gantshill
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Post by gantshill on May 15, 2020 22:07:03 GMT
I have been reminded elsewhere that nine years ago today (15 May), there was the opportunity to ride a Victoria line train to Uxbridge. There were a number of us District Dave types on that enjoyable and memorable trip. It was well documented at the time, and there are a number of videos and pictures linked on this thread (starting at page 12) districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/16083/last-67-stock-run-on?page=12
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cso
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Post by cso on May 15, 2020 22:45:24 GMT
I can not believe it was 9 years ago!
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 16, 2020 7:58:50 GMT
(R Stock Farewell Tour, 37 years ago 15 May 1983 !)
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Post by superteacher on May 16, 2020 9:20:26 GMT
(R Stock Farewell Tour, 37 years ago 15 May 1983 !) Did you drive R stocks?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 16, 2020 10:01:59 GMT
(R Stock Farewell Tour, 37 years ago 15 May 1983 !) Did you drive R stocks? Yes, CO/CPs too
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Post by seaeagle on May 16, 2020 13:12:32 GMT
I can not believe it was 9 years ago! OMG I'm getting old, remember driving 3007 that day, last time I ever drove that unit. Also remember selling car numberplates to various members of this forum at Uxbridge that day
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Post by John Tuthill on May 16, 2020 16:43:56 GMT
Those and the 38s were the apex of LU design. In my opinion, everything went down hill after these two magesties of design.
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cso
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Post by cso on May 16, 2020 16:48:34 GMT
(R Stock Farewell Tour, 37 years ago 15 May 1983 !) I wasn’t even born then 😂
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Post by jimbo on May 16, 2020 20:47:30 GMT
I can not believe it was 9 years ago! OMG I'm getting old, remember driving 3007 that day, last time I ever drove that unit. Also remember selling car numberplates to various members of this forum at Uxbridge that day What was it like to drive so far in manual? From what I recall, they were intended for auto operation by pressing two buttons to start. The innovational combined master brake/controller design did not incorporate a deadman function, but had to keep a button depressed. Also the handle had an unnatural lift to turn movement. All acceptable for shunting or emergency movement. But a day tour?
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Post by Tom on May 17, 2020 14:12:51 GMT
I think Test Train Operators did most, if not all(?) of the 'Off line' driving - I certainly remember asking a favour of one of them to take it slowly through Sudbury Town, where I'd left the tour to get a couple of lineside shots.
One of the less than friendly supervisors was on duty at Ealing Broadway later that day, and was about to throw all the waiting enthusiasts off the station when the tour train arrived - I seem to remember the Victoria Line General Manager overruling him in that respect!
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Post by jimbo on May 17, 2020 16:41:24 GMT
Back at the time Northumberland Park depot housed a full fleet of trains, with the Vic line only partly open, there was also a shortage of 1938TS due to Acton Works restricting compressor overhauls. A proposal was considered to release the 1938TS from the Northern City Line and cover it temporarily with spare 1967TS, which could transfer through the former tunnel connection from Finsbury Park. One of the problems with this proposal was the requirement to drive the new trains manually with their unsuitable traction/brake controller. It was decided that this would have to be replaced with the C-stock design, but unfortunately costs and delays eventually led to the proposal being abandoned. Details were long ago in Underground News from files rescued from Acton Works.
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Post by tubelightonline on May 20, 2020 5:28:54 GMT
Gosh - was it really nine years ago that the tour occurred; I still had a good head of hair at the time! I remember the strong smell of burning from the brakes as we travelled in ATO towards Finsbury Park, just before swapping to manual driving at the crossover, near the beginning of the tour, and of course, the brief loss of lighting at the northound crossover towards the end of the day! Other memories that remain strong to me were the train only just fitting the platforms at Acton Town or Ealing Broadway, and of course, the friendliness of everyone, particularly those in Car 6! Spookily, I discovered recently that 3161, the DM whose destination blind now lives here, was part of the train that formed the 'Auto Tube Rambler' railtour in 1979, which also called at Ealing Broadway, as proven here. Here's a similar view from the 2011 tour - I'm fairly certain that I'm visible on the extreme-left of this image, with regulation Victoria line-coloured shirt...clearly, it was all meant to be!
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roythebus
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Post by roythebus on May 22, 2020 22:08:05 GMT
Presumably the stock had to have an official second man in the cab as there was no trip cock fitted.
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Post by seaeagle on May 24, 2020 18:10:05 GMT
Presumably the stock had to have an official second man in the cab as there was no trip cock fitted. Tripcock was fitted and operational from Finsbury Park onwards. Anyone who was in the leading coach of the tour would have the seats just behind the cab door being lifted and the tripcock being set while in Finsbury Park platform
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Post by Chris W on Jun 7, 2020 16:56:18 GMT
Presumably the stock had to have an official second man in the cab as there was no trip cock fitted. Tripcock was fitted and operational from Finsbury Park onwards. Anyone who was in the leading coach of the tour would have the seats just behind the cab door being lifted and the tripcock being set while in Finsbury Park platform My wife and I were sat over the seat where the tripcock was located...
Images of the tripcock being set can be found in my images of the day HERE
My images start at Uxbridge, Acton Town, Ealing Broadway and continue during the trip captured from the front cab....
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Post by spsmiler on Jun 8, 2020 19:04:01 GMT
I recall both 1967 tube stock and R stock tours.
For the R stock I only travelled on the tour train between Earls Court and Olympia. This train replaced the shuttle on a return journey so was opened to normal passengers too. What I was not expecting and would be astonished of ever it was repeated is that people were allowed to cross the live tracks to photograph the train from the other side (next to the fence). Its a shame that I only took one photo and my camera slightly over-exposed it.
For the 1967ts I was yet to buy an HD camcorder and I filmed the train (from platforms, etc). Alas, when I returned home and watched my films I found that some of my footage had been affected by a spot of dust in the very centre of the image. Something that was not seen on the fold-out screen.
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Post by jimbo on Jun 30, 2020 19:33:40 GMT
OMG I'm getting old, remember driving 3007 that day, last time I ever drove that unit. Also remember selling car numberplates to various members of this forum at Uxbridge that day What was it like to drive so far in manual? From what I recall, they were intended for auto operation by pressing two buttons to start. The innovational combined master brake/controller design did not incorporate a deadman function, but had to keep a button depressed. Also the handle had an unnatural lift to turn movement. All acceptable for shunting or emergency movement. But a day tour? The unique two handed driving of 1967 tube stock, with the vigilance button permanently depressed to prevent an emergency Westinghouse brake application whilst the controller is lifted and turned against a return spring: www.flickr.com/photos/cjw2/5725933253/in/album-72157626733643334/
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