5034

Thank you for the info Underground Driver. Presumably it will still make the trip to Northwood on Monday and be transported direct from there to the LTM at Acton?

What are peoples views as to whether it should be re-numbered back to its original number?

Both 5234/5110 are to be kept running to passenger standards. However its up to the LTM to pick one unit after the RAT work ends.

With the LTM who knows...

So to clarify it ultimately looks that in addition to 5034 an operational preserved unit will also survive when replaced on RAT dutues presumable by D Stock

If not - I shall be deeply unhappy!

Any news or picutres of 5034 in its new home? From another thread we know it has arrived safely. I hope it was uncoupled and not gas-axed from the set.

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This link works!

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Why would 5034 reach Acton by road, rather than by rail? I was under the impression that A-Stock would have been able to run there outside of traffic hours...

Shoreditch, love it!

On a lorry! It's easier to take it by road. Considering the rest are going by road one more didn't hurt.

I'm only a layman, but I don't think it's that simple: if it's unbraked (as it would be with no compressor) it would have to be a special move and in particular would have to be topped and tailed by something - and what is there which can couple to the non-driving end of an A stock DM, apart from another A stock car?

So you would need the special working to have at least 2 DMs - in which case it would be much easier to send an entire 4-car set - especially as to do anything else would involve much shunting at Northwood. But now you've got three surplus cars ar Acton to take away by road - not impossible - if they can drive one in they can drive three out, and the M4 is just round the corner, but why bother?

I think it's about continuity. The last vehicle needs to have a couple of braked axles, just incase it falls off. Especially as there's no Guard these days to wind the hand-brake on.

Exactly so - this is what can happen if there is an unbraked vehicle at the end of the train.

Topping and tailing also allows the train to be reversed - necessary on the journey from either Neasden or Northwood to Acton, as (according to CULG) the only possible route over which A stock is not barred is via Baker Sreet (reverse) and Earls Court

"[other than the Richmond and Wimbledon branches] the rest of the District Line is open to all stock except A stock, which may only operate when empty, and only on certain sections:
- Upminster to Aldgate East (and thence Liverpool Street)
- Mansion House to Embankment (single 4-car units only)
- Embankment to Hangar Lane Junction
- Gloucester Road to Earl's Court via High Street Kensington (reversing)
- High Street Kensington to Edgware Road (single 4-car units only) "

The coupling issue is valid to. The 'D' end of the motor car only has a 'cut' bar coupler. Nothing can couple to this at all with out the end being modified.