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Post by superteacher on Apr 10, 2017 19:53:44 GMT
Do we have a rough date for entry into service? Will they wait for the new timetable to come in at the end of May?
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 10, 2017 19:54:55 GMT
I think it's some point in May.
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 10, 2017 20:27:18 GMT
There are line closures at weekends until the end of May.
As well as the extra platform at Shenfield they have been making a lot of adjustments to platform edges to suit the new trains.
It may be then for the first run in service.
It should be train 005 - it has vinyls applied saying this and new silhouette TfL Rail roundels.
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Post by sawb on Apr 10, 2017 20:53:31 GMT
Further closures have also been announced for weekends in July, September and October between Stratford and Liverpool Street, but not entirely sure if this is for crossrail work, or to finally put to bed the saga of the Chelmsford to London renewals that have been going on for nearly a decade and over-run by nearly 5 years
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Post by Dmitri on Apr 10, 2017 21:23:14 GMT
they have been making a lot of adjustments to platform edges to suit the new trains Just out of interest - what is special with new trains that requires platforms' adjustments? |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 10, 2017 21:28:12 GMT
There were signs when I was last out that way saying the gap between platform and train had changed. I suspect that the reason is so that the new trains have step-free level boarding.
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 10, 2017 21:49:06 GMT
they have been making a lot of adjustments to platform edges to suit the new trains Just out of interest - what is special with new trains that requires platforms' adjustments? The new trains are a different shape to the old. Some platforms have been cut back and others have had height adjustments. |
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 12, 2017 11:30:12 GMT
I believe they are also slightly wider.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 23:05:45 GMT
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 20, 2017 10:51:59 GMT
I'm confused at that last post. Please can you explain?
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Post by phoenixcronin on Apr 20, 2017 11:19:45 GMT
I'm confused at that last post. Please can you explain? I took it to mean he was lamenting over the previous design of the 345s, which sadly did not make it to production. |
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Post by westville13 on Apr 20, 2017 15:39:11 GMT
Or is it the Crossrail sign on the front? Maybe not an Elizabeth Line lover?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 20, 2017 18:30:05 GMT
On topic please.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 20:18:06 GMT
How many units are down in London now, and how many are they using for testing?
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Post by spsmiler on Apr 20, 2017 20:38:56 GMT
Lack of yellow front, perhaps.
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 20, 2017 21:36:10 GMT
How many units are down in London now, and how many are they using for testing? At least two (002 and 005) are in Ilford depot. |
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Post by A60stock on Apr 20, 2017 23:07:20 GMT
Once the 345s enter service, does anybody know what the first day of service is and then what the timescale will be until all the 315s are withdrawn?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 0:09:48 GMT
How many units are down in London now, and how many are they using for testing? At least two (002 and 005) are in Ilford depot. I'm pretty sure 002 has returned north as it was kitted-out with testing equipment. With space at a premium, it's unlikely that there will be many more arriving until Shenfield sidings are finished. |
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 21, 2017 3:01:03 GMT
005 has been used for testing recently. Saw 002 at night on lots of occasions but it was fully kitted out for testing.
005 will be the first train in service.
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 21, 2017 11:21:44 GMT
At least two (002 and 005) are in Ilford depot. I'm pretty sure 002 has returned north as it was kitted-out with testing equipment. With space at a premium, it's unlikely that there will be many more arriving until Shenfield sidings are finished. Shenfield sidings? I didn't know there were sidings being built there as well. |
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Post by peterc on Apr 21, 2017 12:55:56 GMT
I think that these are the existing sidings remodelled to link with the revised station layout.
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Post by silenthunter on Apr 21, 2017 13:36:29 GMT
Ah right, thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 20:28:12 GMT
Looks like the external screens won't be LCD after all. Unsure what that 'w' on the right hand side of the display means though (so much frame around the external display too - could've been bigger - not better than the S Stock IMHO). Seems very inconvenient for the external display to be on only 1 area of the carriage. Missed opportunities there.
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Post by uzairjubilee on May 19, 2017 21:09:24 GMT
Yes the external screen looks tiny.
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Post by jimini on May 20, 2017 20:59:40 GMT
I'm not overly au fait with stock in general, but one question springs to mind based on the photo above: how does the max speed of 90mph impact on the existing infrastructure at either end of the new section? I've no idea what the speed limits are on the GEML electric lines and the GWR relief lines (hope I've named them correctly!); just wondered if there's any conflict in maximum speeds there as the lines integrate with each other? Ta.
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Post by stapler on May 21, 2017 7:13:16 GMT
I'm not overly au fait with stock in general, but one question springs to mind based on the photo above: how does the max speed of 90mph impact on the existing infrastructure at either end of the new section? I've no idea what the speed limits are on the GEML electric lines and the GWR relief lines (hope I've named them correctly!); just wondered if there's any conflict in maximum speeds there as the lines integrate with each other? Ta. So far as the GEML is concerned, the 345s replace the 315s, which have a 75mph limit. They will not ordinarily run on the faster of the two pairs of lines (on the north side to Ilford flyover, then on the south), so their impact on faster trains will be nil. In fact the general line speed even on the fast lines is about 90 anyway. I am assuming the better acceleration of the new trains will enable some speeding up of the metro trains; at present , when on a fast train, you seem to pass one metro at Romford and the next by Maryland. Things may be different on the GW, with which I'm less familiar. |
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Post by toby on May 21, 2017 7:49:06 GMT
Where in their final route do you expect them to reach 90mph, forgetting line speeds?
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 21, 2017 8:05:09 GMT
Given the short distances between stations, acceleration is more important than maximum speed - no point in having a high maximum speed if you never have time to reach it... So they will have low gearing for good acceleration.
(An S-stock can do Paddington - RoyalOak start-to-stop faster than an HST can do it start-to-pass)
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Post by Chris M on May 21, 2017 8:16:12 GMT
Assuming the line speed is sufficient, 90 might be possible out towards Reading - particularly if there is any skip-stopping.
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