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Post by coldplayfan18 on Aug 22, 2021 20:51:18 GMT
Latest financial problems means CLIP has been slowed and will take longer to complete whole fleet. Okay. Do you have any idea when the first new train will be out in service. Or if there will be any photos on here in the meantime of what the refurbished trains will look like? |
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Post by bigvern on Aug 22, 2021 22:29:40 GMT
With a project of this scale the times to complete the first couple of trains will generally be a bit longer than the projected 40 day beat rate for full production, as always there are processes to be done and in what order would meet the optimal output rate, I would expect from experience to estimate the first train to take about 3-4 months to complete, maybe a little longer if there is still some scope creep in the project.
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Aug 23, 2021 9:17:45 GMT
With a project of this scale the times to complete the first couple of trains will generally be a bit longer than the projected 40 day beat rate for full production, as always there are processes to be done and in what order would meet the optimal output rate, I would expect from experience to estimate the first train to take about 3-4 months to complete, maybe a little longer if there is still some scope creep in the project. Okay so still a little while then. It’s good that the project is restarting though. Been looking forward to seeing the refurbished trains. |
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Post by wanstead on Aug 30, 2021 12:42:55 GMT
I know this is probably at the bottom of the priority list, but are the 92s likely to see a moquette retrim in this programme, and if so would they keep the standard Barman pattern or perhaps get a red version which is more harmonious with the interior? Incredible to think it's been a decade since Barman was rolled out.
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Post by Chris L on Aug 30, 2021 15:07:06 GMT
I know this is probably at the bottom of the priority list, but are the 92s likely to see a moquette retrim in this programme, and if so would they keep the standard Barman pattern or perhaps get a red version which is more harmonious with the interior? Incredible to think it's been a decade since Barman was rolled out. You have to be careful when changing elements of interiors. There has to be a good contrast between poles and handrails and the seat coverings/rest of the interior. Poles and handrails are powder coated which needs to be removed before applying the new colour (or using an expensive alternative coating on the existing treatment). |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Aug 31, 2021 9:48:41 GMT
With the new PiS, will there be a new person who does the Central line? Maybe Sarah Parnell will completely replace Emma Clarke?
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Post by grumpycat on Sept 3, 2021 8:40:24 GMT
I know this is probably at the bottom of the priority list, but are the 92s likely to see a moquette retrim in this programme, and if so would they keep the standard Barman pattern or perhaps get a red version which is more harmonious with the interior? Incredible to think it's been a decade since Barman was rolled out. Knowing tfl it probably will happen either starting or mid refurb. |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Sept 25, 2021 17:07:45 GMT
Any more updates?
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Post by Chris L on Sept 25, 2021 17:53:25 GMT
I know this is probably at the bottom of the priority list, but are the 92s likely to see a moquette retrim in this programme, and if so would they keep the standard Barman pattern or perhaps get a red version which is more harmonious with the interior? Incredible to think it's been a decade since Barman was rolled out. Knowing tfl it probably will happen either starting or mid refurb. Changing seat colours is not a simple thing. Handrails and poles have to be a contrasting colour to assist the visually handicapped.. |
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Post by jimbo on Sept 25, 2021 19:10:49 GMT
I know this is probably at the bottom of the priority list, but are the 92s likely to see a moquette retrim in this programme, and if so would they keep the standard Barman pattern or perhaps get a red version which is more harmonious with the interior? Incredible to think it's been a decade since Barman was rolled out. I think Barman was intended for the 2012ts for the Picc initially! |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Oct 3, 2021 13:42:15 GMT
Any progress on the first train in the workshop?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 3, 2021 18:34:19 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 3, 2021 19:59:35 GMT
Reported up thread as departing Ruislip 2 August. |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Oct 5, 2021 19:41:14 GMT
Any pics or vids of the refurbishment works on the trains? And how many trains are currently going through the refurbishment process currently?
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Post by noddymac on Oct 6, 2021 18:56:45 GMT
Any pics or vids of the refurbishment works on the trains? And how many trains are currently going through the refurbishment process currently? I haven’t seen any video footage, only some external train shots, nothing that shows any change thus far. |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Oct 24, 2021 17:49:39 GMT
Are any trains undergoing visible changes in Acton Works yet?
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Post by metman on Oct 24, 2021 20:06:50 GMT
Not seen anything myself although it wouldn’t surprise me if the doors appeared with yellow/black chevrons (like the 1996 stock) and a break in the blue skirt just before the door leaves to aid visibility (not saying it might happen, but it might!).
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Nov 3, 2021 21:18:45 GMT
Not seen anything myself although it wouldn’t surprise me if the doors appeared with yellow/black chevrons (like the 1996 stock) and a break in the blue skirt just before the door leaves to aid visibility (not saying it might happen, but it might!). It is likely they will I think |
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Post by aslefshrugged on Nov 4, 2021 10:45:11 GMT
It seems the W&C Line are the first to get wheelchair spaces
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Post by Chris L on Nov 4, 2021 12:56:08 GMT
It seems the W&C Line are the first to get wheelchair spaces One way journeys to Bank with strong helpers who can walk backwards to stop the wheelchair running away on the steep ramps The lift on the arrivals platform at Waterloo is deemed unsuitable for wheelchairs. Signing only shows pushchairs. |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Nov 5, 2021 21:36:07 GMT
I heard that the end of the year would be when the first refurbished train would be completed and in service. It’s getting towards the end of the year now. Still nothing 😂😂
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Post by plasmid on Nov 6, 2021 0:01:44 GMT
It seems the W&C Line are the first to get wheelchair spaces "extra standing space" |
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Post by noddymac on Nov 6, 2021 21:34:26 GMT
Much like everything else, it will be delayed a lot longer no doubt to the point everyone will forget about it until the train suddenly appears in service. 😂
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Post by cobolot5 on Nov 7, 2021 7:32:25 GMT
Does anybody know how different the DTS replacement will be? Will the monitor appear the same with the messages bullet pointed like ATP Available?
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Post by spsmiler on Nov 7, 2021 20:04:40 GMT
Much like everything else, it will be delayed a lot longer no doubt to the point everyone will forget about it until the train suddenly appears in service. 😂 LOL, it might be delayed ... but we won't be forgetting about it! I'm hoping for destination displays that are easier to read |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Nov 8, 2021 9:59:49 GMT
I wonder what the PiS boards will look like.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 8, 2021 10:57:24 GMT
I wonder what the PiS boards will look like. As said up thread they will cover the top (probably quarter) of the existing large window space. |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Nov 8, 2021 19:24:14 GMT
Is the project really going ahead or has the whole thing secretly been scrapped for now?
I hope the first refurbished train will be around soon. I’m looking forward to seeing them about.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 8, 2021 19:44:33 GMT
Is the project really going ahead or has the whole thing secretly been scrapped for now? The project is definitely going ahead, as shown in the posts above detailing the movements just after they happen. With 4x 2-car units at Ruislip, 4x 2-car units at Asfordby Test Track and 4x 2-car units in Acton Works it certainly isn't on hold. |
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Post by coldplayfan18 on Nov 8, 2021 20:04:25 GMT
Okay that’s good. Will there be photos posted of any external or internal changes appearance-wise, such as new doors, or new poles and seats on the inside!
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