Heritage / or special trains in the future

Currently, Heritage trains would only be permitted to operate on the section between Harrow on the Hill and Amersham via the fast lines, as these will retain train stops and colour-light signals for the benefit of Chiltern services.
From what I understand, there is currently no plan to fit heritage trains with the new signalling equipment as it would cost around £1m each.
The current plan is to run heritage trains with a battery loco at each end, but this does add extra complications

How do they get there? Such a short distance and in the way of the normal service.

Another option would be to run trips when the line is closed to normal trains. Obviously this would come with it's own set of organisational and logistical issues and would also incur costs (probably very significant ones), but file it under "extremely unlikely" rather than "impossible".

I'm also wondering about the Q stock and Standard stock heritage trains. I suppose that funding is the issue.

Don’t want to wander off the topic (I started!), but ‘heritage’ is one part of the glue which holds the network together. Examples: the District 150 events and small exhibits, which seemed to go on for 2 maybe three years, the team pride in individual station exhibits, the gardens, the historic posters and photographs some (of you?) staff put up all over the network. LT / LUL has always had a team spirit which makes the place special. Just last Tuesday I almost stumbled over one such creation: A potted history of the D-Stock alongside A Potted history of the S-Stock, all growing quite nicely at Hammersmith District. Maybe someone on here had their trowel in that.

Correct me if I`m wrong, but from the above replies and elsewhere on the board: Bakerloo will remain electro-pneumatically signaled for at least another 10 years, the Piccadilly, western outer reaches of the District, Met mainline north of Harrow and from there to Rayner’s Lane and beyond at least for the next five. That gives us a fair chunk of rail.

Did someone mention that some battery locos have been CBTC equipped and could be used to ‘pilot’ the 1938 train where required? More possibilities? But why? See perhaps below:

Fantasy section: So, given that lot, is it totally beyond imagination to run an annual Red-Nose-Rover where the deficit between running cost and receipts could be crowd-funded (if TfL or GLA cannot) and where at at every terminus: Uxbridge, Cockfosters, Richmond, Ealing, maybe a Terminal road at Baker Street, ticket holders would bail-out with collecting cans for Red-Nose-day. After all what has a ruddier nose than the 1938 stock?

PS. Does Bakerloo 1972 stock ever leave the line for overhaul work at Neasden / elsewhere? What is it's standard route to get to the rest of the network? An answer thereto might present another route for the above special. Thanks.

I went on the morning run of the Battery Rover railtour on 02/10/1988 which is described here:
www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/80s/881002lr.htm

This ran in normal traffic hours with two battery locos topping and tailing a rake of Gatwick Express Mk2 coaches so I'm guessing that line speed wasn't a problem.

As for the Kings Cross Loop between the Northern and Piccadilly, I did it on a railtour in the late 70s and I'm sure that other tours have done it much more recently.

I've included details of the Nostalgia specials run by the New York Transit museum, which may be of interest, here:
districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/32179/heritage-special-new-york

Are battery locos under CBTC still manually driven, or do they press two start buttons?

In which case a portable adaptor pack can be devised to give the driver the information necessary to drive manually.
It's been done elsewhere, it isn't new.

Yes, the same negative arguments were applied...

Seems like there's more down sides to automatic control than benefits. all this for what, an additional 2tph in places? and a total loss of flexibility.

There is no funding for new Bakerloo signaling, but transfers to and from the line are not easy, and often done by road. The Picc also has no funding for new signals, so it might appear simple to shuttle along the whole line from Acton Museum. However, plenty of engineering closures will be needed for Met line resignalling on Uxbridge branch, and on whole Picc line for adaption for new longer trains. The new trains will feature cab TV for platform monitoring, which needs setting up. Many signals will need resighting and resiting. When the new trains finally arrive in about four years time, then maybe a start can be made on new signalling installation. So the upgrade will need lots of engineering closures which may prevent the 38TS from doing tours for some years.

Correct. They were listed in the 2011 Bombardier contract that collapsed, but not in the current Thales contract. There were six heritage trains to be equipped - which? 38TS, Q stock, how define a train? i.e. Sarah Siddons one cab with Met No.1 as a train?