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Post by domh245 on May 7, 2014 17:44:44 GMT
They may be around for a bit longer because there are problems with the S7s on that part of the line. What problems are these? |
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Post by rincew1nd on May 7, 2014 18:22:15 GMT
As the service level increases I'm sure lots of niggles will become apparent; their introduction on the Metropolitan was not without hiccups. There was an S7 running on the branch yesterday (according to info posted here) so maybe it's just the way the maintenance regime has fallen?
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Post by domh245 on May 7, 2014 18:50:44 GMT
I saw one S7 running in service this morning, but truth be told, I'm quite enjoying this C stock resurgence, for the mornings at least, not as much in the evenings when I have to try and throw myself onto a packed C Stock!
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Post by rincew1nd on May 7, 2014 20:28:21 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 8, 2014 9:51:24 GMT
07/05/14
70 5516+5551+5712
71 21341
72 5522+5555+5549
73 5529+5524+5545
74 5594+5550+5733
75 5720+5552+5726
76 (7100+7125 running as '176' to HSt)
77 5721+5531+5578
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Post by crusty54 on May 8, 2014 18:48:38 GMT
Train shown 77 above was in service at Ealing Broadway tonight at 17:40
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 19:26:36 GMT
Train shown 77 above was in service at Ealing Broadway tonight at 17:40 And train 71 as well went to Ealing Broadway. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 5:47:20 GMT
As the service level increases I'm sure lots of niggles will become apparent; their introduction on the Metropolitan was not without hiccups. There was an S7 running on the branch yesterday (according to info posted here) so maybe it's just the way the maintenance regime has fallen? Observed yesterday May 8 between 1730 and 2030 all Edgware Rd Districts were C Stock running at 10 min intervals and they all terminated at Putney Bridge. Sorry exact unit nos not noted. Announcements to passengers referred to 'track problems in the East Putney area'. A couple of D stock workings Wimbledon-High Street Kensington also noted. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 6:38:20 GMT
Current plan Friday am 9/5 is ERD to RICHMOND all C stock
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Post by rincew1nd on May 9, 2014 7:09:38 GMT
Observed yesterday May 8 between 1730 and 2030 all Edgware Rd Districts were C Stock running at 10 min intervals and they all terminated at Putney Bridge.  Sorry exact unit nos not noted. Announcements to passengers referred to 'track problems in the East Putney area'. A couple of D stock workings Wimbledon-High Street Kensington also noted. So no Wimbleware service then! |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 11:09:37 GMT
Its a very touchy subject the Wimbledon road at the moment sorry cant say more then that.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 9, 2014 12:56:39 GMT
Current plan Friday am 9/5 is ERD to RICHMOND all C stock Can you enlarge on this? There are usually no services at all between Edgware Road and Richmond - at least not on weekdays -so to say they are all run by C stock is a bit ambiguous - 100% of nothing at all is still zero. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 9, 2014 14:45:31 GMT
Current plan Friday am 9/5 is ERD to RICHMOND all C stock Can you enlarge on this? There are usually no services at all between Edgware Road and Richmond - at least not on weekdays -so to say they are all run by C stock is a bit ambiguous - 100% of nothing at all is still zero. was trying to say that all scheduled Edgware Rd-Wimbledon trains would be diverted to Richmond this morning due to the restrictions placed on C & S7 Stock operating to Wimbledon (which have subsequently been lifted). |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 15:26:16 GMT
Is the service back to normal (4S stock and 4C stock)?
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Post by domh245 on May 9, 2014 18:52:40 GMT
It certainly seems to be that way at the moment, with 21364/63 on train 75 at the moment
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Post by MoreToJack on May 9, 2014 19:14:49 GMT
Spotted two S stocks out today on the Wimbledon branch - there could have been more although I didn't hang around today. Interestingly all the Edgware Road/Wimbledons seemed very out of sequence - sometimes it was clockwork ten minute intervals, other times two would come one after another.
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Post by Hassaan on May 9, 2014 23:49:27 GMT
I remember once in September 2012 there were issues with C Stock gauging on the Wimbledon line which saw C Stocks to Richmond and Ealing Broadway for the rest of the day, was most surprised to see the between Barons Court and Acton Town!
Don't think the current issues have affected the South West Trains services that use the line?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 10, 2014 5:48:12 GMT
10/05/14 (15min service)
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73 21377/78
74 5720+5552+5726
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Post by kateyay on May 11, 2014 20:12:54 GMT
Hi all (not all of us are lads!) Here are the formations for C Stocks today - Sunday 11th May 5549-5555-5522 (at PG 29rd) 5578-5531-5721 T73 5727-5560-5596 T74 5726-5552-5720 T76 Also a quick picture from 8th May when a C stock ended up at Ealing on T077...  C Stock at Ealing Broadway - 08/05/14 by Kate E H, on Flickr |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 22:40:07 GMT
Observed yesterday May 8 between 1730 and 2030 all Edgware Rd Districts were C Stock running at 10 min intervals and they all terminated at Putney Bridge. Sorry exact unit nos not noted. Announcements to passengers referred to 'track problems in the East Putney area'. A couple of D stock workings Wimbledon-High Street Kensington also noted. So no Wimbleware service then! |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 23:01:03 GMT
Observed yesterday May 8 between 1730 and 2030 all Edgware Rd Districts were C Stock running at 10 min intervals and they all terminated at Putney Bridge. Sorry exact unit nos not noted. Announcements to passengers referred to 'track problems in the East Putney area'. A couple of D stock workings Wimbledon-High Street Kensington also noted. So no Wimbleware service then! Today Wednesday May 14th the full Wimbleware service pattern of 4 x S and 4 x C stock was observed on and off over a 6 hour period from 1200. After observing the unusual temporary termination of all Edgware Rd trains at Putney Bridge last Thursday evening May 8th, I looked at the bay platform again today and realised that it's very short, only just long enough for a C stock train. You certainly couldn't get an S train in there, nor even a D, as it would seem either one would foul the points to switch on to the eastbound track. The end of the C stock may therefore mean the end of any chance the Putney Bridge bay could be used for passenger short workings. May 8th could have been the last time. The very ancient looking single hydraulic buffer stop appears to have undergone to attempt at renewal or modernisation. The Putney bridge destination on the Earls Court destination indicator will presumably therefore soon be blanked off. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 14, 2014 23:12:20 GMT
I looked at the bay platform again today and realised that it's very short, only just long enough for a C stock train. You certainly couldn't get an S train in there, nor even a D, as it would seem either one would foul the points to switch on to the eastbound track. The end of the C stock may therefore mean the end of any chance the Putney Bridge bay could be used for passenger short workings. May 8th could have been the last time. The very ancient looking single hydraulic buffer stop appears to have undergone to attempt at renewal or modernisation. The Putney bridge destination on the Earls Court destination indicator will presumably therefore soon be blanked off. After the new timetable is introduced on Sunday there will be no scheduled trains using Putney Bridge bay platform, however thats not to say a C may use it until they go! D Stock and S Stock can still reverse at Putney Bridge, by using the WB platform and crossover west of the station. Indeed if you wake up early enough on a normal Sunday, you can witness an empty D Stock doing this move, around 0650. Under the original resignalling contract, (new contract should be announced in June), Putney Bridge bay was due to become the WB platform and the buffer stops obviously removed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 23:16:08 GMT
So no Wimbleware service then! Today Wednesday May 14th the full Wimbleware service pattern of 4 x S and 4 x C stock was observed on and off over a 6 hour period from 1200. After observing the unusual temporary termination of all Edgware Rd trains at Putney Bridge last Thursday evening May 8th, I looked at the bay platform again today and realised that it's very short, only just long enough for a C stock train. You certainly couldn't get an S train in there, nor even a D, as it would seem either one would foul the points to switch on to the eastbound track. The end of the C stock may therefore mean the end of any chance the Putney Bridge bay could be used for passenger short workings. May 8th could have been the last time. The very ancient looking single hydraulic buffer stop appears to have undergone to attempt at renewal or modernisation. The Putney bridge destination on the Earls Court destination indicator will presumably therefore soon be blanked off. D's definitely can't use the bay, there's a nice little article about Putney Bridge on Dave's main site. Putney Bridge can still be used for reversing as Dstock7080 has said (beat me to it!  ) |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 11:23:54 GMT
Today Wednesday May 14th the full Wimbleware service pattern of 4 x S and 4 x C stock was observed on and off over a 6 hour period from 1200. After observing the unusual temporary termination of all Edgware Rd trains at Putney Bridge last Thursday evening May 8th, I looked at the bay platform again today and realised that it's very short, only just long enough for a C stock train. You certainly couldn't get an S train in there, nor even a D, as it would seem either one would foul the points to switch on to the eastbound track. The end of the C stock may therefore mean the end of any chance the Putney Bridge bay could be used for passenger short workings. May 8th could have been the last time. The very ancient looking single hydraulic buffer stop appears to have undergone to attempt at renewal or modernisation. The Putney bridge destination on the Earls Court destination indicator will presumably therefore soon be blanked off. D's definitely can't use the bay, there's a nice little article about Putney Bridge on Dave's main site. Putney Bridge can still be used for reversing as Dstock7080 has said (beat me to it! ) |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 11:35:51 GMT
Re: Putney Bridge. Thanks for info on reversing trains actually on the bridge, rather than in the bay. But surely shortworking a train by this means would cause more congestion than it would solve in the middle of a busy traffic period, unless a second driver boarded the rear cab earlier. Perhaps converting Platform One at Putney Bridge station to a bay will just about allow an S stock to be shoehorned into it. It will be interesting to see how it is remodelled. By the way, being a new member and not conversant with how the site works, I could not find the Putney Bridge article by District Dave referred to. Can you help?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 12:10:59 GMT
Re: Putney Bridge. Thanks for info on reversing trains actually on the bridge, rather than in the bay. But surely shortworking a train by this means would cause more congestion than it would solve in the middle of a busy traffic period, unless a second driver boarded the rear cab earlier. Perhaps converting Platform One at Putney Bridge station to a bay will just about allow an S stock to be shoehorned into it. It will be interesting to see how it is remodelled. By the way, being a new member and not conversant with how the site works, I could not find the Putney Bridge article by District Dave referred to. Can you help? You should just be able to click on "nice little article", which should let you follow the link. If not, I reproduce it here: www.districtdave.co.uk/html/putney_bridge.htmlYou should either be able to follow that link, or copy and paste it into the URL bar. Reversing west to east at Putney Bridge via what I believe is called a "mainline shunt" would be involved, you're right. Looking at the signalling diagram, there also doesn't appear to be a wrong road starter for east to west reversing (not that that would be needed very often.) All the same, it's useful for engineering work when "stepping back" would be employed. |
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Post by domh245 on May 15, 2014 15:55:15 GMT
There is also an opportunity for mainline shunts at Wimbledon Park, at the south end of the station, but I think it is not used that often
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 16:03:14 GMT
There is also an opportunity for mainline shunts at Wimbledon Park, at the south end of the station, but I think it is not used that often And East Putney, no? Although that said I don't actually know if there's a shunt signal there? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 16:12:01 GMT
There's a crossover just west of the junction with the main line at East Putney, controlled by a ground frame. I guess it would have to be really serious for it to be used.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 16:25:51 GMT
There's a crossover just west of the junction with the main line at East Putney, controlled by a ground frame. I guess it would have to be really serious for it to be used. I see  Thanks. Is the crossover at Wimbledon Park controlled remotely? Come to think of it, how is the Wimbledon branch signalled is it an IECC or something else? |
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Thanks. Is the crossover at Wimbledon Park controlled remotely? Come to think of it, how is the Wimbledon branch signalled is it an IECC or something else?
