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Post by PiccNT on Oct 25, 2024 15:37:55 GMT
TTO's start their 24 stock simulator training in the next couple of weeks. Currently located in Ilford.
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Post by jimbo on Oct 25, 2024 23:50:54 GMT
Will be interesting how testing and performance of the couplings & stabilisation/dampers of the 24 stock goes - I wouldn't mind betting any future design has at least 1 bogie per car. I suppose we are all suspicious of such a radical new design, which has not even completed one trip through 'the pipe' before fleet production has commenced in Goole. However, Siemens have long experience producing such vehicles for other countries, have full trust in their computer modelling, and have a year of trial running on their test track. They have had plenty of time to hold back on volume production if difficulties arose. After all, they are risking their money if it doesn't work out. Also, LU learnt a lot from the Bombardier SSR resignalling debacle to keep a closer watch on their contractors. And more recently with the new DLR train experience, to keep their attention on their major contracts. Even so, I am sure we are all keenly looking forward to how they work in practice providing an intense service week after week. |
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Post by melikepie on Oct 26, 2024 14:15:40 GMT
How safe are carriages without wheels?
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Post by t697 on Oct 26, 2024 14:48:02 GMT
How would you want that measured or quantified?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 26, 2024 15:49:30 GMT
How safe are carriages without wheels? There have been exactly zero fatalities in such carriages on LU. The design of the train has been approved as safe by all relevant bodies. Trams with sections with no wheels have run safely in this and other countries for several decades. I'm not aware of any evidence that the design is any more or less safe than a conventional design. |
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Post by gefw on Oct 26, 2024 16:11:59 GMT
How would you want that measured or quantified? There are standard failure mode and effects analysis processes which may well have already been done as part of design reviews and will be needed for approval to enter service. This will cover things like the deterioration/failure of critical items such as the couplings and stabilisation mechanisms + document necessary control measures such as secondary protection and/or routine inspection. Fortunately over the years unexpected deterioration such as cracks/metal fatigue has been contained in such a manner. |
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Post by jimbo on Nov 2, 2024 4:15:06 GMT
Questions about the New Tube for London/Siemens Inspiro/London Underground 2024 Stock for the Piccadilly line - Request ID: FOI-2143-2425 - Date published: 31 October 2024So, the concept design didn't meet corporate design standards! The current train shows Piccadilly Line identity, so presumably a further build for the Bakerloo Line will feature brown shades of moquette, handrails, etc. |
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Post by brigham on Nov 2, 2024 8:30:54 GMT
And rightly so.
The whole idea is to give regular passengers a subliminal 'feel' of being on the right train.
It goes right back to the Yerkes-era tiling scheme.
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Post by ijmad on Nov 2, 2024 15:05:12 GMT
Personally I am a big fan of the interior design language on the New Routemaster (although the busses themselves, eh!), which seemed to have inspired the 2014 look, so I'm a bit disappointed they didn't stick with it! However at the end of the day having useful colours for accessibility and line identification is much more important than making it look 'cool'.
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Post by spsmiler on Nov 2, 2024 18:23:46 GMT
The Bakerloo already has a brown seat fabric colour palette - I wonder if it will be used 'as-is'?
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Post by jimbo on Nov 2, 2024 20:49:54 GMT
The new Picc seat design is said to be based on Holden station designs along the line, so wouldn't really be suitable in a brown tone.
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Post by jimbo on Nov 2, 2024 21:39:15 GMT
Questions about the New Tube for London/Siemens Inspiro/London Underground 2024 Stock for the Piccadilly line - Request ID: FOI-2143-2425 - Date published: 31 October 2024So, the concept design didn't meet corporate design standards! The current train shows Piccadilly Line identity, so presumably a further build for the Bakerloo Line will feature brown shades of moquette, handrails, etc. So, following "corporate design standards, branding and accessibility requirements", why don't S8 show Met. Line identity? S7 work three lines, and the seats reflect all four SSR line colours. |
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Post by Alight on Nov 5, 2024 23:14:21 GMT
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Post by grumpycat on Nov 5, 2024 23:16:49 GMT
Sounds extremely jamky. Surprised they haven't reused Julie Berry for the picc |
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Post by jimbo on Nov 6, 2024 1:02:34 GMT
"From Cockfosters to Heathrow Airport, Elloise will provide information and reassurance to passengers." And on the Uxbridge branch?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Nov 6, 2024 12:38:01 GMT
Sounds extremely jamky. Surprised they haven't reused Julie Berry for the picc Agreed. The Julie Berry ones are very good. |
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Post by t697 on Nov 6, 2024 17:31:31 GMT
What does "jamky" mean anyway?
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Post by melikepie on Nov 6, 2024 20:15:34 GMT
Jamky is a postdigital drum machine that uses a wooden grid and stones to create beats
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Post by ted672 on Nov 7, 2024 10:35:09 GMT
Jamky is a postdigital drum machine that uses a wooden grid and stones to create beats Interesting video of said machine here:
I think the word intended, with reference to the PA announcements, was "janky" - adjective informal•North American. adjective: janky; comparative adjective: jankier; superlative adjective: jankiest; adjective: jank.
meaning of extremely poor or unreliable quality. "the software is pretty janky", which sums up much about TfL's software from my experience!
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