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Post by fish7373 on Nov 19, 2020 18:04:21 GMT
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Post by t697 on Nov 19, 2020 19:00:47 GMT
I see the Island Line vehicle doesn't have the original traction equipment cases even though this one is a DC electric train. What's this one got to make it go and stop? Or have I missed it further up the thread?
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Post by mb2014 on Nov 19, 2020 19:38:45 GMT
Does anyone know the LT car numbers for 484001 to 484005?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 19, 2020 19:46:14 GMT
I see the Island Line vehicle doesn't have the original traction equipment cases even though this one is a DC electric train. What's this one got to make it go and stop? Or have I missed it further up the thread? yes, has been mentioned upthread - AC motors, no camshaft mechanism. |
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Post by christopher125 on Nov 20, 2020 11:58:42 GMT
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Post by Tom on Nov 20, 2020 14:15:57 GMT
The tripcock on the Class 483 units is located on the trailing bogie - I would expect the same here.
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 20, 2020 14:36:56 GMT
The tripcock is fitted you can see it in photo and is on the leading Truck under the cab door on the shoe beam
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Post by DWS on Nov 20, 2020 14:40:00 GMT
The tripcock on the Class 483 units is located on the trailing bogie - I would expect the same here. Strange for the tripcock to be fitted on the trailing bogie . |
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Post by DWS on Nov 20, 2020 14:42:37 GMT
Any one know what the red panel under the Island Line transfer is for ?
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Post by MoreToJack on Nov 20, 2020 14:50:10 GMT
Any one know what the red panel under the Island Line transfer is for ? Emergency outside door opening device, to use the current in vogue LUL term. Butterfly cock would probably be more accessible to most. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 20, 2020 15:25:43 GMT
The tripcock is fitted you can see it in photo and is on the leading Truck under the cab door on the shoe beam As fish7373 says, tripcock valve is fitted on shoebeam, reset cord can be seen, tripcock arm isn't visible in photos, probably latched back to prevent damage in transit:  |
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Post by christopher125 on Nov 20, 2020 16:00:47 GMT
Very helpful, thanks! Hopefully that means some daylight running in the coming weeks, the normal service will be going down to hourly presumably to make way.
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Post by fish7373 on Nov 21, 2020 3:25:58 GMT
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Post by revupminster on Nov 21, 2020 7:21:10 GMT
The cocks on a train. In less PC times staff, who were not drivers or guards learning the mysteries of the the triple valve, were told the train was not operating normally because "when the cock is up it is in, when it is down it is out".
If the the trip cock had been cut out you should expect to see two people in the cab; driver and observer who could be the guard or a station staff member (including a booking clerk who did not have any uniform in those days).
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 21, 2020 9:47:59 GMT
The platform height still to be sorted? |
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Post by philthetube on Nov 21, 2020 13:42:00 GMT
The cocks on a train. In less PC times staff, who were not drivers or guards learning the mysteries of the the triple valve, were told the train was not operating normally because "when the cock is up it is in, when it is down it is out". If the the trip cock had been cut out you should expect to see two people in the cab; driver and observer who could be the guard or a station staff member (including a booking clerk who did not have any uniform in those days). Indeed, though that did not really apply to tripcocks as they are normally down, although the trip cock isolating cock, which was normally on the front of the train conforms. These are large and yellow on conventional stock, to be visible from the platform. Totally off topic, but some of the mnemonics we were taught were far worse than that. Deff not suitable for this forum. |
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Post by christopher125 on Nov 21, 2020 14:25:19 GMT
The platform height still to be sorted? Should all get done in the Jan-March blockade. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 21, 2020 15:00:21 GMT
The car numbers appear to be 131 and 231. (the 483's car numbers are 12x and 22x) Are these complete, or truncated versions of the now-standard NR six-digit format? ands
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Post by John Tuthill on Nov 21, 2020 15:07:09 GMT
The platform height still to be sorted? Should all get done in the Jan-March blockade. Thanks for that. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 21, 2020 16:19:02 GMT
The platform height still to be sorted? Only natural to be careful through platforms on the first move. Same happened when the first S stock were delivered: |
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Post by Chris L on Nov 21, 2020 17:12:53 GMT
Does the run to the depot mean that it got through the infamous tunnel?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 21, 2020 17:36:54 GMT
Does the run to the depot mean that it got through the infamous tunnel? No, Sandown to St. John’s Road depot is not via a tunnel. The tunnel is between St. John’s Road and Esplanade |
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Post by d7666 on Nov 29, 2020 18:07:31 GMT
IOW 484s : Not sure if this has been mentioned in this esteemed forum, but according to msgs on WNXX (and duly acknowledged), 484s don't have GSMR but use a commercial shipping radio system, apparently the device to the left of the handset in this image : www.facebook.com/RichardsonRail/photos/pcb.704191466870663/704190566870753/That's probably a very sensible cost saving move, comms does not have to be GSMR providing it is secure, GSMR is simply the general standard. I've been trying to find out if this marine system uses TETRA - as LU Connect Radio is TETRA - just wondering if some/all Connect kit was left on D78 and re-used (but possibly updated and/or relocated ?). |
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Post by bruce on Dec 2, 2020 10:09:47 GMT
IOW 484s : Not sure if this has been mentioned in this esteemed forum, but according to msgs on WNXX (and duly acknowledged), 484s don't have GSMR but use a commercial shipping radio system, apparently the device to the left of the handset in this image : www.facebook.com/RichardsonRail/photos/pcb.704191466870663/704190566870753/That's probably a very sensible cost saving move, comms does not have to be GSMR providing it is secure, GSMR is simply the general standard. I've been trying to find out if this marine system uses TETRA - as LU Connect Radio is TETRA - just wondering if some/all Connect kit was left on D78 and re-used (but possibly updated and/or relocated ?). WNXX ??
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Post by Chris M on Dec 2, 2020 11:07:06 GMT
WNXX refers to a forum of that name
GSMR (more commonly GSM-R) - the mobile telecommunications standard used by the railways. It fully Global System for Mobile Communications – Railway but the GSM part is very rarely expanded.
TETRA - the secure radio communications standard/network used by the emergency services "Airwave" system and London Underground's "Connect" system. Wikipedia tells me it's Terrestrial Trunked Radio but I've never heard it as anything other than TETRA.
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Post by d7666 on Dec 2, 2020 16:09:14 GMT
At least we didn’t have to explain the abbreviation D78.   |
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Post by bruce on Dec 2, 2020 17:26:23 GMT
WNXX refers to a forum of that name GSMR (more commonly GSM-R) - the mobile telecommunications standard used by the railways. It fully Global System for Mobile Communications – Railway but the GSM part is very rarely expanded. TETRA - the secure radio communications standard/network used by the emergency services "Airwave" system and London Underground's "Connect" system. Wikipedia tells me it's Terrestrial Trunked Radio but I've never heard it as anything other than TETRA. Thank you Chris |
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Post by Chris L on Dec 7, 2020 8:29:16 GMT
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 7, 2020 8:37:09 GMT
Chris, thanks for the download, well worth the read. |
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Post by cudsn15 on Dec 8, 2020 22:45:18 GMT
484-001 on test manoeuvres on IOW...
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