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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Nov 7, 2013 8:00:10 GMT
I mentioned this once before years ago but never got an answer so I thought I'd bring it up again now in case anybody who's joined subsequently can help me with this.
Having lived near Roding Valley for most of my life up till 1987 I was familiar with most of the trains used on the Woodford to Hainault shuttle service and travelled on all of them regularly.
These were, variously:
60ts DM's with 2 x standard stock trailers sandwiched between 67ts (4 car) aluminium finish 60ts DM's with 1 x 38s trailer between
However, for a period of what was only a few weeks, a mate of mine and myself occasionally got on what I believe to be a 3-car 73ts operating the line. This train had engineering equipment in the DM's so only the rear half of each car was useable by passengers. The central trailer was configured normally. The train was in standard aluminium finish with half red fronts but did have proper Central Line maps - the old ones where the Hainault loop looked like a frying pan with the lid on.
The description above is what leads me to believe that it was 73ts. Before anyone says so it was definitely not a 60 (in any configuration), 67 or 62. This would have been around 1976 - sorry I can't be more specific. I'd been on some of the first 73ts to the airport so was familiar with the differences between them and the 67s and 72s.
Can anybody else shed some light on this train?
Many thanks
Rich
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slugabed
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Post by slugabed on Nov 7, 2013 8:16:28 GMT
Might these be the units (892 and 894) which were experimentally fitted with Thyristor ("Chopper") control,Westinghouse and GBC respectively? Information from my 1978 edition of Brian Hardy's "Hardy Annual"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 8:41:06 GMT
Yes, the ETT (Experimental Tube Train), units 892 and 894, although only 892 ever carried passengers, albeit for just a short while.
892 went to Hainault 27/2/79, ex-Hainault 23/6/85. First carried passengers 25/7/83 (and spasmodically at that!).
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Nov 7, 2013 12:36:51 GMT
Yes, the ETT (Experimental Tube Train), units 892 and 894, although only 892 ever carried passengers, albeit for just a short while. 892 went to Hainault 27/2/79, ex-Hainault 23/6/85. First carried passengers 25/7/83 (and spasmodically at that!). Cheers Slug and Reg! Got my dates wrong but that's old age I guess! Any one got any pictures of this train? Also, was it delivered by road to Hainault as I was wondering how it negotiated the tunnels around Bank. Ta. Rich
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Post by Chris W on Nov 7, 2013 12:44:04 GMT
They may have been dragged using electric locos according to this old thread from December 2008: LINKYEDIT - just searching you asked a question about the 60ts trains soon after joining in your previous guise in 2007 LINKY TO THATEDIT 2 - I've also found another thread from Auguest 2005 with more info re the use of 73ts units on the Hainault Loop... although thats more about ATO which was not tested using the 73ts (bottom f the thread) THIRD LINKY
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Post by Ben on Nov 7, 2013 13:52:24 GMT
Some vintage threads there, thanks for brushing the dust off.
Well then, it seems as though the controversy over high-lift shoe gear was never fully resolved...
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Nov 7, 2013 17:09:17 GMT
I was thinking more about the extra length of the 73ts cars in the winding tunnels being a problem as opposed to the shoe gear but then again, some of the Piccadilly line tunneling is pretty convoluted itself so maybe they had no problem getting to the East End and out into the countryside! Thanks again for all the answers! Rich
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Post by towerman on Nov 8, 2013 15:36:14 GMT
They were towed from Ruislip to Hainault by specially adapted 72TS unit 3203 ex HO at Acton Works.BTW this unit(3203)was one of the firstMk1 72TS units to be coverted to OPO for the Bakerloo Line.
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