:12 GMT
These are by someone who went early this morning - I think it was on his way to work twitter.com/SimonZev/ status/1526117594121519109 This I would classify as a 'fun' view, I have filmed something like this myself too, albeit at a station on the Tyne & Wear Metro. I'm not keen on so much blue - it can leave people 'feeling blue' and this shade of the colour is best confined to the Piccadilly line. I much prefer the vitreous panel white. edit to add: I did not realise that there would be two tweets, the first being a montage of still images. My text about the fun view refers to the second tweet. twitter.com/SimonZev/ status/1526115517299363841 The roar of the tracks is something new... The first time I heard it was on the NLE and now, the southbound Northern Line at Bank. Must be something useful... |
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Post by spsmiler on May 16, 2022 19:43:20 GMT
I'm excited by a moving walkway link to the Central line, but does that mean the writing is on the wall for the existing spiral staircases and passageway? It would be a shame to lose these historic features of this station.
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Post by rsdworker on May 16, 2022 20:42:06 GMT
I'm excited by a moving walkway link to the Central line, but does that mean the writing is on the wall for the existing spiral staircases and passageway? It would be a shame to lose these historic features of this station. those staircases will remain - just extra access from central line - however i think they should installed lift in one of staircases but this would be future |
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Post by spsmiler on May 16, 2022 21:27:22 GMT
I'm excited by a moving walkway link to the Central line, but does that mean the writing is on the wall for the existing spiral staircases and passageway? It would be a shame to lose these historic features of this station. those staircases will remain - just extra access from central line - however i think they should installed lift in one of staircases but this would be future Thanks One of the staircases is 'very old' and the other one 'only a few decades old', perhaps from the 1960s or 1970s. Bank station does already have some lifts, especially for the Northern line. I dont know if the lift shafts for the old Central line part of the station could be reused. |
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Post by wbk727 on May 16, 2022 21:55:35 GMT
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Post by ijmad on May 17, 2022 20:21:58 GMT
I'm excited by a moving walkway link to the Central line, but does that mean the writing is on the wall for the existing spiral staircases and passageway? It would be a shame to lose these historic features of this station. those staircases will remain - just extra access from central line - however i think they should installed lift in one of staircases but this would be future Given there is a second flight of steps on that route between Central and Northern I don't think a lift there would be all that helpful. |
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Post by jimbo on May 17, 2022 20:34:08 GMT
Has the system map been renewed for Bank reopening, or will that await Crossrail opening?
[Edit later] Online TfL map has not been updated for Bank reopening at present!
[Edit early 20 May] Online TfL tube map now has reopened Bank branch, but still with alternative Network Rail services shown, and no central area Elizabeth Line shown.
[Edit early 22 May] Online TfL tube map now has complete Elizabeth Line, Barking Riverside Extension, and still alternative Network Rail services for Bank closure!
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Post by spsmiler on May 17, 2022 23:43:35 GMT
I went to Bank today to see the new stuff A few pics are attached in my tweet - which is not 100% in favour of what they have done. I wonder, did they go for blue colour relief because its the present-day standard? or because its cheaper than the granite effect already there? I am not adverse to stations having different colour schemes in different areas, based upon when they were built / refurbished, but where new meets 'only slightly less new' the royal blue and granite grey clash. As this is the Northern line Black would have been more suitable. twitter.com/citytransportin/ status/1526689311101427712 |
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Post by Chris M on May 18, 2022 0:55:28 GMT
I had a quick look when I passed through this evening, and the blue works better in person than I was expecting based on the photos.
The blue and white is the present standard "design idiom", whether it being cheaper (if it is) than alternatives is a reason for it being the standard I don't know.
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Post by rsdworker on May 18, 2022 6:48:57 GMT
those staircases will remain - just extra access from central line - however i think they should installed lift in one of staircases but this would be future Thanks One of the staircases is 'very old' and the other one 'only a few decades old', perhaps from the 1960s or 1970s. Bank station does already have some lifts, especially for the Northern line. I dont know if the lift shafts for the old Central line part of the station could be reused. There is existing lifts (one that is top of stairs to northern line) - not sure where central line orignal lifts was - wiki didnt note the location however i am hopefully the step free would be opened soon - i thought existing lift from DLR to northern line ticket hall lifts was connected as i saw on plans |
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Post by Chris L on May 18, 2022 9:06:46 GMT
Thanks One of the staircases is 'very old' and the other one 'only a few decades old', perhaps from the 1960s or 1970s. Bank station does already have some lifts, especially for the Northern line. I dont know if the lift shafts for the old Central line part of the station could be reused. There is existing lifts (one that is top of stairs to northern line) - not sure where central line orignal lifts was - wiki didnt note the location however i am hopefully the step free would be opened soon - i thought existing lift from DLR to northern line ticket hall lifts was connected as i saw on plans The existing Northern line lifts don't descend to platform level. |
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Post by ijmad on May 18, 2022 10:07:12 GMT
www.london.gov.uk/questions/2020/0652You can see in this Mayor's question time answer, step free access to the Central Line at Bank is not included in the current upgrade programme. TfL's view seems to be that while there are some options for providing lifts, the curvature and resulting gap on the Central Line platforms would make lifts pretty useless for wheelchair users. Anyone who can step across the gap can likely be able to use an escalator and the current programme will provide a route to the Central Line that is lift & escalator only (no stair climbing) via the Cannon Street entrance.
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Post by Chris M on May 18, 2022 10:55:53 GMT
There is existing lifts (one that is top of stairs to northern line) - not sure where central line orignal lifts was - wiki didnt note the location however i am hopefully the step free would be opened soon - i thought existing lift from DLR to northern line ticket hall lifts was connected as i saw on plans There is an existing small lift from the street to the Northern line ticket hall*. From the Northern line ticket hall there is a bank of 4(?) large lifts that take you down to the top of the stairs to the northern line. From here there is another small lift that takes you down to the DLR platforms (although it was out of order when I passed that way last week). Step free access to the Northern platforms is coming as part of this project, but I can't remember if it will connect to this area or whether it will be entirely new. Annoyingly there is only one short escalator between this level and the corridor to the Waterloo and City line, which now has lift access to the Walbrook entrance and I don't think there are plans to add a lift here (Waterloo will be accessible step-free by changing at London Bridge, although this is a long journey via the street and most other journeys can be achieved using a step-free interchange elsewhere) *This lift is only open when that ticket hall is, although this is not widely advertised and there is no way of knowing whether it's open or not when you are at street level. At platform level, you can use the help point or speak to a member of staff and they will escort you. |
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Post by Chris L on May 18, 2022 11:21:30 GMT
There is existing lifts (one that is top of stairs to northern line) - not sure where central line orignal lifts was - wiki didnt note the location however i am hopefully the step free would be opened soon - i thought existing lift from DLR to northern line ticket hall lifts was connected as i saw on plans There is an existing small lift from the street to the Northern line ticket hall*. From the Northern line ticket hall there is a bank of 4(?) large lifts that take you down to the top of the stairs to the northern line. From here there is another small lift that takes you down to the DLR platforms (although it was out of order when I passed that way last week). Step free access to the Northern platforms is coming as part of this project, but I can't remember if it will connect to this area or whether it will be entirely new. Annoyingly there is only one short escalator between this level and the corridor to the Waterloo and City line, which now has lift access to the Walbrook entrance and I don't think there are plans to add a lift here (Waterloo will be accessible step-free by changing at London Bridge, although this is a long journey via the street and most other journeys can be achieved using a step-free interchange elsewhere) *This lift is only open when that ticket hall is, although this is not widely advertised and there is no way of knowing whether it's open or not when you are at street level. At platform level, you can use the help point or speak to a member of staff and they will escort you. As I understand it the lift access to the Northern line will be from the new Cannon Street entrance. |
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Post by ijmad on May 18, 2022 14:07:38 GMT
You can get to the Northern Line ticket hall's lifts step free via the Walbrook entrance, by following the travelators or walking the adjacent passage.
It's just pretty indirect and I'd imagine some wheelchair users might have problems with the slope if they can't use the travelator.
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Post by Chris L on May 18, 2022 18:03:15 GMT
You can get to the Northern Line ticket hall's lifts step free via the Walbrook entrance, by following the travelators or walking the adjacent passage. It's just pretty indirect and I'd imagine some wheelchair users might have problems with the slope if they can't use the travelator. The slope has steps. |
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Post by ijmad on May 18, 2022 20:57:26 GMT
You can get to the Northern Line ticket hall's lifts step free via the Walbrook entrance, by following the travelators or walking the adjacent passage. It's just pretty indirect and I'd imagine some wheelchair users might have problems with the slope if they can't use the travelator. The slope has steps. I'd never noticed! Fair enough. Well anyway the new lifts will be a far better experience all round. |
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Post by rsdworker on May 19, 2022 15:00:07 GMT
i was asking about existing DLR lift that was already place - however plans show this lift would been connected to northern line but might been changed? cause plans show there is corrdior to existing lift that connects with DLR and Main lifts
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