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Post by towerman on Oct 4, 2013 14:25:47 GMT
Will 7008 be one of the first to go as the refurb was non standard compared to the rest of the fleet?The same thing was done with the 38/49TS as all the trains with standard trailers or UNDMs went first.
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Post by domh245 on Oct 4, 2013 15:36:29 GMT
I suspect that when that sad time comes, one train will be picked, and it won't be to do with non-standard finishes. It will more likely to be a train which has had a very poor maintenance record of late, or one which has had an incident (as happened with the C stock). If there is a train which is performing well but has a different finish, why should it be scrapped if there is a train which can barely do 1 trip without some fault coming up?
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Post by metman on Oct 4, 2013 16:12:15 GMT
Yes that is usually the criteria for scrapping. The A stock is an example too. 5173 was always going first due to the collision and bogie failure.
The other criteria is when the next overhaul is due. I would expect the D stock have/are having their last major overhaul?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 10:43:55 GMT
Hope there is no D78 stock scrap yet lads waiting for the old c stock trains to go first lads? Why would U say 7008 is going first or is that one of the first to go
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 15:15:55 GMT
On the D Stock Withdrawals List thread it mentions Northwood as one of the locations where the stock will go before being taken away for scrap. I've never seen D stock operating on the Met Line and I've been around longer then they have. Is Northwood actually going to be one of the locations?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 23, 2014 15:55:58 GMT
On the D Stock Withdrawals List thread it mentions Northwood as one of the locations where the stock will go before being taken away for scrap. I've never seen D stock operating on the Met Line and I've been around longer then they have. Is Northwood actually going to be one of the locations? As yet this is unclear. C Stock removals were tried at various locations, Acton, Ealing Common etc. before settling upon Northwood, the same maybe true for D Stock but is still a few months away yet. D Stock have certainly run to Amersham, Uxbridge, Ruislip, Rayners Lane over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 17:35:06 GMT
On the D Stock Withdrawals List thread it mentions Northwood as one of the locations where the stock will go before being taken away for scrap. I've never seen D stock operating on the Met Line and I've been around longer then they have. Is Northwood actually going to be one of the locations? As yet this is unclear. C Stock removals were tried at various locations, Acton, Ealing Common etc. before settling upon Northwood, the same maybe true for D Stock but is still a few months away yet. D Stock have certainly run to Amersham, Uxbridge, Ruislip, Rayners Lane over the years. I'll love to see some photos. Out of the numerous Underground related books I have I don't recall seeing one. Although I have some memory of a mention of D stock coming up the Piccadilly line to Ruislip.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 18:42:48 GMT
There is a link now at Barking to the Goblin line and then to the network. Could this be used?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 18:47:41 GMT
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Post by motorman on Jan 23, 2014 19:56:23 GMT
There was a rail tour covering most of the Met Line in the early days of D Stock if I recall correctly. I even think I travelled on it. Must have photos somewhere!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 21:06:25 GMT
Thanks for the photo, Rayners Lane is my home station.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 23, 2014 22:03:48 GMT
How were the D stocks delivered in the first place?
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 23, 2014 22:08:40 GMT
How were the D stocks delivered in the first place? Like all new stock built by Metro-Cammell, BR delivered it to West Ruislip depot.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 23, 2014 22:10:38 GMT
There is a link now at Barking to the Goblin line and then to the network. Could this be used? Yes it could be, as engineers trains use this access. Although all A & C Stock disposals have been by road. Early suggestions were for District S7 to be delivered directly to Upminster via this route.
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Post by causton on Jan 23, 2014 23:56:48 GMT
Perhaps all D stock could do a 'lap of honour' before being scrapped, Wimbledon - Earls Court - Victoria - Aldgate - Baker Street - Finchley Road - Harrow, then run up to Moor Park and back to be put on the low loaders! Anyone want to put that forward as an LU 151 celebration?
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Post by DWS on Jan 24, 2014 0:02:26 GMT
Perhaps all D stock could do a 'lap of honour' before being scrapped, Wimbledon - Earls Court - Victoria - Aldgate - Baker Street - Finchley Road - Harrow, then run up to Moor Park and back to be put on the low loaders! Anyone want to put that forward as an LU 151 celebration? D stocks have been on low loaders from Upminster and Ealing Common depots before, that's when they got a refurb, why send them to a Met siding
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Post by causton on Jan 24, 2014 0:27:10 GMT
Sell tickets for a fiver a trip, job's a good'un! Or just, you know, keep it interesting for us. There has to be something going on to keep us guys occupied
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 24, 2014 9:15:14 GMT
Anyone want to put that forward as an LU 151 celebration? 150 years of the District?
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Post by towerman on Jan 24, 2014 14:06:30 GMT
The reason I asked about 7008 was that London Buses used that criteria when scrapping the Routemasters.All buses with Seimens electrics or Leyland engines went first.
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Post by Chris W on Jan 24, 2014 21:49:56 GMT
Based upon the withdrawal of both A and D stocks, I expect that units condemned will be based upon condition and/or what breaks first/worst...
To me given that 17007 is non standard internally won't necessarily mean it'll go first... unless something breaks and a non-standard part cannot be sourced...
Open question to all... besides internal furniture, are any working internal parts on the trailer non-standard??!
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Post by domh245 on Jan 24, 2014 22:01:10 GMT
To me given that 17007 is non standard internally won't necessarily mean it'll go first... I was under the impression that 17007 was fairly normal... But with 17008, I don't think there is much "unique" that would be liable to break, apart from the poles and glass screens, everything else seems fairly standard.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 24, 2014 22:06:43 GMT
The reason I asked about 7008 was that London Buses used that criteria when scrapping the Routemasters.All buses with Seimens electrics or Leyland engines went first. A rather different situation: they were, at least at first, trying to keep a usable fleet going as long as possible; it therefore made sense to keep one subfleet and phase out the other, rather than reduce both at once and end up with two smaller fleets, both of which would need spare parts stores etc. But if the whole fleet is on its way out, in the absence of a unit that has a fault, it's the luck of the draw which gets picked;it could simply be which one happens to be nearest the door when its time to pick the next one to go.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 24, 2014 22:16:02 GMT
But with 17008, I don't think there is much "unique" that would be liable to break, apart from the poles and glass screens, everything else seems fairly standard. Even the light tubes are a different size!
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Post by Chris W on Jan 24, 2014 22:32:10 GMT
I was under the impression that 17007 was fairly normal Doh!!!! Yes I meant 17008...
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Post by bicbasher on Jan 24, 2014 23:20:35 GMT
I also remember D stock on the ELL in three car formations.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 19:44:47 GMT
But with 17008, I don't think there is much "unique" that would be liable to break, apart from the poles and glass screens, everything else seems fairly standard. Even the light tubes are a different size! even the seat covers are different to standard D stock. There is a box in Ealing Common Depot stores full up with replacement 17008 replacement seat covers.
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Post by malcolmffc on Feb 11, 2014 6:48:44 GMT
Will we see D stock going out to Northwood when they are scrapped?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Feb 11, 2014 15:34:37 GMT
Will we see D stock going out to Northwood when they are scrapped? I thought they'd go from Acton.
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Post by a60 on Feb 11, 2014 18:57:56 GMT
Yet saying this, we were all expecting the C Stock to go from Acton, yet AFAIK 5701, 6701, 5595, 6595 were the only the ones go from there. We'll have to wait 'n' see.
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Post by ruislip on Feb 13, 2014 18:45:12 GMT
I wonder if it reversed there, Ruislip siding, or Uxbridge?
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