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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 25, 2017 14:15:24 GMT
Purdah started on the 22nd, but not sure if this would be covered. Personally I know more people that would be annoyed if the link went ahead than if it doesn't  Are there any local government elections in the area? Yes, Hertfordshire County Council elections on May 4th. The county council is currently Conservative, but with a large LD showing in the Watford and Three Rivers areas. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 14:19:51 GMT
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Post by Antje on Apr 28, 2017 16:53:15 GMT
What is going on now? Is this project going ahead or not? If it isn't or there doubt is too severe, then I am going to have to remove it from the next revision to the London map on UrbanRail.net. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 17:34:42 GMT
Well there is a £50 million shortfall anyone here going to give TfL a loan?
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Post by silenthunter on May 2, 2017 11:03:12 GMT
I think it might be best to wait until after the General Election.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 2, 2017 12:05:35 GMT
Well there is a £50 million shortfall anyone here going to give TfL a loan? What about those nice people who promised money for the Garden Bridge? Now that's not going ahead, do you think they might pledge it to this project instead? (on similar terms - temporary closures to allow corporate junketing, etc) |
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Post by theblackferret on May 2, 2017 20:26:17 GMT
Well there is a £50 million shortfall anyone here going to give TfL a loan? What about those nice people who promised money for the Garden Bridge? Now that's not going ahead, do you think they might pledge it to this project instead? (on similar terms - temporary closures to allow corporate junketing, etc) Now there's a thought-this is Met territory, I believe at least one of the ex-Met Pullman cars still exists, so why not run that one trip each way each day, call the line with Garden Bridge Line & call the Pullman affair the Luvvy's Express? |
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Post by snoggle on May 2, 2017 20:47:56 GMT
I think it might be best to wait until after the General Election. You won't hear anything of substance until then. |
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Post by snoggle on May 2, 2017 20:54:43 GMT
What is going on now? Is this project going ahead or not? If it isn't or there doubt is too severe, then I am going to have to remove it from the next revision to the London map on UrbanRail.net. No one here knows. It will be weeks (election) and possibly months (post election / possible reshuffle aftermath) before any decision is taken one way or the other. |
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Post by Chris M on May 2, 2017 21:21:06 GMT
If the route is within the constituency of the next Transport secretary, it's quite likely that the money will be found. If it isn't, then there are more factors in play than can be predicted currently.
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Post by trt on May 3, 2017 9:29:44 GMT
It's on the borders of South-West Hertfordshire and Watford. South West Hertfordshire is a curiously shaped constituency really. So's Aylesbury County. They're all a bit odd shaped looking at them. It's like someone's taken a crayon and drawn round hot-spots of traditional Tory towns.
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Post by John Tuthill on May 3, 2017 10:22:16 GMT
If the route is within the constituency of the next Transport secretary, it's quite likely that the money will be found. If it isn't, then there are more factors in play than can be predicted currently. Make Diane Abbott Transport Secretary, she'll find money to build it! |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 3, 2017 11:08:51 GMT
I believe at least one of the ex-Met Pullman cars still exists, I don't think they do - both carriages were grounded and used by the military during WW2, but I don't know their ultimate fates. Coincidentally, both names survive in preservation.   |
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Post by trt on May 3, 2017 12:57:17 GMT
If the route is within the constituency of the next Transport secretary, it's quite likely that the money will be found. If it isn't, then there are more factors in play than can be predicted currently. Make Diane Abbott Transport Secretary, she'll find money to build it! Ah, yes. Get her kids to school more easily then. |
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Post by John Tuthill on May 3, 2017 15:07:41 GMT
Make Diane Abbott Transport Secretary, she'll find money to build it! Ah, yes. Get her kids to school more easily then. A labour politician using public transport!!?? I must lie down  |
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Post by trt on May 3, 2017 15:11:37 GMT
Ah, yes. Get her kids to school more easily then. A labour politician using public transport!!?? I must lie down You'll have to. There are no seats for labour politicians on trains. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 3, 2017 16:10:46 GMT
. There are no seats for Labour politicians on trains. Or in Parliament, come June 8th, perhaps? |
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Post by silenthunter on May 3, 2017 16:19:21 GMT
Corbyn has been spotted on buses, but then again he does have a Freedom Pass and lives in Islington.
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Post by spsmiler on May 3, 2017 16:43:18 GMT
Dunno about politicians but wasn't it civil servants who decided that buses and the Midland Main Line service would be "good enough" and that therefore the almost completed rest of the Northern Heights electrification should be abandoned?
Decisions which in more recent times have been found to have been 'very much against the public good'.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 3, 2017 16:49:16 GMT
The main reason for abandoning the Northern Heights project was Green belt legislation, which made extension beyond Edgware pointless and, in turn, negated the need for extra capacity south of Edgware.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 3, 2017 18:02:18 GMT
Can we get back to talking about railways rather than the travelling habits of politicians, please?
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Post by trt on Jun 21, 2017 9:36:28 GMT
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Post by grahamhewett on Jun 21, 2017 16:32:46 GMT
Never before in the history of human endeavour has a project been cancelled so many times.... As remarked in That Other Place, it would be a kindness to kill it off for good
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Post by castlebar on Jun 21, 2017 16:47:57 GMT
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Extra stations, branch lines and extensions were already being planned
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 16:23:33 GMT
There seems to be some work looks like site clearance at the watford south junction where the old ce tip was. anyone know whats happening?
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Post by Ben on Jul 29, 2017 14:30:01 GMT
Yes I saw that the other day, some groundworks too I thought. Possibly drainage or stabilisation, or just exploratory stuff?
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Post by howda62 on Jul 30, 2017 9:10:06 GMT
I noticed this on Friday, and a gang of workers there. I didn't think this would be related to any Met Line Extension work though, seems too far away for that unless related to the substation in some way? I grabbed a couple of shots yesterday morning. They seem to have a storage area next to the track boundary, with what looks like steel reinforcement mesh for concreting. So might be creating a ground base for a new building? Is this on LU land or private land?  IMG_0219a by Howda62, on Flickr  IMG_0219b by Howda62, on Flickr |
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Post by melikepie on Jul 31, 2017 0:43:30 GMT
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Post by trt on Jul 31, 2017 7:38:26 GMT
There are various comments being made about a plan to get a service going resembling the old, dead-end branch line, without the construction of the viaduct which is the single most expensive part of the plan that could conceivably be dropped. Presumably to be run using LO stock instead of the S8. Seems as if there's some sort of planning application gone in for it.
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Post by Ben on Jul 31, 2017 17:56:17 GMT
That doesn't make any sense though; the viaduct *is* the plan! Croxley Rail Link - but without the link? Oh dear!! I wonder if with tighter curves the existing NR bridge over the canal could be used.
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